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Quetzalcoatl said:
Hello... i'm Italian..
sometimes the leaking of information about countries, can be mis-stated, because, naturally, people living in other places can't completely understand the situation..
Ok, we are living a really bad piece of time, here, in Italy and in Europe generally, but, believe me, all is far away the catastrophic scenario that media are painting.
And no. Monti is not doing a great job. Monti is not a pm. Is a puppet. Is the puppett of Rockefeller foundation and Bilderberg Group. Monti is here not for "technical leading ans support" He is here for obscure reasons.
But is better to smile and go forward. :)
Italy is not on the edge of the blade.. believe me.

If the situation wasn't that bad, Monti wouldn't be in power to begin with.

A puppett of the Rockefellar foundation and Bilderberg group?

The Rockefellar foundation is a charity orginization... not even sure how they get added in this, outside him having some connections with jewish people, and that for some reason conspiracy theories mostly all center around the Jewish... because when one group has been screwed as much as the jews it MUST mean they're up to something!  Just wait until the Native Americans unleash their one world order!

Then the Bilderberg group?  Really? 

Jumping to conspiracy theories to deflect blame is somewhat unbecoming.

 

Someone doesn't have to listen to the media, All they have to look at is debt ratios and bond yields.



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Seems to me the 3 year ECB loans to banks has calmed things down. All short term bonds have been dropping.

I think even if everyone's heading for recession some of the panic has gone.



The main question for Italy is not what Mario Monti will do now, but what the politics will do in 2013, after the new elections. Obviously Monti is the hand of Europe but he's acting also to fix the italian economy, but at the end he's not too much related to politics, he simply has a technical point of view. Cut costs, get money where you can and soon. But he hasn't got a long term vision as a "dreamer" could have. Now it's time to cut and destroy the trusts dominating Italy, tomorrow Italy must restart a vision for the future.



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No.. lol i'm not blaming for conspiracy..but the facts are here.. Monti was in the directive commission of the Bilderberg Group, he has no connection with Rockefellar foundation, i translated wrong english, from my mind.. but he was in a study-grup founded by Rockefeller in early seventies. Ok.. this means nothing, but in the vision of people that works and knows little, he is a banker, an economist, and he actuated moderations that preserves BANKS. That's the fact.
You know what he actuated ? you really know ?
Berlusconi became inconvenient, and after the G20, in October the government start the mess..
Monti is here for a reason. And is more an European reason than an italian.

Ohh that really disgusting me :(

Sorry for my english, and sorry for the fact that i can't express properly...



I hope we won't, but the ways Monti is trying to avoid it maybe will save us from it, but are driving us into recession.
Sometimes I come to think that if we ever killed all our politicians (including Monti) and the lazy or corrupted 10% of civil servants, our rating would immediately skyrocket to triple A and they'd even invent quadruple A for us...



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
I hope we won't, but the ways Monti is trying to avoid it maybe will save us from it, but are driving us into recession.
Sometimes I come to think that if we ever killed all our politicians (including Monti) and the lazy or corrupted 10% of civil servants, our rating would immediately skyrocket to triple A and they'd even invent quadruple A for us...


LOL. Sei italiano ?

i think is hard to explain something like that.. but Monti has too much interests, he is not a true politician.

..Ops, Italy never saw  a true politician..



Quetzalcoatl said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
I hope we won't, but the ways Monti is trying to avoid it maybe will save us from it, but are driving us into recession.
Sometimes I come to think that if we ever killed all our politicians (including Monti) and the lazy or corrupted 10% of civil servants, our rating would immediately skyrocket to triple A and they'd even invent quadruple A for us...


LOL. Sei italiano ?

i think is hard to explain something like that.. but Monti has too much interests, he is not a true politician.

..Ops, Italy never saw  a true politician..

Yes, ebbene sì.

Fully agree about Monti, about Italy, the last true politician was Giolitti.



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I'm not defending the writers of textbooks but, from my experience as a student almost a decade ago, the rate of new editions in text books seemed to depend on the subject and could often be described as necessary.

With Math textbooks I remember that first edition textbooks tended to see a new edition within 12 months due to errors and sections being rewritten, and the second edition would be replaced a few years after that, but many of my books were third and fourth editions that were still being used a decade after the edition was released.

In computer science books that were more theoritical in basis were like the math books I've already mentioned, but anything that referenced any applications or languages was (almost) constantly updated. While most of the updates were fairly minor, you'd occassionally have a professor make a comment about how an example in a previous edition wouldn't work (for some reason).

In the options I took it was a very mixed bag ... On one hand subjects (like Economics) tended to be in a constant state of being revised to ensure that the most modern examples were used, while in other subjects (like English) new versions of many books were being used every year where the only difference seemed to be the font size (producing different page numbers).



Italians coming in this thread... not so strange after all...



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