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TC_Squared on 05 February 2012
TC_Squared said:
angrypoolman 2 days ago
TC_Squared said:
Before anyone tries explaining what evolution is to Christians, I think that you must make them aware of what a theory is in the fields of science. Disbelievers misinterpret a theory for a hypothesis.

Here is how the two are contrasted via Wikipedia, which is identical to how my science professors have explained it.

"Hypotheses are individual empirically testable conjectures, while theories are collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

A perfect example of how the word theory has been misinterpreted, in the United States at least, is the term "Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy 'Theories'". There has not been a single theory to the conspiracy claims of the Kennedy assassination, as none of the claims have contained "collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

Additionally, the only subject that is truly factually based is mathematics. Even gravity is a theory, via Newton's Theory of Gravitation. If Christians are going to disbelieve evolution, they should also disbelieve gravity.



but christians dont have a problem with evolution. what they have a problem with is the notion that every living organism has a common ancestor. just wanted to clear that up for.. i dunno, i think the third time? because people cant seem to grasp this concept for whatever reason.

Okay? What does that have to do with my post?



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Andrespetmonkey on 05 February 2012
TC_Squared said:
angrypoolman 2 days ago
TC_Squared said:
Before anyone tries explaining what evolution is to Christians, I think that you must make them aware of what a theory is in the fields of science. Disbelievers misinterpret a theory for a hypothesis.

Here is how the two are contrasted via Wikipedia, which is identical to how my science professors have explained it.

"Hypotheses are individual empirically testable conjectures, while theories are collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

A perfect example of how the word theory has been misinterpreted, in the United States at least, is the term "Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy 'Theories'". There has not been a single theory to the conspiracy claims of the Kennedy assassination, as none of the claims have contained "collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

Additionally, the only subject that is truly factually based is mathematics. Even gravity is a theory, via Newton's Theory of Gravitation. If Christians are going to disbelieve evolution, they should also disbelieve gravity.



but christians dont have a problem with evolution. what they have a problem with is the notion that every living organism has a common ancestor. just wanted to clear that up for.. i dunno, i think the third time? because people cant seem to grasp this concept for whatever reason.

I don't think you can speak on behalf of all or even most christians that reject evolution. I've never any evolution-rejecting christian say that their problem with evolution is specifically all organisms having a common ancestor. You're the only person I've heard say that.



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TC_Squared on 05 February 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:
TC_Squared said:
angrypoolman 2 days ago
TC_Squared said:
Before anyone tries explaining what evolution is to Christians, I think that you must make them aware of what a theory is in the fields of science. Disbelievers misinterpret a theory for a hypothesis.

Here is how the two are contrasted via Wikipedia, which is identical to how my science professors have explained it.

"Hypotheses are individual empirically testable conjectures, while theories are collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

A perfect example of how the word theory has been misinterpreted, in the United States at least, is the term "Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy 'Theories'". There has not been a single theory to the conspiracy claims of the Kennedy assassination, as none of the claims have contained "collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

Additionally, the only subject that is truly factually based is mathematics. Even gravity is a theory, via Newton's Theory of Gravitation. If Christians are going to disbelieve evolution, they should also disbelieve gravity.



but christians dont have a problem with evolution. what they have a problem with is the notion that every living organism has a common ancestor. just wanted to clear that up for.. i dunno, i think the third time? because people cant seem to grasp this concept for whatever reason.

I don't think you can speak on behalf of all or even most christians that reject evolution. I've never any evolution-rejecting christian say that their problem with evolution is specifically all organisms having a common ancestor. You're the only person I've heard say that.


What are you talking about? Did you carefully read the post? angrypoolman said the following:

but christians dont have a problem with evolution. what they have a problem with is the notion that every living organism has a common ancestor. just wanted to clear that up for.. i dunno, i think the third time? because people cant seem to grasp this concept for whatever reason.

 

All I posted was explaining the definition of the word theory.



Andrespetmonkey on 05 February 2012
TC_Squared said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
TC_Squared said:
angrypoolman 2 days ago
TC_Squared said:
Before anyone tries explaining what evolution is to Christians, I think that you must make them aware of what a theory is in the fields of science. Disbelievers misinterpret a theory for a hypothesis.

Here is how the two are contrasted via Wikipedia, which is identical to how my science professors have explained it.

"Hypotheses are individual empirically testable conjectures, while theories are collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

A perfect example of how the word theory has been misinterpreted, in the United States at least, is the term "Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy 'Theories'". There has not been a single theory to the conspiracy claims of the Kennedy assassination, as none of the claims have contained "collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

Additionally, the only subject that is truly factually based is mathematics. Even gravity is a theory, via Newton's Theory of Gravitation. If Christians are going to disbelieve evolution, they should also disbelieve gravity.



but christians dont have a problem with evolution. what they have a problem with is the notion that every living organism has a common ancestor. just wanted to clear that up for.. i dunno, i think the third time? because people cant seem to grasp this concept for whatever reason.

I don't think you can speak on behalf of all or even most christians that reject evolution. I've never any evolution-rejecting christian say that their problem with evolution is specifically all organisms having a common ancestor. You're the only person I've heard say that.


What are you talking about? Did you carefully read the post? angrypoolman said the following:

but christians dont have a problem with evolution. what they have a problem with is the notion that every living organism has a common ancestor. just wanted to clear that up for.. i dunno, i think the third time? because people cant seem to grasp this concept for whatever reason.

 

All I posted was explaining the definition of the word theory.

Oh ok, sorry that reply was to angrypoolman



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angrypoolman on 06 February 2012
TC_Squared said:
TC_Squared said:
angrypoolman 2 days ago
TC_Squared said:
Before anyone tries explaining what evolution is to Christians, I think that you must make them aware of what a theory is in the fields of science. Disbelievers misinterpret a theory for a hypothesis.

Here is how the two are contrasted via Wikipedia, which is identical to how my science professors have explained it.

"Hypotheses are individual empirically testable conjectures, while theories are collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

A perfect example of how the word theory has been misinterpreted, in the United States at least, is the term "Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy 'Theories'". There has not been a single theory to the conspiracy claims of the Kennedy assassination, as none of the claims have contained "collections of hypotheses that are logically linked together into a coherent explanation of some aspect of reality and which have individually or jointly received some empirical support."

Additionally, the only subject that is truly factually based is mathematics. Even gravity is a theory, via Newton's Theory of Gravitation. If Christians are going to disbelieve evolution, they should also disbelieve gravity.



but christians dont have a problem with evolution. what they have a problem with is the notion that every living organism has a common ancestor. just wanted to clear that up for.. i dunno, i think the third time? because people cant seem to grasp this concept for whatever reason.

Okay? What does that have to do with my post?



it has to do with the first sentence of your post. there is no need to explain evolution to christians because if evolution is simply a variation in allele frequency, i have never heard one christian say they had a problem with that. this is why i constantly have been trying to tell people that they need to define what evolution is before they start talking about it. do you guys realize how many definitions people try to attribute to it? its messed up.