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Does Sony Care More About Their Gamer's Then Microsoft and Nintendo...

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Bliss on 12 January 2012

For sure Sony care much more about the hardcore gamers ! Wii is a casual machine(it's enough you look at both the hardware and software), and MS continue for ever with their Halo, Gears and Forza.
Sony 1st party devs are on another planet compared to Nintendo and MS, and you can see the effort from Sony to deliver more original stuff, new IPs, new ideas, more exclusive games. I can't really wait for PS4 ! My 2 cents.



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Michael-5 on 12 January 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Michael-5 said:

You can argue that Sony supports their console more, but when was the last time PSP got a good third (meant first) party exclusive? All Sony does is support consoles more and Nintendo supports the handhelds more. When was the last time you saw a $100 Sony system? PS2's sold for $140 well into this generation, where Nintendo slashed the price of their Gamecube and GBA (which was also a successful console) when they reached their end of life, but I don't feel Sony is doing the same for their PSP, and I don't see PS3 coming down in price that much.


The last time I can think of the PS3 getting a great third party game was Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker. Their first party really shined though with God of War: Ghost of Sparta. The Vita will allow them to make more casual games and core titles. That is, if the Vita launches properly.

In the last 2 years, how many proper 1st party games has Sony put on the PSP? God of War in fall 2010? In that time there have been 3 Final Fantasy games, The 3rd Birthday, Valkyria Chronicles 3, Monster Hunter 3, and a Tactics Ogre remake.

Sony does not support the PSP well at all, similar to Nintendo and Wii, but Nintendo still releases AAA games for the Wii where sony ditched the PSP a full year before its successor released. However they do support their home console well and Nintendo support their handhelds phenomenally. Nintendo cares more overall.

For reference, Nintendo released a mainstream Pokemon, a Kirby game after the DS was replaced, and a Fire Emblem (Japan only), Mario vs. DK, and a Pokemon Ranger the year before the DS was replaced.



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XanderZane on 12 January 2012
sergiodaly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


The PS3 outsold the 360's first year, even with a $600 price tag. Look up the launch sales of both consoles.

good argument... didn't think of that...

nice one!

Not really. That only happened due to a huge shortage of XBox 360. There were no shortages of PS3. After the initial launch, because were actually returning them because they could sell them for a profit on EBay. That's a fact. Gamestop and Toys R. Us even had signs on their doors claiiming they had plenty of PS3 available for sale because they were overstocked. lol!! Sony also did a price cut on the PS3 just 6 months after launch. Another fact. It wasn't at $600 for long. Research is your friend. Nice one indeed. lol!!



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S.T.A.G.E. on 12 January 2012
XanderZane said:
sergiodaly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


The PS3 outsold the 360's first year, even with a $600 price tag. Look up the launch sales of both consoles.

good argument... didn't think of that...

nice one!

Not really. That only happened due to a huge shortage of XBox 360. There were no shortages of PS3. After the initial launch, because were actually returning them because they could sell them for a profit on EBay. That's a fact. Gamestop and Toys R. Us even had signs on their doors claiiming they had plenty of PS3 available for sale because they were overstocked. lol!! Sony also did a price cut on the PS3 just 6 months after launch. Another fact. It wasn't at $600 for long. Research is your friend. Nice one indeed. lol!!

Then explain the inequality of all the other years. The PS3 has shown more growth if you look at it year for year.



Michael-5 on 12 January 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
XanderZane said:
sergiodaly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


The PS3 outsold the 360's first year, even with a $600 price tag. Look up the launch sales of both consoles.

good argument... didn't think of that...

nice one!

Not really. That only happened due to a huge shortage of XBox 360. There were no shortages of PS3. After the initial launch, because were actually returning them because they could sell them for a profit on EBay. That's a fact. Gamestop and Toys R. Us even had signs on their doors claiiming they had plenty of PS3 available for sale because they were overstocked. lol!! Sony also did a price cut on the PS3 just 6 months after launch. Another fact. It wasn't at $600 for long. Research is your friend. Nice one indeed. lol!!

Then explain the inequality of all the other years. The PS3 has shown more growth if you look at it year for year.

I have to side with STAGE here. I bought my 360 after the PS3 released, and one of the reasons I got my 360 was because PS3 was sold out, and the people at Future Shop (Best Buy Equivalent) said they won't have stock up for a month. That and the $600 price tag did scare me shitless and Gears/Lost Planet looked awesome.

PS3 did well considering it started at $600, but didn't PS2 start at $500? Prices crashed fast, and 360 released when PS2 was still a massive gorrilla, so even if PS3 sold better, who cares.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 12 January 2012
Michael-5 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Michael-5 said:

You can argue that Sony supports their console more, but when was the last time PSP got a good third (meant first) party exclusive? All Sony does is support consoles more and Nintendo supports the handhelds more. When was the last time you saw a $100 Sony system? PS2's sold for $140 well into this generation, where Nintendo slashed the price of their Gamecube and GBA (which was also a successful console) when they reached their end of life, but I don't feel Sony is doing the same for their PSP, and I don't see PS3 coming down in price that much.


The last time I can think of the PS3 getting a great third party game was Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker. Their first party really shined though with God of War: Ghost of Sparta. The Vita will allow them to make more casual games and core titles. That is, if the Vita launches properly.

In the last 2 years, how many proper 1st party games has Sony put on the PSP? God of War in fall 2010? In that time there have been 3 Final Fantasy games, The 3rd Birthday, Valkyria Chronicles 3, Monster Hunter 3, and a Tactics Ogre remake.

Sony does not support the PSP well at all, similar to Nintendo and Wii, but Nintendo still releases AAA games for the Wii where sony ditched the PSP a full year before its successor released. However they do support their home console well and Nintendo support their handhelds phenomenally. Nintendo cares more overall.

For reference, Nintendo released a mainstream Pokemon, a Kirby game after the DS was replaced, and a Fire Emblem (Japan only), Mario vs. DK, and a Pokemon Ranger the year before the DS was replaced.

You only named the top games, not all of the games. There were AAA games on that list from 2010-2011.  The backlog of the PSP is great as well.



Michael-5 on 12 January 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Michael-5 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Michael-5 said:

You can argue that Sony supports their console more, but when was the last time PSP got a good third (meant first) party exclusive? All Sony does is support consoles more and Nintendo supports the handhelds more. When was the last time you saw a $100 Sony system? PS2's sold for $140 well into this generation, where Nintendo slashed the price of their Gamecube and GBA (which was also a successful console) when they reached their end of life, but I don't feel Sony is doing the same for their PSP, and I don't see PS3 coming down in price that much.


The last time I can think of the PS3 getting a great third party game was Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker. Their first party really shined though with God of War: Ghost of Sparta. The Vita will allow them to make more casual games and core titles. That is, if the Vita launches properly.

In the last 2 years, how many proper 1st party games has Sony put on the PSP? God of War in fall 2010? In that time there have been 3 Final Fantasy games, The 3rd Birthday, Valkyria Chronicles 3, Monster Hunter 3, and a Tactics Ogre remake.

Sony does not support the PSP well at all, similar to Nintendo and Wii, but Nintendo still releases AAA games for the Wii where sony ditched the PSP a full year before its successor released. However they do support their home console well and Nintendo support their handhelds phenomenally. Nintendo cares more overall.

For reference, Nintendo released a mainstream Pokemon, a Kirby game after the DS was replaced, and a Fire Emblem (Japan only), Mario vs. DK, and a Pokemon Ranger the year before the DS was replaced.

You only named the top games, not all of the games. There were AAA games on that list from 2010-2011.  The backlog of the PSP is great as well.

What games did I miss? I went to Wikipedia, looked for the first Sony published title and God of War was the last one (I could have missed something, maybe, check and tell me what game I missed, if any).

Backlog of the PSP is great, but far less then DS. I recall having a debate with you, and DS games aren't your type of games, but they are still excellent and far more abundant then 1st party PSP titles. Regardless, for the last year or so PSP has been a dead system to Sony.



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sergiodaly on 12 January 2012
XanderZane said:
sergiodaly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


The PS3 outsold the 360's first year, even with a $600 price tag. Look up the launch sales of both consoles.

good argument... didn't think of that...

nice one!

Not really. That only happened due to a huge shortage of XBox 360. There were no shortages of PS3. After the initial launch, because were actually returning them because they could sell them for a profit on EBay. That's a fact. Gamestop and Toys R. Us even had signs on their doors claiiming they had plenty of PS3 available for sale because they were overstocked. lol!! Sony also did a price cut on the PS3 just 6 months after launch. Another fact. It wasn't at $600 for long. Research is your friend. Nice one indeed. lol!!

even if that shortage did happened... (i am not from america so i don't really know how the launch wnt down in there) that argument is nothing compared with the fact that in the first year Xbox did not have any competition in terms of 7th generation consoles. Research? that was indeed very nice!

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theprof00 on 12 January 2012
XanderZane said:
sergiodaly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


The PS3 outsold the 360's first year, even with a $600 price tag. Look up the launch sales of both consoles.

good argument... didn't think of that...

nice one!

Not really. That only happened due to a huge shortage of XBox 360. There were no shortages of PS3. After the initial launch, because were actually returning them because they could sell them for a profit on EBay. That's a fact. Gamestop and Toys R. Us even had signs on their doors claiiming they had plenty of PS3 available for sale because they were overstocked. lol!! Sony also did a price cut on the PS3 just 6 months after launch. Another fact. It wasn't at $600 for long. Research is your friend. Nice one indeed. lol!!

Not so sure about the validity of your facts (no sources), and I KNOW those retailers wouldn't have signs saying "overstocked", it was 599 and 499 at launch, the first price drop came a year later in late 2007.



Jay520 on 12 January 2012
sergiodaly said:
Jay520 said:
NiKKoM said:
I do want to say Sony cares more about the gamers from the other companies.. letting their big 3rd party exclusives like monster hunter, tekken, final fantasy,devil may cry etc just go on to appear on other platforms and doing absoluty nothing about it is a sign of a big heart..


Yup, Although Sony allowed those games to go to different platforms, they still allowed Playstation fans to play those games. So, Playstation gamers aren't missing out. Sony still cares about them.

Also, Sony only cares about their fans, they don't really care about Xbox gamers. First off, let me remind you that many former Playstation gamers moved on to the Xbox 360. Sony knew this and they still cared about their ex-fans on the Xbox 360. Once you buy from Sony, Sony will always care about you, even if you move on to different consoles. That's why Sony allowed those 3rd party exclusives to go to the Xbox 360. They still cared about their ex-fans on that console, so they decided to still give them a plethora of great games.

LOL... that made me laught!



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