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Should we force morbidly obese into fat camp?

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Should there be a mandatory fat camp for morbidly obese?

Yes 55 47.41%
 
No 59 50.86%
 
Total:114

Only if we can force gays into gay camp.





Wait... nevermind, that'd be paradise on Earth for them.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
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People should be free to live how they choose to. If someone chooses to be 400 lbs and do nothing about it, that's their choice.



rakugakist said:
No, the idea is completely ridiculous, and I can't believe many of you are for it. I live in a free country damnit. Also, what is a fat camp going to anyways? Does rehab guarantee sobriety from addiction. No.

Also, anyone who thinks smoking cigarettes should be outlawed needs to have their head examined. Sure, outlaw smoking inside, but outlawing it completely makes no sense. The jobs that would be lost and the taxes the government would lose would be ridiculous.

Making cigarettes illegal, but legalizing Marijuana makes no sense either, as that's a counter point to the original fat camp argument in the first place. Marijuana makes people hungry!!

I prefer to live in a country where free choice is applauded, as opposed to some place where ridiculous laws are set into place just cause you don't like something.

I'm honestly baffled at some of these statements.

No worse than the government giving my money to them to help them continue being fat. I don't care if people are fat and want to stay that way. That's totally fine. It's their choice. But when they're staying fat and I'm paying for it, I have a problem with that. Don't make me pay for it, and I won't make you stop being fat. Then you can be fat all you want, and do it on your own dime. That's my problem here. I can take care of myself far better than the government ever could, and everyone else could too if the government wasn't forcing it's way into every aspect of everyone's lives. I want the government to stop trying to baby everyone, because they suck at it and they have ended up making things less fair than they otherwise would have been.

What people need to understand is that with freedom comes responsibility. So if you want to be fat, more power to you. But if you expect me to pay for it, I'm gonna tell you that you can't be fat anymore, because it's my goddamn money.



kain_kusanagi said:
Yes, but only if we also force all who are deemed abnormal to undergo normalizing treatment. If we aren't going to force the short to be surgically stretched, or the gay to go straight or the skinny to go to skinny camp then I say it's not fair and the fatties can stay fat.

Seriously though, people are fat for many reasons. They are free to eat and do as they like. If they pay into a health insurance company than they should get equal care. Like smokers and heavy drinkers the fat may have to pay more due to their lifestyle choices, but it's their right to eat, drink and smoke what they want. I don't want to live in a country that tells people they have to be "normal".

Instead we as a society should encourage healthy lifestyle through education. Schools should offer healthy but tasty meals to get kids to enjoy eating healthy. P.E. should be mandatory and well funded so kids learn to have fun outside. Health class should also be mandatory so all kids learn how the body works and why inactivity and bad diets lead to obesity and diabetes.

Just because you decided to get healthy and lose wait, (congrats, good job by the way), it doesn't mean you have the right to force anyone to live your lifestyle choices. This past year I decided to take my health seriously too. I've lost over 60 pounds by exercising and eating healthy. For me it's about health, not my appearance so I changed my lifestyle instead of going on a diet. But I would never tell a fat friend to drop the doughnut and pick up an apple. My weight loss has encouraged friends and family to get healthy and they've asked for advice so I happily gave it to them.

Educate, don't dictate.

Most of what you typed I agree with.  I was going for a controversial topic and wanted to try and support a radical idea.  One thing that all Americans can agree on is that there needs to be a drastic change in our lifestyles asap.  More and more children are obese and are now getting diseases that shouldn't show up till at least teens (diabetes, etc).  Yes, I made a lifestyle change and I do not view it as a temp diet.  Diet is your lifestyle not just some temporary thing.  Education and promotion of physical activities (sports, play outside, etc) should be top priority to make sure USA doesn't end up with a 70+% obese rate.  I really don't think fat camp should be forced but the heavily obese people aren't giving me any hope that there will be a brighter, healthier future for Americans.  If anything most humans have devolved into lazy fat asses.



government shouldn't be that involved in someone's life...if fatty wants to be fat let him be.

...but all actions demand consequences. if fatties have a higher risk of health care cost then their insurance premium should reflect that.



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kitler53 said:
government shouldn't be that involved in someone's life...if fatty wants to be fat let him be.

...but all actions demand consequences. if fatties have a higher risk of health care cost then their insurance premium should reflect that.


Would you be in favor of a fatties only section so normal people don't have to see them slush down their food?



Seece said:
Should we ban people from smoking?

Pretty much this, if people want to be unhealthy and want to smoke or eat to be fat and not exercise is their decision... i couldnt care less, we shouldnt force them because people are free to be whatever they want.

Talking about exercise, i need to hit the gym right now and destroy this muscles :p



sethnintendo said:
kitler53 said:
government shouldn't be that involved in someone's life...if fatty wants to be fat let him be.

...but all actions demand consequences. if fatties have a higher risk of health care cost then their insurance premium should reflect that.


Would you be in favor of a fatties only section so normal people don't have to see them slush down their food?

can't see the video but (unlike something like smoking where i can be effected) someone elses eating does not have any direct effect on me therefore segregation does not seem appropriate.



Oh it was just Mr. Creosote (Monty Python)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlK62rjQWLk

 

As you can see in the video his eating habits does affect the other patrons. 



I understand where most are coming from when they state they can be fat on their own because I don't want government involved, etc.. Or they can do what they want as long as they don't affect me...

You know what?? Fatties do affect me almost everyday. If I go to a store and get behind a fat person walking slow then they are slowing me down. Also, try and not be so lazy and use the scooters at the store and actually walk your fat ass around. Whatever they do they are pretty much guaranteed to be in the way taking up more space than needed. I also believe fat people drive slower since they are used to being slow and have slow reaction time. Most of the times I see incredible slow drivers they usually turn out to be either old or fat or both. I can keep going if you guys want me to show you how fatties affect everyone.