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CNET: Handheld gaming to die in 2012. Vita not to release in the U.S.

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Dgc1808 said:
Don't you guys see? Cnet just trolled you all. No way is that video serious... Too many stupid predictions.


Thank you.....THIS. I'm surprised it took to over 30 posts before someone said it. They seem to be joking with about half of their predictions and even poking fun at themselves for previous years' predictions. At least that's how it came across to me. Damn, they got everyone all heated...lol.



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TROLOLOLOLOL dream on CNET, Vita is going to selll very well america and europe, compared to psp and 3ds is going to have crazy sales so everyone wins



it's the future of handheld

PS VITA = LIFE

The official Vita thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130023&page=1

Play4Fun said:
Why do people make such dumb predictions?

*Sigh*


Well, Pachter has made a lucrative career out of it......



People use CNET for stuff other than downloads?



What makes you think Vita will sell in Europe Jneul?

In UK Vita (with no Wifi) will retail for £229. Add to that you need a memory card means add another £39.99. Then on top of that you need a game meaning £29.99-£39.99. Which means on release day if you want to play say Uncharted your be spending pretty much £310. That is $482.
So a £310 Vita will be going up against a £130 3DS with Zelda. It is nearly x3 the price of the 3DS when you take into account what you need to start with.

The Cnet report is a load of rubbish but if you think people in the UK would rather spend £300 on a handheld instead of say an Ipad then your going to be dissapointed. Vita will post poor numbers until the price comes down just as the 3DS did. The difference being the Vita will have to come down in price a lot to be able to compete with the 3ds.

What i think they meant was that handheld console gaming is dying mobile/tablet gaming is taking that audience. People no longer think they need a console to play games on the move. Look at games like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRYMh3ShzA and even this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPzvpK3T8s
Those are playing on mobile phones and are better looking then the games on 3DS. Mobile gaming has caught up with handheld gaming.



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Hyruken said:
What makes you think Vita will sell in Europe Jneul?

In UK Vita (with no Wifi) will retail for £229. Add to that you need a memory card means add another £39.99. Then on top of that you need a game meaning £29.99-£39.99. Which means on release day if you want to play say Uncharted your be spending pretty much £310. That is $482.
So a £310 Vita will be going up against a £130 3DS with Zelda. It is nearly x3 the price of the 3DS when you take into account what you need to start with.

The Cnet report is a load of rubbish but if you think people in the UK would rather spend £300 on a handheld instead of say an Ipad then your going to be dissapointed. Vita will post poor numbers until the price comes down just as the 3DS did. The difference being the Vita will have to come down in price a lot to be able to compete with the 3ds.

What i think they meant was that handheld console gaming is dying mobile/tablet gaming is taking that audience. People no longer think they need a console to play games on the move. Look at games like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRYMh3ShzA and even this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPzvpK3T8s
Those are playing on mobile phones and are better looking then the games on 3DS. Mobile gaming has caught up with handheld gaming.

These games look barely playable. Also, by now it should be established that it isn't about how games look, so better looking games on smartphones aren't a threat for a dedicated gaming handheld.



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RolStoppable said:
Hyruken said:
What makes you think Vita will sell in Europe Jneul?

In UK Vita (with no Wifi) will retail for £229. Add to that you need a memory card means add another £39.99. Then on top of that you need a game meaning £29.99-£39.99. Which means on release day if you want to play say Uncharted your be spending pretty much £310. That is $482.
So a £310 Vita will be going up against a £130 3DS with Zelda. It is nearly x3 the price of the 3DS when you take into account what you need to start with.

The Cnet report is a load of rubbish but if you think people in the UK would rather spend £300 on a handheld instead of say an Ipad then your going to be dissapointed. Vita will post poor numbers until the price comes down just as the 3DS did. The difference being the Vita will have to come down in price a lot to be able to compete with the 3ds.

What i think they meant was that handheld console gaming is dying mobile/tablet gaming is taking that audience. People no longer think they need a console to play games on the move. Look at games like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRYMh3ShzA and even this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPzvpK3T8s
Those are playing on mobile phones and are better looking then the games on 3DS. Mobile gaming has caught up with handheld gaming.

These games look barely playable. Also, by now it should be established that it isn't about how games look, so better looking games on smartphones aren't a threat for a dedicated gaming handheld.

hear, hear!



RolStoppable said:
Hyruken said:

What i think they meant was that handheld console gaming is dying mobile/tablet gaming is taking that audience. People no longer think they need a console to play games on the move. Look at games like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRYMh3ShzA and even this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPzvpK3T8s
Those are playing on mobile phones and are better looking then the games on 3DS. Mobile gaming has caught up with handheld gaming.

These games look barely playable. Also, by now it should be established that it isn't about how games look, so better looking games on smartphones aren't a threat for a dedicated gaming handheld.


People said the exact same-thing when the Wii came out. They said the same-thing about smartphones not taking off as they didn't have buttons, they said the same-thing about Kinect which went on to be the fastest selling enertainment device in history.

Point being while you might not like it the casual audience does. And sadly it is that audience that has defined this generation. But more importantly is shaping the future of gaming. Look at things like Angry Birds. That game has been sold over 350m times. Did those people need a handheld console to play that? No. As you say it isn't about looks, graphics mean nothing. But when a phone can do exactly the same as a console and more why would the people choose the console?

For you or I we would choose the console because we are hardcore gamers who prefer physical controls. But we are now the vast minority. Sales of smartphones/tablets/touchscreen monitors/sensor technology etc proove that.

Phones have the ability to change things yearly such as the processor etc where as consoles don't. Look at the Google Nexus Galaxy. It has an HD screen and super fast processor. The speed at which these things are upgraded makes handhelds look out of date fast. Last year you could play GTA3 on your phone, whats to say next year you wouldn't be able to play GTA4?

So i think saying they are not a threat is quite laughable when you see sales of them destroy consoles. Iphone 4s sold over 17m in under 3 months. Samsung Galaxy s2 sold even more then that. Companies have worked out gaming on phones is a potential bigger industry. You might not like it, i deffinatly don't like it. But burrying your head in the sand and trying to pretend it isn't as big as it is won't make it go away.



Hyruken said:
RolStoppable said:
Hyruken said:

What i think they meant was that handheld console gaming is dying mobile/tablet gaming is taking that audience. People no longer think they need a console to play games on the move. Look at games like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRYMh3ShzA and even this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPzvpK3T8s
Those are playing on mobile phones and are better looking then the games on 3DS. Mobile gaming has caught up with handheld gaming.

These games look barely playable. Also, by now it should be established that it isn't about how games look, so better looking games on smartphones aren't a threat for a dedicated gaming handheld.


People said the exact same-thing when the Wii came out. They said the same-thing about smartphones not taking off as they didn't have buttons, they said the same-thing about Kinect which went on to be the fastest selling enertainment device in history.

Point being while you might not like it the casual audience does. And sadly it is that audience that has defined this generation. But more importantly is shaping the future of gaming. Look at things like Angry Birds. That game has been sold over 350m times. Did those people need a handheld console to play that? No. As you say it isn't about looks, graphics mean nothing. But when a phone can do exactly the same as a console and more why would the people choose the console?

For you or I we would choose the console because we are hardcore gamers who prefer physical controls. But we are now the vast minority. Sales of smartphones/tablets/touchscreen monitors/sensor technology etc proove that.

Phones have the ability to change things yearly such as the processor etc where as consoles don't. Look at the Google Nexus Galaxy. It has an HD screen and super fast processor. The speed at which these things are upgraded makes handhelds look out of date fast. Last year you could play GTA3 on your phone, whats to say next year you wouldn't be able to play GTA4?

So i think saying they are not a threat is quite laughable when you see sales of them destroy consoles. Iphone 4s sold over 17m in under 3 months. Samsung Galaxy s2 sold even more then that. Companies have worked out gaming on phones is a potential bigger industry. You might not like it, i deffinatly don't like it. But burrying your head in the sand and trying to pretend it isn't as big as it is won't make it go away.

Sales of smartphones etc proove what?

In the same time the handheld market increased with DS+PSP compared to Gameboy Advance etc.,

and now 3DS had a better 1st year than DS. So what?


You fooled yourself, like this puppet on CNET.

Smartphones are here to stay, like tablets etc., but the handheld market is still growing so your logic is just plain wrong.

Comparing handheld sales to phones and then conclude handheld is dying is like burrying the sand in the head.



ninty_shareholder64 said:

Sales of smartphones etc proove what?

In the same time the handheld market increased with DS+PSP compared to Gameboy Advance etc.,

and now 3DS had a better 1st year than DS. So what?


You fooled yourself, like this puppet on CNET.

Smartphones are here to stay, like tablets etc., but the handheld market is still growing so your logic is just plain wrong.

Comparing handheld sales to phones and then conclude handheld is dying is like burrying the sand in the head.

That's the key here. PCs can do more than consoles, but people continue to buy them in greater numbers. Coexistance is the point here



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