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@Koreanguy....

...alright, since Pezus aint got the peas to back up what he posts, I took your advice and read through yours. There is absolutely nothing in them that intelligently argues why Xbox Live should be free. Nothing. You actually compare Xbox Live to Facebook and Google... are you kidding? Because Facebook is free, that means Live should be also? Do you have any idea how rediculous that argument is?
You also use Steam and, amazingly, Nintendo as reasons against Live pricing.... Nintendo.. really? I'm not even gonna go there. As far Steam, it's a completely different service whose business model is based around gaming downloads. Matchmaking functionality for multiplayer games is prohibitive and is not a supported feature for all multiplayer games available. Quite different than Xbox Live. Not to mention, if you look around the web, you'll find more complaints about Steam than you can shake a server at. There, that takes care of those two...
on to Sony's PSN, which is the only thing you listed that's remotely comparable to Xbox Live. You wrote this in an earlier post:
"Truth is Sony have done a great job in bringing PSN on par with Live, but Xbox gamers are too stubborn to admit it since they are paying for theirs."
That 'too stubborn' comment works both ways and the truth is, PSN is NOT on par with Xbox Live. Generally the only people that say that are non-xbox gamers who are to stubborn to admit it since they aren't paying for theirs.
(see what I did there)
You can argue all you want that PSN and Live are equal and I'm sure you will. But PSN doesn't have the same functionality as Live, its community is fragmented by Sony's decision to let developers handle matchmaking, inclusive features such as voice chat/cross game chat, unrestricted messaging, and other member-centric standards make Live, without a doubt, a far more enjoyable experience hooking up online with your friends than PSN. That's worth $5 a month. It's sort of like comparing Netflix and Hulu. One you have to pay for, one you don't and after using both a person can definitely see the disparity that exists between them.
Look, the world turns on money. That's how it works. Companies charging for a service they provide is the norm, not the exception. Xbox Live trumps all those things you listed, and that's why they charge. There's a value in Xbox Live that you simply don't want to admit exists, for whatever reason, I don't know.
Why isn't Netflix free? How about all those dating sites like Match.com, why aren't they free?
They're not because they offer a product for people to use. Are their competitor sites that offer something similiar but don't require a paid subscription, sure, but do those competitors offer the exact same thing.. no, they don't. That's the difference dude.
Don't want it, don't pay for it. But don't try to validate your refusal by comparing things that are dissimilar at the start. Again... Facebook?



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god I love putting the verbal smackdown on people. makes me happy!!!!!!!



Lol, people bitching yet again, don't want to, don't pay, no need to be an outraged melon about it.



Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet a time.

NotStan said:

Lol, people bitching yet again, don't want to, don't pay, no need to be an outraged melon about it.

Well said.

It's not like it's particulary expensive in relative terms anyway.



Millenium said:
NotStan said:

Lol, people bitching yet again, don't want to, don't pay, no need to be an outraged melon about it.

Well said.

It's not like it's particulary expensive in relative terms anyway.

It's like 7p a day.

Fuck whatever will I do without 7p a day.



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pezus said:
dahuman said:
JOKA_ said:
Here is a question that I don't think I've seen asked. Next gen Sony is most likely going to have their shit together when it comes to online. They're going to have trophies, cross-game chat, user-friendly store, and probably more things that aren't in this gen (so will Live). This gen was the first time Sony attempted to have a central network on their console, while it was MS' second go at it. Predictably, Live is a better service, but they have more experience.

What I'm asking is: That next gen, if PSN and Live offer the same expereince (because Sony will know what they are doing), but PSN is still free, are people still going to stick with paying for Live?


The better question is, if the Nintendo Network is on par yet is free, what then? Mario go time for everybody? I say let the sheeps be sheeps behind that fence while we point and laugh is good enough for me.

Nintendo Network on par with SEN and Live? I don't see that happening. Nintendo have absolutely no experience in proper online networking/gaming

I don't see it either, it's a "if" question, which conveys the point of who gives a fuck since it's not my money? I can talk shit about XBL all day, but I wouldn't tell people to not use it, in the end, it doesn't matter if the service is good or bad, sheeps will be sheeps and they like getting farmed.



@pezus...

man this is starting to get fun for me... here's a source... and the best part, this article is BEFORE the PSN hack which put Sony even further in the red.



weird... I got so jazzed up about shutting you up, I forgot to post the link.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-network-losing-money-but-the-outlook-is-bright/



pezus said:

PC is no threat? What does that even mean? I never said PC was a threat, I only said people would flock back to the PC

Well if people would flock back to the PC than the PC would be considered a threat.

I just don't believe an online subscription fee is enough to get people to buy an expensive gaming PC.



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pezus said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Why should it be free? Because you're accustom to it being free?

Offering online services isn't free. For years Sony has actually lost money on PSN. PSN also offers less content than XBL due to Sony charging publishers for bandwidth fees.

Free is great, but bear in mind it cost money to offer those services.

Source?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-network-losing-money-but-the-outlook-is-bright/


http://www.destructoid.com/game-publishers-pissed-at-sony-over-psn-bandwidth-fee--125690.phtml



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