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Xenoblade Chronicles preorders are already at 70,000! Other Operation Rainfall games Coming to America now? <Update> Almost 200,000 now! How close were you? ;)

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lewisgerm said:

lewisgerm said:


there is no way i would change my mind about this. the wii is the best console and i want all the best games for it. i always buy my wii games new on purpose so i can give the money to the developer. in fact, when i used to work at gamestop i used to try to get the customers to buy all the wii games new and all the 360/ps3 games used. i was pretty good at it.

 

if they brought up a newly released used wii game i would just say, 'well for five dollars more you can get a new copy, want to just do that?' similarly if they brought up a new copy of a newly released 360/ps3 game, i would just tell them, 'well for five dollars less, you could just get a used copy and you even have a seven day warranty if you dont like it.'

it was awesome. so yes, you dont have to worry about me, my money is going to nintendo on this one.

 


well excuse me for trying to utilize the tiniest bit of influence i have over the industry.

look, torillian, your set of values is a little different than mine, but that doesn't mean yours is right. microsoft and sony are nothing but LEECHES on this industry. they in no way care about the consumer as evidenced by their support of things like online pass and now locking out single player content for people who buy the game used is an ALL TIME LOW.

so, yes, i am going to try to screw these developers out of every new sale that i can. its the right thing to do.


I like the irony here, the reason online passes have come into existence is because of used game sales, and here you are going out of your way to make the PS3/360 get more used sales....



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@flaags

Also to add to how amazing it is this game has been out for a long time, and illegally downloaded over a million times. Pretty good numbers indeed!



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spurgeonryan said:
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Where is here at? Do you have actual game stores where you are at?


Costa Rica. Yes, there are several game stores, but unless the game is mario, zelda, COD or PES/Fifa good luck finding any other game... And games cost between $60 to $80 average... 



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KylieDog said:
lewisgerm said:

lewisgerm said:


there is no way i would change my mind about this. the wii is the best console and i want all the best games for it. i always buy my wii games new on purpose so i can give the money to the developer. in fact, when i used to work at gamestop i used to try to get the customers to buy all the wii games new and all the 360/ps3 games used. i was pretty good at it.

 

if they brought up a newly released used wii game i would just say, 'well for five dollars more you can get a new copy, want to just do that?' similarly if they brought up a new copy of a newly released 360/ps3 game, i would just tell them, 'well for five dollars less, you could just get a used copy and you even have a seven day warranty if you dont like it.'

it was awesome. so yes, you dont have to worry about me, my money is going to nintendo on this one.

 


well excuse me for trying to utilize the tiniest bit of influence i have over the industry.

look, torillian, your set of values is a little different than mine, but that doesn't mean yours is right. microsoft and sony are nothing but LEECHES on this industry. they in no way care about the consumer as evidenced by their support of things like online pass and now locking out single player content for people who buy the game used is an ALL TIME LOW.

so, yes, i am going to try to screw these developers out of every new sale that i can. its the right thing to do.


I like the irony here, the reason online passes have come into existence is because of used game sales, and here you are going out of your way to make the PS3/360 get more used sales....


ah, i see that you believe it is used game sales that have brought online pass into existence, but this isnt so. many developers think that used game sales are killing their sales, so they try to take some measure against that, this is true, but the real thing that has brought online pass into existence is the internet and our consoles being so closely tied to it. it is seen as a new avenue to screw us over, which is very sad. :(

the fact is that the used game market and the new game market have been rising side by side in a very cohesive way for the past 20 to 30 years. so the used market has never been killing the new. i dont see why it would all the sudden now. if anything the used market stimulates the new. think of how many people across the world who trade in their games to get a new one because they dont have enough money, or they want to save some money. used games stimulate new sales. used games have never been a detriment to any developer, and if they have you believing that the used market is some sort of threat, then they have you completely fooled.



Wait until you see how many people are going to pirate this...

The lack of sales will give NOA a reason to never bring a game like this over again.  :(



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The game has already been pirated about 1 million times in 2011 alone!



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Yes, the game was pirated 1 million times, but that doesn't mean 1 million people downloaded it and played it illegally.
There is a (tiny) percent that bought the game and then played on Dolphin because they didn't want to mod their Wii's and the fact that sometimes same user do multiple downloads, be it for corrupted data or cancel the download or for the sake of it.But yeah, it was heavily pirated anyway.
As for me, I bought a PAL copy and softmodded my wii to play it, and let me tell you is my 3rd best game of all time, is THAT good.

Also, I don't think Nintendo only ports from PAL to NTSC , I saw a trailer in the Operation Rainfall facebook page and the voice of Shulk was definetely not british so I'm sure they are doing all the voices again so that would explain why the game releases on April



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shadowii said:
once again we americans eats what only does alright in the rest of the world


This will be great! Plus it is not only about the game I think. Depending on how good this does is a mirror or could be a mirror of how good the Wii is the rest of the year in America and maybe even Europe. I do not know what else is on for Japan other than Maybe Mario Part 1000 and Dragon Quest, but in America I am pretty sure that we have nothing but shovelware and a few other small games to look forward to. if this does well nintendo could push out other imported games for us to feast on throughout the year up until Christmas time, or December 21st. ;)

 

Reggie did say that they would be supporting the Wii still. If there are really no games from Nintendo on the horizon for the Wii other than Mario Party, then they have to support it in some other way. Price is about as low as it can go I think for now. Maybe 79.99 next Christmas or something like that. Bundles can still be reduced as I think some are still 129.99-149.99.

 

What do you think about that?



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lewisgerm said:
KylieDog said:
lewisgerm said:

lewisgerm said:


there is no way i would change my mind about this. the wii is the best console and i want all the best games for it. i always buy my wii games new on purpose so i can give the money to the developer. in fact, when i used to work at gamestop i used to try to get the customers to buy all the wii games new and all the 360/ps3 games used. i was pretty good at it.

 

if they brought up a newly released used wii game i would just say, 'well for five dollars more you can get a new copy, want to just do that?' similarly if they brought up a new copy of a newly released 360/ps3 game, i would just tell them, 'well for five dollars less, you could just get a used copy and you even have a seven day warranty if you dont like it.'

it was awesome. so yes, you dont have to worry about me, my money is going to nintendo on this one.

 


well excuse me for trying to utilize the tiniest bit of influence i have over the industry.

look, torillian, your set of values is a little different than mine, but that doesn't mean yours is right. microsoft and sony are nothing but LEECHES on this industry. they in no way care about the consumer as evidenced by their support of things like online pass and now locking out single player content for people who buy the game used is an ALL TIME LOW.

so, yes, i am going to try to screw these developers out of every new sale that i can. its the right thing to do.


I like the irony here, the reason online passes have come into existence is because of used game sales, and here you are going out of your way to make the PS3/360 get more used sales....


ah, i see that you believe it is used game sales that have brought online pass into existence, but this isnt so. many developers think that used game sales are killing their sales, so they try to take some measure against that, this is true, but the real thing that has brought online pass into existence is the internet and our consoles being so closely tied to it. it is seen as a new avenue to screw us over, which is very sad. :(

the fact is that the used game market and the new game market have been rising side by side in a very cohesive way for the past 20 to 30 years. so the used market has never been killing the new. i dont see why it would all the sudden now. if anything the used market stimulates the new. think of how many people across the world who trade in their games to get a new one because they dont have enough money, or they want to save some money. used games stimulate new sales. used games have never been a detriment to any developer, and if they have you believing that the used market is some sort of threat, then they have you completely fooled.


The used market was never as damaging as it is now.  For one thing console games never used to have online parts so no online cost was involved for the dev after-sale.  For games with dedicated servers this is especially expensive when people start buying used.  Used games used to be a lot cheaper than new ones also and didn't take from new sales, selections of used games in stores was a lot smaller.  People buying used weren't paying near a new sale price and in most cases they would need buy new since not many used copies about.  Since Gamestop and similar have started doing used games though the price for used games has rocketed and is as good a price as a new copy almost, this steals from new sales being so close since if people will pay $55 they would pay $60 if the used one was not there, you can find used copies of pretty much every game nowdays too, even release week is flooded with them.



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