A small loss on hardware is no biggie because when you factor in peripherals and games they should end up making money. Someone who goes and buys a vita, memory card and a game undoubtedly made sony money.
Time for hype
A small loss on hardware is no biggie because when you factor in peripherals and games they should end up making money. Someone who goes and buys a vita, memory card and a game undoubtedly made sony money.
Time for hype
Tridrakious said:
Uncharted: Golden Abyss was made in a little bit under a year. Developement started in 2011 and finished in 2011. It's the best reviewed game for the Vita so far (I haven't checked in about a week or two though, might have changed). Sony is making a strong profit in Japan. Things will turn around once the games come. Nintendo had a knee jerk reaction and (as you said) rushed games. |
Uncharted: G A was developed in under a year? you sure about that? cuz in January 2011 they showed of a whole level of it. and the full gameplay... I dont think they made that in just...less than a month? :P really
thekitchensink said:
You do make a fair point, but I just can't see them making $110 profit per system--there is just no way. 3DS was selling at a profit at its launch price of $250, but Nintendo stated that they're now taking a loss. It's the main reason why they posted their first annual loss ever in the history of the company. |
Not for a second did i think Sony were making a profit of $110! But my original post was to say that there might be a slight chance that sony were profiting slighlty on the 3G units. However as many have said in this thread it seems as though, in western regions atleast, that they are not making any profit. I think they would have announced it at some point if they were.
I wasnt arguing against the fact that there are other costs involved though. I was also unaware that it had been confirmed that both PSV and 3DS were being sold for a loss, my bad :)
Tridrakious said:
Uncharted: Golden Abyss was made in a little bit under a year. Developement started in 2011 and finished in 2011. It's the best reviewed game for the Vita so far (I haven't checked in about a week or two though, might have changed). Sony is making a strong profit in Japan. Things will turn around once the games come. |
... No chance at all that Uncharted:GA was made in under a year. When it was shown in January 2011 it was clearly pretty far along, it had already been in development for months and months. I would guess maybe 18 months for development.
chris212223 said:
3 YEARS!! =O |
Obviously they are making a profit per vita sold and that will earn back the capital invested in 3 years , because if they were making a loss on every sale they would actually be deeper in debt in 3 years. so we are looking at two types of profitability ,one per vita sold and second overall profit on the brand one leads to the other.
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$3 for a Battery??
This article lost all the credibility after that. A battery should cost at least $20, probably even more.
Well it makes sense. They found the 3DS parts cost about 80-100 and that's going for $170. I imagine once a company makes up for R&D costs they drop the price.
Onibaka said: $3 for a Battery?? This article lost all the credibility after that. A battery should cost at least $20, probably even more. |
Maybe if you're buying it individually at a store, which would include a small mark up from the manufactorer's price. You have to remember that all of these things are being bought in large quantities, directly from manufactorers, so the prices will be quite a bit lower.
@ OP
I think he may be lowballing some of the prices, but probably not by too much. This shows that Sony is probably aking a little profit in Japan, and will probably be breaking even or maybe taking a very small loss in the US and EU. I also wouldn't be too surprised to see a small cut right before the holidays that shouldn't hurt Sony too much. Well, if the Vita drops like it did in Japan in the US/EU, anyway.
Onibaka said: $3 for a Battery?? This article lost all the credibility after that. A battery should cost at least $20, probably even more. |
No.
You pay $20+ for a lithium battery in store....But cost to Sony is approx $5, give or take 2 bucks.
That said, I don't believe all of their estimates either, such as $19 for a 4 core processor...that doesn't seem to add up.
The cost break down seems wrong, and it doesn't look at the Yen cost either which is the number SONY really care about. Personally i think the Wi-Fi version is ~$180 and the 3G ~$190 for parts, add in labor, shipping, external costs and its probably about ~$240 (Wi-Fi), ~$260(3G) to get the Vita into a store, assuming the store makes $5-$15 per unit the Wi-Fi version is probably break-even or a small loss after currency exchange while the 3G version should generate a small profit.
Still i think SONY would of been better off dropping the 3G, Camera's, Sixaxis parts(Gyroscope, motion senses) and saving $15-20 on the total cost (which might of also allowed them to launch at $199 to break even with game sales.