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Chrizum said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Castle crashers is considered a platformer?

Limbo? Just no.

Even Braid is a stretch.

They're platformers whether you like it or not ...

You can't jump in Castle Crashers. There are no platforms in Castle Crashers. It isn't a platformer.

Braid has platforming elements but it's mostly a puzzle game.

Limbo is what I would call a platformer.

If Limbo is a platformer then so is Lemmings.



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Pyro as Bill said:
Chrizum said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Castle crashers is considered a platformer?

Limbo? Just no.

Even Braid is a stretch.

They're platformers whether you like it or not ...

You can't jump in Castle Crashers. There are no platforms in Castle Crashers. It isn't a platformer.

Braid has platforming elements but it's mostly a puzzle game.

Limbo is what I would call a platformer.

If Limbo is a platformer then so is Lemmings.

Ridiculous statement, those games are nothing alike.



Chrizum said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Chrizum said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Castle crashers is considered a platformer?

Limbo? Just no.

Even Braid is a stretch.

They're platformers whether you like it or not ...

You can't jump in Castle Crashers. There are no platforms in Castle Crashers. It isn't a platformer.

Braid has platforming elements but it's mostly a puzzle game.

Limbo is what I would call a platformer.

If Limbo is a platformer then so is Lemmings.

Ridiculous statement, those games are nothing alike.


They have far more in common than Mario/Limbo or Sonic/Limbo.

Die until you work out how to solve the puzzle, very little platforming skill required, it's Lemmings but you only have one lemming.

Lemingbo.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Pyro as Bill said:
Chrizum said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Chrizum said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Castle crashers is considered a platformer?

Limbo? Just no.

Even Braid is a stretch.

They're platformers whether you like it or not ...

You can't jump in Castle Crashers. There are no platforms in Castle Crashers. It isn't a platformer.

Braid has platforming elements but it's mostly a puzzle game.

Limbo is what I would call a platformer.

If Limbo is a platformer then so is Lemmings.

Ridiculous statement, those games are nothing alike.


They have far more in common than Mario/Limbo or Sonic/Limbo.

Die until you work out how to solve the puzzle, very little platforming skill required, it's Lemmings but you only have one lemming.

Lemingbo.

I agree that Limbo has little to do with Mario, but 3D Mario also has very little to do with 2D Mario. The platforming genre is more diverse than Super Mario Bros. Limbo's gameplay involves a great deal of environmental challenges, and that's exactly how I would characterize a platformer. Admittely it's more a puzzle-platformer than a pure platformer.



Chrizum said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Chrizum said:
Pyro as Bill said:

If Limbo is a platformer then so is Lemmings.

Ridiculous statement, those games are nothing alike.


They have far more in common than Mario/Limbo or Sonic/Limbo.

Die until you work out how to solve the puzzle, very little platforming skill required, it's Lemmings but you only have one lemming.

Lemingbo.

I agree that Limbo has little to do with Mario, but 3D Mario also has very little to do with 2D Mario. The platforming genre is more diverse than Super Mario Bros. Limbo's gameplay involves a great deal of environmental challenges, and that's exactly how I would characterize a platformer. Admittely it's more a puzzle-platformer than a pure platformer.


So Lemmings is a platformer then?



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Seece said:
RolStoppable said:

Yes, they do.

This thread is about the entire lifecycles of the seventh gen home consoles, so let's stick with this.

Agree to disagree, now, lifetime, the HD consoles are above and beyond Wii's diversity. Pretty much zero there to entertain the core gamer.

This retreat is almost as ridiculous as it is tiresome, but it's made more egregious by the problem that it's not really related to the discussion you were having.



There's a reason for why the Wii has a more diverse library of very popular games. Nintendo is the most diverse publisher in terms of genres by quite a large bit.

If you look at Nintendo's games 1.5 million plus sellers (I picked 1.5 million rather than 1 million because it removes the issue of what to do with remakes)

5 2D platformers
4 sports games
3 mini games 
2 fitness games
2 3D platformers
2 action adventure games
1 third-person shooter
1 first person shooter
1 RPG (2 if you choose to count Super Paper Mario, in which case, move one from 2D platformers to here)
1 Simulation game
1 fighter
1 racer 
1 music game

(I may be missing a game or two)

There's essentially a game in every genre. The only two I'd say are lacking from the list is "sandbox" and "strategy". For strategy, the problem isn't the lack of the games, it's that they're not selling. You have both Fire Emblem and Battallion Wars, and if things had gone as they intended, you'd have had a Pikmin game too.

The only genre Nintendo really makes an abundance of games in is 2D platformers.  Apart from that, they've made at least one well-selling game in every single genre, with the exception of sandbox.



Seece said:
RolStoppable said:
Seece said:
enrageorange said:

its very easy to prove a point when you set an arbitrary number that will help your point get proven. Tell me now why 5mil is the cut off for games? Is it because the wii has a quite a few very high selling games, and then little in between while the hd consoles have relatively few "mega hits" and a huge amount of games that hover between the 2-5mil mark?

Indeed, and a lot of genres do well on XBLA/PSN rather than Retail, mainly platformers. Can't say the same about Wii in relation to a genre like FPS or something.

Really? Platformers on XBLA and PSN sell in excess of one million paid downloads?

Yeah a fair few do actually, Castle Crashers, Limbo and Braid did over 1 mill alone on XBLA, and that's off the top of my head.

Sources?



Pyro as Bill said:
Chrizum said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Chrizum said:
Pyro as Bill said:

If Limbo is a platformer then so is Lemmings.

Ridiculous statement, those games are nothing alike.


They have far more in common than Mario/Limbo or Sonic/Limbo.

Die until you work out how to solve the puzzle, very little platforming skill required, it's Lemmings but you only have one lemming.

Lemingbo.

I agree that Limbo has little to do with Mario, but 3D Mario also has very little to do with 2D Mario. The platforming genre is more diverse than Super Mario Bros. Limbo's gameplay involves a great deal of environmental challenges, and that's exactly how I would characterize a platformer. Admittely it's more a puzzle-platformer than a pure platformer.


So Lemmings is a platformer then?

I would say no. It's a puzzle game pur sang. A platformer in my book is a game in which you control one character directly where you run, jump and perform various other moves to overcome environmental obstacles and challenges, like jumping over ravines, dodging objects, pushing buttons and pulling levers, etc. until you reach the end of the area/level/world/whatever. The most important skills to be able to play a platformer is agility and good hand-eye coordination. Braid is only part platformer because the emphesis is on problem solving and not on on-the-fly reaction. Lemmings obviously doesn't have any pure platforming elements at all. Limbo, however is a balanced mix of basic run, jump and dodge gameplay mixed with minor problem solving.



Seece said:
morenoingrato said:
Well, looks like immature people couldn't really stand this thread because Wii was actually winning. When a thread is done to make "x" point (This case, 5 million sellers) the least you could do is respect it.

You know what? We should make a 500k comparison.

Immature? I'd say it would be immature to call people out for calling out the OP which suggests 5 mill sellers somehow determines how diverse a consoles library is.

Could you quote the OP and highlight where that claim is made?