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MrT-Tar said:
Carl2291 said:

Saw this post on GAF -
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The lowest cost you can get into a Vita for , with one game is (using RRP) :

Wifi model : 24800 yen
+
4 GB card : 2200 yen
+
Dark Quest : 2800 yen

= 29,800 yen

ALTERNATIVELY, you can get the following :

3DS : 15,000 yen
+
Mario Land : 4,800 yen
+
Mario Kart 7 : 4,800 yen
+
Monster Hunter Tri G : 5,800 yen

= 30,400 yen


Just let that sink in a bit....
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Kinda points out a huge part of the Vita problem.

Quoted for truth, more people need to see this.

Vgchartz in 2007 in an typical NPD thread: ' Ofcourse X360 sells more it cost 350$ while an PS3 cost 599$ wait till the PS3 is the same price as an X360 then we will see some numbers'....in 2011 people still laugh about comments made in 2007.

Anway in 2012/2013 when the Ps vita price is very close or the same as 3DS it probably will still be outsold and we will have to read threads where fanboys will quote you two with the purpose to show how Sony fanboys are idiots....All you two did with that post is feeding the trolls and considering I am tired of all those fanboys shit going on and mods like montana have stated  that they want to have more intelligent and mature discussions I report you two.  You both are not new on the forums and how you don't see the lack of software is the cause of the horrible salesdrop...well I don't get it...you may have an opinion but an opinion that has to effect every sony fan negative on this forum? well don't understand why sony fans who try hard to post  posts that make sense and want have a good time have to accept that they will be laughed at because of you two ..

If you want to defend the Vita then try harder and post something that is obvious it is not hard something like:

"OMG VITA BROKE A NEW record  More than 70k sold and no software title in the top 35 no console or handheld did that before...."  it is that simple..



 

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gameonbro said:
sales2099 said:
3DS beating Vita by a wide margin.....but i didnt expect the PSP to beat the Vita. Not to mention Vita software has no holiday legs.

Sony is learning the hard way (again) that giving the competition head starts = bad.


not all has to do with competition.  alot of it has to do with the games.  mario =>>>>> drake.  zelda monster honster sony cant compete with that.  even if vita and 3ds came out together 3ds wins.  just like ps3 and xbox.  ps3 is beating the xbox in the world not because of blu-ray(it help)  but because microsoft is dying in the game dept.  the us is more trendy that why people love the kinect and still buy wii.

i have a ps3 but have 0 blu-ray movies.

This isnt the proper forum but just want to put out there that PS3 isnt beating xbox in the world. This very site we are on still shows 360 having a global lead. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

01./03. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 260.836 / 1.050.706 (+43%)
20./21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008-04-10} - 43,752 / 3,428,903
42./00. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08}

Has something similar ever happened?



Wow, Super Mario 3D Land is well on its way to being the best-selling 3D Mario in Japan.



Lostplanet22 said:
MrT-Tar said:
Carl2291 said:

Saw this post on GAF -
___________________________________________________________________________

The lowest cost you can get into a Vita for , with one game is (using RRP) :

Wifi model : 24800 yen
+
4 GB card : 2200 yen
+
Dark Quest : 2800 yen

= 29,800 yen

ALTERNATIVELY, you can get the following :

3DS : 15,000 yen
+
Mario Land : 4,800 yen
+
Mario Kart 7 : 4,800 yen
+
Monster Hunter Tri G : 5,800 yen

= 30,400 yen


Just let that sink in a bit....
___________________________________________________________

Kinda points out a huge part of the Vita problem.

Quoted for truth, more people need to see this.

Vgchartz in 2007 in an typical NPD thread: ' Ofcourse X360 sells more it cost 350$ while an PS3 cost 599$ wait till the PS3 is the same price as an X360 then we will see some numbers'....in 2011 people still laugh about comments made in 2007.

Anway in 2012/2013 when the Ps vita price is very close or the same as 3DS it probably will still be outsold and we will have to read threads where fanboys will quote you two with the purpose to show how Sony fanboys are idiots....All you two did with that post is feeding the trolls and considering I am tired of all those fanboys shit going on and mods like montana have stated  that they want to have more intelligent and mature discussions I report you two.  You both are not new on the forums and how you don't see the lack of software is the cause of the horrible salesdrop...well I don't get it...you may have an opinion but an opinion that has to effect every sony fan negative on this forum? well don't understand why sony fans who try hard to post  posts that make sense and want have a good time have to accept that they will be laughed at because of you two ..

If you want to defend the Vita then try harder and post something that is obvious it is not hard something like:

"OMG VITA BROKE A NEW record  More than 70k sold and no software title in the top 35 no console or handheld did that before...."  it is that simple..

I don't think they're defending the Vita. What they both quoted just goes to show what a better value the 3ds is currently and why there is no incentive to buy a Vita (at the moment).

Nevermind that the Dark Quest/Dungeon Hunter game listed is also available from Gameloft on other devices (iOS, Android) for less.




starcraft: "I and every PS3 fanboy alive are waiting for Versus more than FFXIII.
Me since the games were revealed, the fanboys since E3."

Skeeuk: "playstation 3 is the ultimate in gaming acceleration"

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smbu2000 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
MrT-Tar said:
Carl2291 said:

Saw this post on GAF -
___________________________________________________________________________

The lowest cost you can get into a Vita for , with one game is (using RRP) :

Wifi model : 24800 yen
+
4 GB card : 2200 yen
+
Dark Quest : 2800 yen

= 29,800 yen

ALTERNATIVELY, you can get the following :

3DS : 15,000 yen
+
Mario Land : 4,800 yen
+
Mario Kart 7 : 4,800 yen
+
Monster Hunter Tri G : 5,800 yen

= 30,400 yen


Just let that sink in a bit....
___________________________________________________________

Kinda points out a huge part of the Vita problem.

Quoted for truth, more people need to see this.

Vgchartz in 2007 in an typical NPD thread: ' Ofcourse X360 sells more it cost 350$ while an PS3 cost 599$ wait till the PS3 is the same price as an X360 then we will see some numbers'....in 2011 people still laugh about comments made in 2007.

Anway in 2012/2013 when the Ps vita price is very close or the same as 3DS it probably will still be outsold and we will have to read threads where fanboys will quote you two with the purpose to show how Sony fanboys are idiots....All you two did with that post is feeding the trolls and considering I am tired of all those fanboys shit going on and mods like montana have stated  that they want to have more intelligent and mature discussions I report you two.  You both are not new on the forums and how you don't see the lack of software is the cause of the horrible salesdrop...well I don't get it...you may have an opinion but an opinion that has to effect every sony fan negative on this forum? well don't understand why sony fans who try hard to post  posts that make sense and want have a good time have to accept that they will be laughed at because of you two ..

If you want to defend the Vita then try harder and post something that is obvious it is not hard something like:

"OMG VITA BROKE A NEW record  More than 70k sold and no software title in the top 35 no console or handheld did that before...."  it is that simple..

I don't think they're defending the Vita. What they both quoted just goes to show what a better value the 3ds is currently and why there is no incentive to buy a Vita (at the moment).

Nevermind that the Dark Quest/Dungeon Hunter game listed is also available from Gameloft on other devices (iOS, Android) for less.

agreed smbu, I quoted Carl as well, but I wasn't trying to defend the Vita, I'm merely saying as to why the 3DS is selling so well



Lostplanet22 said:

Vgchartz in 2007 in an typical NPD thread: ' Ofcourse X360 sells more it cost 350$ while an PS3 cost 599$ wait till the PS3 is the same price as an X360 then we will see some numbers'....in 2011 people still laugh about comments made in 2007.

Anway in 2012/2013 when the Ps vita price is very close or the same as 3DS it probably will still be outsold and we will have to read threads where fanboys will quote you two with the purpose to show how Sony fanboys are idiots....All you two did with that post is feeding the trolls and considering I am tired of all those fanboys shit going on and mods like montana have stated  that they want to have more intelligent and mature discussions I report you two.  You both are not new on the forums and how you don't see the lack of software is the cause of the horrible salesdrop...well I don't get it...you may have an opinion but an opinion that has to effect every sony fan negative on this forum? well don't understand why sony fans who try hard to post  posts that make sense and want have a good time have to accept that they will be laughed at because of you two ..

If you want to defend the Vita then try harder and post something that is obvious it is not hard something like:

"OMG VITA BROKE A NEW record  More than 70k sold and no software title in the top 35 no console or handheld did that before...."  it is that simple..

I honestly never thought I would see the day that someone would imply I was a Sony fanboy, given my history of being rather Nintendo inclined (despite owning a few Sony systems).  lol, I've owned a 3DS since PAL launch and don't plan of getting a PSV in the short, medium or quite possibly even the long term.

Anyway, I agree with you that lack of 'appealing' software is the cause for these disapointing sales.  I thought the gaf post perfectly illustrates the level of price difference and it being one of many factors behind the PSV's uphill struggle against the 3DS at the moment.  I did at not one point state, or want for people to infer that I think price is the sole factor for these sales.




Something I just remembered me saying to someone in this thread earlier and that was if Vita launched later with more software it would have sold more but ultimately it wouldn't have benefited Sony. I think that applies to these numbers as well. Vita has alot of games coming and when they come out the sales should pick up a bit, it won't be able to compete directly with 3DS for awhile but ultimately this is all irrelevent as Vita will be getting alot of good games that people and wantand I don't see how releasing before then will hurt it.

sales2099 said:
This isnt the proper forum but just want to put out there that PS3 isnt beating xbox in the world. This very site we are on still shows 360 having a global lead. 

Didn't the last fiscal report show ps3 in the lead?



Alright everyone.

I realize that the Vita's sales are lower than many might have expected. That doesn't mean this thread is an opportunity to troll and flamebait. Just know that any inappropriate behavior in this thread from now on will be taken much more seriously.



 

 

ZaneWane said:
Turkish said:
PS3 and PSP doing great, Sony domination! 3DS did a similar release when it was as expensive as the Vita. You will see sales kicking once everything said and done!

please tell me that was sarcasm

If the sample was all sony products then yes.  If it encompasses nintendo and Sony...well not so much