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naznatips on 09 January 2008

If you really want to talk about the traditional gamer and the casual gamer that's fine, but they are all gamers.  I know people who own nothing but party games for their Wii, but they still play it just as much as I play mine with the standard core games. 

Also, there is certainly already a market for core games on the Wii.  Even for 3rd parties.  It's also clearly much smaller than that of the 360's at the moment, and much larger than the PS3's (which it should be given the userbase difference).  Of course, to be fair, the PS3 can live off of the multiplats it gets from the 360 and its couple party exclusives.   The Wii also to be fair clearly could live off of Nintendo games only, but it also isn't. There are numerous 3rd party successes on the system accross many genres and game styles. 



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Sullla on 09 January 2008
Griffin said:
The PS3/360 are great for the industry, they have the ability to force small and crappy developers to leave the industry or be bought out. The wii/DS are allowing small game companies to make shitty games.

If Nintendo cared about the industry they would re-invest their money back into their company, instead they just sit around with billions of dollars doing nothing to make better games, they make crappy games for the most part, just imagine what SMG or Zelda could of been if Nintendo invested more then the bare minimum into their games.

Sorry for reviving something from the first page, but this is the single stupidest comment I've ever seen here at VGChartz, and among the dumbest things I've ever seen on the Internet, period. I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic, although your second comment seemed to confirm this first one.

I mean, it's at least somewhat forgivable when a random fanboy spouts off nonsense about their console of choice. That's not particuarly intelligent, but there's some kind of weird warped sense of honor there. A marketplace with no smaller developers simply means little to no innovation taking place. As gamers, I think we can all agree that that would be a bad thing.



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NinjaguyDan on 09 January 2008
Sullla said:
Griffin said:
The PS3/360 are great for the industry, they have the ability to force small and crappy developers to leave the industry or be bought out. The wii/DS are allowing small game companies to make shitty games.

If Nintendo cared about the industry they would re-invest their money back into their company, instead they just sit around with billions of dollars doing nothing to make better games, they make crappy games for the most part, just imagine what SMG or Zelda could of been if Nintendo invested more then the bare minimum into their games.

Sorry for reviving something from the first page, but this is the single stupidest comment I've ever seen here at VGChartz, and among the dumbest things I've ever seen on the Internet, period. I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic, although your second comment seemed to confirm this first one.

I mean, it's at least somewhat forgivable when a random fanboy spouts off nonsense about their console of choice. That's not particuarly intelligent, but there's some kind of weird warped sense of honor there. A marketplace with no smaller developers simply means little to no innovation taking place. As gamers, I think we can all agree that that would be a bad thing.


 Hey, if it's in the thread it's fair game.  You're well within your rights to criticize such an idiotic statement.

 

 

 



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Renar on 09 January 2008
Sullla said:
Griffin said:
The PS3/360 are great for the industry, they have the ability to force small and crappy developers to leave the industry or be bought out. The wii/DS are allowing small game companies to make shitty games.

If Nintendo cared about the industry they would re-invest their money back into their company, instead they just sit around with billions of dollars doing nothing to make better games, they make crappy games for the most part, just imagine what SMG or Zelda could of been if Nintendo invested more then the bare minimum into their games.

Sorry for reviving something from the first page, but this is the single stupidest comment I've ever seen here at VGChartz, and among the dumbest things I've ever seen on the Internet, period. I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic, although your second comment seemed to confirm this first one.

I mean, it's at least somewhat forgivable when a random fanboy spouts off nonsense about their console of choice. That's not particuarly intelligent, but there's some kind of weird warped sense of honor there. A marketplace with no smaller developers simply means little to no innovation taking place. As gamers, I think we can all agree that that would be a bad thing.


Sadly, it is not.  But what gets me how many hardcore gamers that believe that if a game isn't one that they like, then by definition, it is shitty.  Or at best, a grudging, "I don't like racing games, but that one is supposed to be good."

Just because as a hardcore you don't have fun with a MP8 or WiiSports or Nintendogs or BrainAge, doesn't mean that the people, that do buy those games, are idiots.  And that these types of games shouldn't have been made.  If the game is fun, and lots of people think so(even if you don't), then it is a good game.  

Someone made a comment on the handheld (casual) fishing games that got popular 3 years ago and now are not.   How many games have the hardcore players bought 3 years ago, and now don't play them regularly?  To me that shows, casual gamers are going to get bored with just one game and want to move on to new games as well.  

We always hear from the 3rd party developer that they just don't do well on Nintendo hardware.  Why is it that none ever say why that is?  At the very least, they could complain that the game engines that they have to develope for the Wii are so inferior to the ones that Nintendo developes for themselves.  Or be honest and say, we put our 3rd rate team on N. products because the better teams don't like producing the types of games we want to make for the Wii, or whatever is the reason, rather than "I don't know / don't know how to create what the N. fans want to buy."

 



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NinjaguyDan on 09 January 2008
Griffin said:
Bodhesatva said:

Are you, by chance, also pro-deforestation?


It depends on where it is happening, if its in a third world country then yes i am fine with it, i also don't care if they have whale hunts, club baby seals. I also support the war machine, and its goal of a global war to sustain US and western goals around the world. The war for oil sounds good, i also would not care if they shot all mexicans entering the US without greencards.

I also support Israel and their war for freedom against the unholy muslim armies, who wish to rid the world of jews and western culture. I also don't think countries should be doing anything to help aids victims in Africa, they caused this, so screw them.

I also think douglas Macarthur should of been allowed to nuke china when they attacked UN forces during the Korean war, but truman was soft and refused to give the greatest war leader ever the weapons to win the war.

I also think that the US was to soft in fighting the VC and NVA forces during the Vietnam war. I also think the US/UN forces went to soft on Iraq during the Gulf war, total destruction of the nation would of been fine.


Um, it's would've or should've, contractions for would have or should have.

As far as the content of your post, I take it you're not a Christian. 

 



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Avinash_Tyagi on 09 January 2008
NinjaguyDan said:
Griffin said:
Bodhesatva said:

Are you, by chance, also pro-deforestation?


It depends on where it is happening, if its in a third world country then yes i am fine with it, i also don't care if they have whale hunts, club baby seals. I also support the war machine, and its goal of a global war to sustain US and western goals around the world. The war for oil sounds good, i also would not care if they shot all mexicans entering the US without greencards.

I also support Israel and their war for freedom against the unholy muslim armies, who wish to rid the world of jews and western culture. I also don't think countries should be doing anything to help aids victims in Africa, they caused this, so screw them.

I also think douglas Macarthur should of been allowed to nuke china when they attacked UN forces during the Korean war, but truman was soft and refused to give the greatest war leader ever the weapons to win the war.

I also think that the US was to soft in fighting the VC and NVA forces during the Vietnam war. I also think the US/UN forces went to soft on Iraq during the Gulf war, total destruction of the nation would of been fine.


Um, it's would've or should've, contractions for would have or should have.

As far as the content of your post, I take it you're not a Christian.

 


 Actually he sounds like a follower of the bible, haven't you read about all the wars they fought in the name of their god against non believers?



 

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NinjaguyDan on 09 January 2008
Avinash_Tyagi said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Griffin said:
Bodhesatva said:

Are you, by chance, also pro-deforestation?


It depends on where it is happening, if its in a third world country then yes i am fine with it, i also don't care if they have whale hunts, club baby seals. I also support the war machine, and its goal of a global war to sustain US and western goals around the world. The war for oil sounds good, i also would not care if they shot all mexicans entering the US without greencards.

I also support Israel and their war for freedom against the unholy muslim armies, who wish to rid the world of jews and western culture. I also don't think countries should be doing anything to help aids victims in Africa, they caused this, so screw them.

I also think douglas Macarthur should of been allowed to nuke china when they attacked UN forces during the Korean war, but truman was soft and refused to give the greatest war leader ever the weapons to win the war.

I also think that the US was to soft in fighting the VC and NVA forces during the Vietnam war. I also think the US/UN forces went to soft on Iraq during the Gulf war, total destruction of the nation would of been fine.


Um, it's would've or should've, contractions for would have or should have.

As far as the content of your post, I take it you're not a Christian.

 


Actually he sounds like a follower of the bible, haven't you read about all the wars they fought in the name of their god against non believers?


I being sarcastic.  How ANYONE could read the new testament and come away with such an ideology is beyond me.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 09 January 2008
NinjaguyDan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Griffin said:
Bodhesatva said:

Are you, by chance, also pro-deforestation?


It depends on where it is happening, if its in a third world country then yes i am fine with it, i also don't care if they have whale hunts, club baby seals. I also support the war machine, and its goal of a global war to sustain US and western goals around the world. The war for oil sounds good, i also would not care if they shot all mexicans entering the US without greencards.

I also support Israel and their war for freedom against the unholy muslim armies, who wish to rid the world of jews and western culture. I also don't think countries should be doing anything to help aids victims in Africa, they caused this, so screw them.

I also think douglas Macarthur should of been allowed to nuke china when they attacked UN forces during the Korean war, but truman was soft and refused to give the greatest war leader ever the weapons to win the war.

I also think that the US was to soft in fighting the VC and NVA forces during the Vietnam war. I also think the US/UN forces went to soft on Iraq during the Gulf war, total destruction of the nation would of been fine.


Um, it's would've or should've, contractions for would have or should have.

As far as the content of your post, I take it you're not a Christian.

 


Actually he sounds like a follower of the bible, haven't you read about all the wars they fought in the name of their god against non believers?


I being sarcastic. How ANYONE could read the new testament and come away with such an ideology is beyond me.


 Well actually didn't it say in the NT that those who deny Jesus's followers will suffer worse than those of Sodom and Gammorah



 

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Smidlee on 09 January 2008
ultraslick said:
Smidlee said:
DarkNight_DS said:
Smidlee said:
 



"Who care's if you plan on buying a 3rd party game or not, there are plenty of people out there that WILL."

Profits should always be your #1 concern and as it stands most companies are not making profits with what they are doing.

If profits are improtant than developers should care who planning to buy what.

Supporting an HD console at this time is a huge mistake.


Or is it? At this time it's true but what about a year or two from now? Just how many gamers are planning to buy both Wii (to play Big N games ) and a HD console PS3/360?


Probably most of them. If they actually are GAMERS is the question.


Well if you get technical anyone ones a gamer including those who play real life sports. While my parents and my wife do play some video games in their life time yet I wouldn't call them video gamers. I just assume most here understood what I meant when I said gamers ; you know the one who video gaming is a hobby.

 It's the same as I have went fishing every now and again yet I wouldn't call myself a fisherman.