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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
sales2099 said:
Ha....ha. Id like to say I told you so.

Having a ton of exclusives every year with therefore thin spread marketing per game will lead to sales of each game not giving a proper return on investment. Without proper awareness, blockbusters will be rare and therefore will fade in the memories of the general gaming public within a year.

Thats why MS releases a few exclusives and markets the crap out of them, while releasing new games on lower-risk avenues like XBLA where it doesnt really matter if they flop or not.


You maybe right, but I think MS is releasing too few of them. 

I agree with that, but then again, things are becoming more multi-platform.  Microsoft had a GEM with Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 for it's first year.  It's too bad Bioware had to go all EA.  But yeah, I wish there were a couple more exclusives.  Sony may have too many, but Microsoft could use maybe 3 more and still solidly market them all. 



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Carl2291 said:
badgenome said:

Yes, just not in this century.

I'll have you know the definitive driving simulator has shit all over Gears of War and Halo combined this century*

*Gran Turismo 5 > Gears of War PC + Halo Wars

I'm confused, you say definitive driving simulator but I don't see Forza mentioned. Maybe I should check the reviews again...



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DarthVolod said:
Rainbow Yoshi said:
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception is selling considerably well and was only released 3 months ago. Microsoft rely on the same old franchises which boosts their profits as they do not take the plunge of seeing through a new franchise. Even Nintendo try to experiment with new franchises.

Microsoft in conjunction with Epic developed Gears of War which is just a year older than the Sony/Naughtydog developed Uncharted franchise while being milked for titles less often than the Uncharted series with 3 gears games vs. 4 uncharted.

Gears was a new and untested franchise which Microsoft in conjunction with Epic took a plunge on and succeeded.

Both Sony and Microsoft took a chance with a third person shooter series during pretty much the same time period. Why don't you accuse Sony of the practice of relying on the same old franchise when they do it to a greater degree than Microsoft?

Also, let's not forget Sony's big exclusive so far this year is a now ancient PS1 series, Twisted Metal.

Microsoft is not looking much better this year with Halo 4 (like the 8th game in series now?) but at least they also have Witcher 2 coming.



Minecraft yes? 

 

Im waiting for that game. Apparently theres a splitscreen mode! ZOMG!!!


When I think of exclusives I usually only consider retail games. I am looking forward to Minecraft, but I am not sure if it is staying an exclusive though because I thought I heard of a version coming to PSN.



ZaneWane said:
Rainbow Yoshi said:
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception is selling considerably well and was only released 3 months ago. Microsoft rely on the same old franchises which boosts their profits as they do not take the plunge of seeing through a new franchise. Even Nintendo try to experiment with new franchises.

heavy bundling is what helping uncharted sell

you mean like gears of war?



sales2099 said:
Ha....ha. Id like to say I told you so.

Having a ton of exclusives every year with therefore thin spread marketing per game will lead to sales of each game not giving a proper return on investment. Without proper awareness, blockbusters will be rare and therefore will fade in the memories of the general gaming public within a year.

Thats why MS releases a few exclusives and markets the crap out of them, while releasing new games on lower-risk avenues like XBLA where it doesnt really matter if they flop or not.

and thats good for gamers, how?

why does it matter at all how well the games are selling, if they are good.

are you more statisfied as a gamer to now that, sure you only had 1 or 2 games this year, but at least the company that published them is making alot of money. i think most people just care if there are a lot of good games. (which is why i bought the ps3 because there are a lot of games, with a lot of quality, i didnt buy  a PS3 because i was hoping sony would make billions of dollars. and really unless you own stock in the company, why should you care.

how does that benefit the gamer? i think games benefit the gamer, dont you?



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osamanobama said:
sales2099 said:
Ha....ha. Id like to say I told you so.

Having a ton of exclusives every year with therefore thin spread marketing per game will lead to sales of each game not giving a proper return on investment. Without proper awareness, blockbusters will be rare and therefore will fade in the memories of the general gaming public within a year.

Thats why MS releases a few exclusives and markets the crap out of them, while releasing new games on lower-risk avenues like XBLA where it doesnt really matter if they flop or not.

and thats good for gamers, how?

why does it matter at all how well the games are selling, if they are good.

are you more statisfied as a gamer to now that, sure you only had 1 or 2 games this year, but at least the company that published them is making alot of money. i think most people just care if there are a lot of good games. (which is why i bought the ps3 because there are a lot of games, with a lot of quality, i didnt buy  a PS3 because i was hoping sony would make billions of dollars. and really unless you own stock in the company, why should you care.

how does that benefit the gamer? i think games benefit the gamer, dont you?

It benefits the gamer in that there will continue to be more games from them.  You won't get any new games from a company that no longer can afford to make them or ceases to exist at all.  However, there needs to be a happy medium.  Like I said in previous posts, they can't keep churning out crap like the most recent socom games.  They aren't good, get bad reviews, bad word of mouth, and don't sell, yet cost lots of money.  Microsoft however, needs more exclusives than just Halo, Gears, Forza, and Fable. 

Remember, it isn't just the sales and the company that suffers, it's the quality of games, and Sony admitted that.  Production budgets and values get cut when you spread yourself too thin.  The consumer doesn't get as quality of a game.  I see it similar to how the government needs to cut back on spending by eliminating the crap.  That doesn't mean I want the government, or gaming companies, to not take risks on new technologies or new games.  It just means I don't want them spending money on unnecessary things.  Too many of Sony's games end up stuck in limbo for one reason or another, which just sucks away money from them with no return on it, and no game ever being made.  They need to either do it, or don't do it.  But they won't be around for much longer at this rate, thus they will be unable to supply us as consumers with awesome games. 



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Dallinor said:
Killiana1a said:
Better yet, get the eff out of the gaming industry altogether with your lol $2.8 billion loss for the 2011 3rd quarter. No one is buying Uncharted compared to those who are buying Grand Theft Auto, Nintendo 1st Party franchises, Halo, and Activision-Blizzard games. Seriously Sony, the writing is on the wall. You are done. Your television business is a failure, the PS3 making 2nd place this gen will be a pyrrhic victory, and your music...LOL.

Anyone want to take bets on when Sony will enter bankruptcy? How many more $2.8 billion 3rd quarter losses can Sony endure?


I don't think it would make sense to leave the game industry. That division still has plenty of potential for Sony. Better to drop a different division.

Uncharted?  That's a poor game to highlight your point. It's actually selling quite well- 3.5m already for the new title, U2 is at 5.5 million. It's turning into a big seller and may yet show more growth going forward, if ND + Sony decide to stick with it into next gen. It's actually been one of Sony's successes on the software front this generation.

As for Sony going backrupt, time will tell.

Uncharted vs. Halo? Try again. The new CEO of Sony, Kaz Hirai, has the job of turning around the Titanic before it hits the iceberg. The whole 3D television business is a complete failure, Blu-Ray is a failure compared to the transition from VHS to DVD, and the PS3...We can start a whole new thread on that because I have my sources in the mainstream media detailing how much of a financial blackhole it was from launch until the price drop in 2009.

My prediction and you can hold me to it, if Sony does not go bankrupt before the release of the PS4, they will exit the console business midstream into the PS4's life.

Sony cannot afford another PS3; each PS4 console has to be selling at a profit from day 1.



Killiana1a said:
Better yet, get the eff out of the gaming industry altogether with your lol $2.8 billion loss for the 2011 3rd quarter. No one is buying Uncharted compared to those who are buying Grand Theft Auto, Nintendo 1st Party franchises, Halo, and Activision-Blizzard games. Seriously Sony, the writing is on the wall. You are done. Your television business is a failure, the PS3 making 2nd place this gen will be a pyrrhic victory, and your music...LOL.

Anyone want to take bets on when Sony will enter bankruptcy? How many more $2.8 billion 3rd quarter losses can Sony endure?


yes, and MS should have left the industry when they lost OVER 6 BILLION (LMAO!) on original Xbox and almost 3 billion on 360 till 2009 (1 RROD, 2 R&D costs during early years)?? And Apple should have left the industry back in 1995 when they were 30 million away from bankruptcy ?? Or Nintendo in 1983 when almost an entire industry went down? GTFO and stop flaming and provoking people boy, ALL japanese companies are in loss as of now, thanks to poor economy and recession these days, so get your head out of your ass



Not a bad idea to trim the fat a bit, forget about the mediocre games with mediocre sales and focus a bit more on the select few who have potential to be great



TrevDaRev said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
@blkfish92 Sony just sucks at advertising period. Where's Kevin Butler when you need him?


As a matter of fact where the hell is Kevin Butler?!?! Haven't seen him in awhile.

Last i saw of him he was in a Bridgestone superbowl commercial lol