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No, it isn't. 292 31.74%
 
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LivingMetal said:
voty2000 said:
It will end up selling significantly less than its predecessor and lost market share to Microsoft so I don't consider it a success. I may have considered it a success if all it did was sell less consoles but letting Microsoft become a major player in the console market will haunt Sony for many years.


But selling less has the direct effect of a competitor becoming bigger.  Or maybe you help allowed Microsoft to become a major player.  You're not so hot at being bipartisan.


I have no idea what you said in the second sentence so I'll assume you're calling me sexy. 

As for the first sentence, what you said is obvious and I didn't think I had to spell it out.  I'm simply stating that if Sony sold fewer consoles and its rivals didn't gain market share then it wouldn't be as much of a problem.  Sony would still be the leader and Nintendo and Microsoft would be left with the scraps. 

As for the last sentence I'm not concerned about being bipartisan.  Look at my game collection and it's clear what my console of choice is.  But, nothing I said isn't true and I'm sure Sony is not happy that Microsoft gained such a market share so my comment wasn't biased, it's fact. 

I don't think the PS3 was a failure, I rather enjoy mine and Sony is making money from it.  I just don't think I'd call it a success.

My opinion, nothing more.



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Incoming wall of text (can't make paragraphs with my phone browser).-----Hindsight is 20/20.  We can look at things now and see that our three players, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft all made huge mistakes this gen.  The painful truth:  Nintendo released a horrendously under-powered console, offered piss poor support in 2011, and failed to shed its "kiddie" image.  Microsft was a sham of a first party with very little in the way of diverse first party releases.  Their hardware was the most unreliable in console history (afaik).  Sony lost billions of dollars, marketshare, and exclusive support.  They went from being an untouchable juggernaut to being the bottom of the totem pole.  All of the "Big 3" fucked up majorly.  The measure of thei success comes from how well they lived up to expectations.  customer expectations, company expectations, financial expectations, etc.  When it's all said and done, how will history remember the PS3?--I'll edit this in about three hours.  I hate posting from a phone.  I'm going somewhere with this, though!  Bare with me!!



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Ajescent said:
Squilliam said:
The PS3 is like a guy who pissed away his inheritance, threw away amazing 6 figure jobs where he didn't have to do jack all day but is a success because he banged a lot of hot chicks.

I get the job part but how does the "hot chick" part equate?

The games.

Because the PS3 had a lot of hot chicks, everything else doesn't matter in the eyes of teenagers and young men, because that's the only measurement of relevance for them. What they don't see is that without money it will become increasingly harder for this Sony guy to get hot chicks. This kind of lifestyle isn't sustainable, but the PS3 is considered successful regardless.



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I believe it will go down at Sony at not being a success. The PS3 has lost Sony a lot of money and the key would be what has it gained. It has not gained Sony market share, profits or even successfully solidified the PS brand. The PS brand has weaken, MS brand has strengthen even in countries that think PS is gaming, and Nintendo has done nothing but dominated. In order to even stay in the race, Sony had to slash the price for the PS3, killing any profit they made through manufacturing. Sony is still bleeding money off of the PS3 which if it continues will put a lot of pressure on their business as Sony attempt to fend off MS and Nintendo with their next consoles.

The PS brand is not the top dog any more and believe that the PS3 will start to net a profit or even have the successful lifespan like the PS1 and 2 would be optimistic. There is a significant chance that the Wii U can definitely cut into that 10 year life span and we still have to consider what the next Xbox will bring to the table.



RolStoppable said:
Ajescent said:
Squilliam said:
The PS3 is like a guy who pissed away his inheritance, threw away amazing 6 figure jobs where he didn't have to do jack all day but is a success because he banged a lot of hot chicks.

I get the job part but how does the "hot chick" part equate?

The games.

Because the PS3 had a lot of hot chicks, everything else doesn't matter in the eyes of teenagers and young men, because that's the only measurement of relevance for them. What they don't see is that without money it will become increasingly harder for this Sony guy to get hot chicks. This kind of lifestyle isn't sustainable, but the PS3 is considered successful regardless.

Then I guess I'm a teenager because the "hot chicks" are all that matters to me in this analogy. I'm not that big a fan to be looking at the business reports of companies, I don't find that fun. Yes I am aware I'm on the wrong site as someone always inevitably chimes every time I say this but believe it or not I came here for the atmosphere.



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It is relative. Compared how dominant they were last gen, its weak performance



d21lewis said:

Incoming wall of text (can't make paragraphs with my phone browser).-----Hindsight is 20/20.  We can look at things now and see that our three players, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft all made huge mistakes this gen.  The painful truth:  Nintendo released a horrendously under-powered console, offered piss poor support in 2011, and failed to shed its "kiddie" image.  Microsft was a sham of a first party with very little in the way of diverse first party releases.  Their hardware was the most unreliable in console history (afaik).  Sony lost billions of dollars, marketshare, and exclusive support.  They went from being an untouchable juggernaut to being the bottom of the totem pole.  All of the "Big 3" fucked up majorly.  The measure of thei success comes from how well they lived up to expectations.  customer expectations, company expectations, financial expectations, etc.  When it's all said and done, how will history remember the PS3?--I'll edit this in about three hours.  I hate posting from a phone.  I'm going somewhere with this, though!  Bare with me!!



I post on my phone too. In order to make paragraphs, you must type "[less-than sign]br /[greater-than sign]". I would type it myself but you wouldn't be able to see it.

A qualified success I'd say. It's LT sales will end up decent and it'll have sold a decent amount of software. It got Sony a decent foothold in online gaming in the West (if a second place one) and it ensured Blu Ray won the format war.

But it cost too much to produce for too long vs what the market was prepared to pay and was part of a loss of market-share for Sony (I'd blame how Sony handled this gen at the beginning and how weak PSN was to begin with vs the PS3 itself really - the console was feature rich itself but let down to an extent by weak surrounding services.

From a consumer perspective though it's definitely a success - it's over 60 million in sales, has a lot of exclusives and entertainment hub features and is still showing YOY growth.

So a qualified success overall.



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Reasonable said:
A qualified success I'd say. It's LT sales will end up decent and it'll have sold a decent amount of software. It got Sony a decent foothold in online gaming in the West (if a second place one) and it ensured Blu Ray won the format war.

But it cost too much to produce for too long vs what the market was prepared to pay and was part of a loss of market-share for Sony (I'd blame how Sony handled this gen at the beginning and how weak PSN was to begin with vs the PS3 itself really - the console was feature rich itself but let down to an extent by weak surrounding services.

From a consumer perspective though it's definitely a success - it's over 60 million in sales, has a lot of exclusives and entertainment hub features and is still showing YOY growth.

So a qualified success overall.

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What Sony wanted from this gen was another success like the PS2, and it is has failed miserably. The huge R&D costs could only be justified by a success on that scale. It has lost loads of market share and damaged the brand. Previously, PlayStation was the word for gaming, but this is not so much the case any more

So despite the financial failure, Sony has improved for the long term. After the slow start, the PSN service has improved massively and is now competitive with XBL. I also feel that after the failure of the launch and PR mis-steps, the PS Blog has done a great job of connecting with fans, and giving a more friendly look to the brand

The success since the awful start has been good, and model for the struggling Sony as a whole, shown by the promotion of Kaz to president (shortly)

The other positive is that they seem to have invested even more in their first party studios due to the loss of the 3rd parties, and in my opinion have produced much better games throughout SCE

So we can all agree that financially it has failed, but there has been some benefits for Sony