No huge surprise, this happens pretty much every year as I remember.
No huge surprise, this happens pretty much every year as I remember.
Wow those are the biggest adjustments I have ever seen.
If MS does have about 3 million consoles sitting on shelves then they pretty much don't have to ship anything for Q1.
kowenicki said:
hmmm n...
psrock 13 hours ago
It seems the horse was too high.
MS stuffed the channels, mostly because retailers ordered based on Black FRiday numbers. Can;t blame them, I never expected anything less than 2.5 million. And every console is down.
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I never said stuffing the channel doesn't exist. We just saw MS doing it.
Alright, this is from your own tread.
psrock said: I'm surprise how close the PS3 and 360 are the last 6 months, I expected a bigger gap due kinect. |
channel stuffing will answer that one
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=129135&page=1
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kowenicki said:
The only time I can even remember referring to it is when I have said previously that it is possible to have over-supply through over ordering by the retailer... but that is irrelevant as it just leads to fewer being shipped later or/and retailers sending them back. By all means go check... shouldnt be too difficult if I have said it millions of times. oh... and now it IS sold 66m not shipped? ffs. lol |
Sad times for VGC, if its off by 2m which is clearly is if 66m is definatley sold, then why should we trust that the Wii and PS3 numbers are close to being right either, for all we know they could all be off by 2m+
Think from now on ill just stick to quaterly shipment statments, its the only thing thats accurate.
its nothing surprising that adjustments have to be done after "official" reports... VGC never hide that their numbers were a calculated guess... people put to much hope in the numbers to supply "prof" that their console is the best!
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yo_john117 said: Wow those are the biggest adjustments I have ever seen. If MS does have about 3 million consoles sitting on shelves then they pretty much don't have to ship anything for Q1. |
Exactly. Shipments arnt going to be close to Q1 last year because they were refilling the channels. Normally they do in the 1.5m region that Q.
So if they do 1.5m again Q1 (even though that's down 1.2m yoy) I dunno how people can claiming stuffing the channel. This Q1 was always going to be below 2.2m at the least, they didn't need to refill the channel.
Now if we see sub 1m, then we're onto something, or as you pointing out, not shipping anything at all.
kowenicki said:
first, the problem is that you are even listening to fanboys, second.... who? |
I would like to know who as well. Please point out some instances of people claiming that Sony Channel stuffed. I am a firm believer that only what retailers order is shipped. As someone who has owned a business I was never surprised with a bunch of product delivered that I didnt order.
Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.
kowenicki said:
and you missed off the wink I put at the end...... I was actually taking the piss out of the "channel stuffers", one which, it now turns out, you are one.
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I'm more of an "undertracker" my friend. And no, You have argued for years Sony overship. winking at yourself is just not healthy.
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psrock said:
I never said stuffing the channel doesn't exist. We just saw MS doing it.
Alright, this is from your own tread.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=129135&page=1
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i have nothing to do with this... but was reading your argument...
and i have to say
BUSTED!
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