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From my perspective, a PS3 with no backwards compatibility is worth that much less (the cost of a new PS2) because I need both. And since my 2nd PS2 is becoming restless, it's an easy-but-frustrating choice to just get a 3rd PS2 now (2 years life per console? That's pathetic to me, but at least it's affordable).

I'll never pay more than $150 for a new PS3 with no backwards compatibility, even if it means I never get one. :p $250 with backwards compatibility would be fine though, I don't mind waiting a few years, considering I waited 3 years for the PS2 to drop in price. :) (I have an *extremely* tight budget, either I get hardware or games, not both)



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^ Well you are definetly in the minority, as sales have only increased since this has came out, especially in EU where it is the only option.



Diomedes1976 said:
Well ,it seems the 80Gb isnt released after all in Japan .I thought I remembered one of the DMC4 PS3 bundle coming with a 80Gb unit .

In any case the 80Gb is being released in Australia (and probably in the rest of the PAL area ) so we cant write off the possibility of the release in Japan .

The better would be though the BC by software .Looking as the PS2 was way less powerful than the Xbox and that the PS3 is somewhat more powerful than the 360 and specially that the 360 emulates the Xbox through sofware I think it comes into the plausible possibilities .

No man. No 80GB for EU until SCEE confirm it. You can't take anything said by EB/Gamestop employees seriously.



kitler53 said:
A) Sony to Japan "OMG, we're discontinuing the 20g and 60g models. BUY NOW YOU MUST BUY NOW or you'll never get the ps3 we know you want and you'll regret it forever"...4 months later..."OMG, we have a new model YOU MUST BUY NOW" just like they did to the 60g in NA only to introduce the 80g.

B) This is a way to decrease in overall production of the ps3 without drawing attention to it.

That's exactly what happened in Europe.

And a further point, why bundle in a cheap PS2 with the PS3 when you can keep making money on healthy PS2 sales? It's obvious that the PS2 is far more profitable right now, so why cannibalize those sales?



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DMeisterJ said:
^ Well you are definetly in the minority, as sales have only increased since this has came out, especially in EU where it is the only option.

 It might be good for sales, but it's not necessarily good for the consumer.  Also sales aren't really going to do drop with a cheaper sku available right before Christmas.  



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The difference with this is that they are leaving only one model as an option, which isn't in and of itself a bad thing.

But stripping out BC might upset some people over in the land of the rising sun.



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Lingyis said:
this is important why? give me your reasons JL.

It was just a news story I saw last night before I was going to sleep.

I came here to see if anybody was talking about it and when I didn't see a topic I added it.

Discontinuing a model is somewhat big news, don't you think?

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 I think it's only natural to discontinue the lower spec'ed models as the price of manufacturing the higher spec'ed ones plummets. Everyone's gain, really.



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I think this means once they are gone sony is going to do 1 of 2 things.

A) get rid of the 80g model all together and return to a one sku version. Maybe with optional HDD's you can buy separately.
B) add the 80g model to everywhere else once the factories that were building the other versions have been converted over.

I think B sounds more likely.

question: Does MS have more than one version available in Japan?



Mummelmann said:
johnlucas said:
Lingyis said:
this is important why? give me your reasons JL.

It was just a news story I saw last night before I was going to sleep.

I came here to see if anybody was talking about it and when I didn't see a topic I added it.

Discontinuing a model is somewhat big news, don't you think?

John Lucas


I think it's only natural to discontinue the lower spec'ed models as the price of manufacturing the higher spec'ed ones plummets. Everyone's gain, really.


But that's not what they did, is it?

 



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This is worrying news. I'm not sure it's a sign of things to come in NA though, because Japan is a very unique region. The 60gb/20gb models there were still using full hardware backwards compatibility, making them quite a bit more expensive to produce. The 80gb, on the other hand, costs almost the same as the 40gb (the EE chip is $30 at most) but sells for $100 more. So it actually probably has the highest profit margin of any PS3 model, and it would only lose Sony money to drop it. (There's also the 65nm chipset in the 40gb to consider, but any new 80gb models made from now on will use the same process).

I hope this is only the first step towards introducing the 80gb model to Japan, and not the start of a global discontinuation of backwards compatible models everywhere. That would piss me off to no end.

By the way, is the 40gb really the only model available in Europe now? I know they claimed that was their plan, but can you really not find a 60gb anymore?