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Slimebeast on 29 December 2011

2012 is all about multiplatforms. Nearly all developers of exclusive games have turned their focus on next gen.



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Slimebeast on 29 December 2011

2012 is all about multiplatforms. Nearly all developers of exclusive games have turned their focus on next gen.



AbbathTheGrim on 29 December 2011

GOW2 is called the swangsong of the PS2, wouldn't be surprised if the fourth is the same for the PS3.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

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sales2099 on 29 December 2011
Aldro said:
PS3 had 3 AAA exclusives this year according to Sales2099:
Shadow of the Colossus & Ico.

Hell thats 2 games, = 4 AAA :)

So much for brand name, I recall Halo remake not even achieving 85 meta.

No argument here. PS3 had some good AAA games.

But thats strictly quality speaking. Brand name recognition/sales of those games is another story. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 29 December 2011
DarkDesent666 said:
sales2099 said:I love this post. This is the type of mentality I like to see. 

Well Joe Danger has extra content for 360 (was not grouped with the ps3 version), as well as UFC PS3 was below a 70 on metacritic where as the 360 version made the cut. Just wanna clear that up. 

A = 70-79. AA = 80-89. AAA = 90+ (On metacritic). That whole list is made up of games that fall within a certain level of inherent quality. To say they are "crap" says a lot about yourself as your clearly ignoring the critical acclaim each game has. 

Then what I love here is that you took the list I had and stripped it down to fit your mentality of 360 inferiority. I don't understand why you took out some games.....they are all quality games, multiplat or exclusive. But they are all NOT on PS3. This is a 360 vs PS3 debate, so I feel that 360 multiplats without a PS3 version deserve merit. 

To say all Kinect exclusives are "crap" again just means that they "aren't your taste". They are still quality games and they appeal to different people then you. Accept that. 

As for 2012, Halo 4 is the front runner. It is a AAA franchise with pop culture phenom status, tons of real world relevance. PS3 has in 2012....Starhawk, Twisted Metal, Sly Cooper, Dust 514.....oh wait nevermind it has a PC version so im sure PS3 gamers will shun it for not being an exclusive (snarky joke to complement your mindset). 

I wonder if any of those 2012 PS3 exclusives have any brand name recognition on the level of Halo 4.......this is a rhetorical statement. Since PS3 has no Halo level names in 2012 I could argue that PS3 has a weak lineup. Exclusives are nice but what good are they if A. Nobody heard of it and B. Nobody cares. 

And to say that 360 has a weak lineup like always really makes me smile....as its "weak lineup" hasnt stopped it from holding 2nd place to PS3s 3rd. 

Sigh where to start you said none of the games were on ps3 yet you listed two that were despite your arguements they had no place on that list, nor do games from ages ago that got a quick easy port to 360. 

Also no, if you base the game on merits not reviewers influenced by hype and incentives from the company (which could be as bad as straight up under the table cash in some cases) none of those kinect games are any good with the possible exception of the seasome street game. 

Also Dust 514 doesn't have a pc version, there is a pc game liked to it but they are completely different games (not even same genre) do some research.

Halo original might have been worth that but halo has bene milked to hell and losing quality and living on hype and advertisement for awhile now, 4 won't be any better most likely worse. 

Advertisement=brand reconition not quality. 

Which is just sad on the consumers part. How many games not avaliable on ps3 did you buy in the last 3 years? People are just pathetic drones buying whatever crap is advertised the most it's just so sad. All this arguement and you haven't once argued the merits of any of the games, what does that tell you? Also something I forgot to point out in my first reply, I originally said does MS really have any games for 2012 not does the 360, I meant to point it out but forgot. 

Again, Joe Danger had extra content and UFC 360 only made it above 70. Exceptions to the rule like anything but worth mentioning none the less. 

It shouldnt matter if some games were from "ages ago" or "easy ports". Quality 360 game, Not on PS3, its in. Simple. 

"Influenced by hype and incentives". This made me lol. Yes its all an anti Sony world out there or is it a MS conspiracy? Maybe both? LOL. Each game scored well on their own merits. Dont act like reviewers arent influenced by hype when writing reviews for PS3 exclusives like Uncharted 3. Door swings both ways. 

Every major Halo release gets above 90. Spinoffs, expansions, and now remakes get above 80. Id say thats a damn good franchise. I say MILK AWAY if the milk tastes this damn good :). I suspect jealousy since no PS3 IP can touch a major Halo FPS sales and brand recognition, not to mention pop culture phenom status.You do realize that Halo 4 will be different from the previous entries, mainly your not fighting the Covenant? This alone will give the series a frssh feel, reviewers will love this. 

Advertisement=brand reconition not quality. Couldnt agree more. A-AAA is quality. If a game gets both down, thats amazing to hear. But make no mistake....Brand recognition > quality. On a gaming forum this statement is controversial but my point is quality doesnt mean much if people just arent interested. Like a piece of quality produce at a grocery store that wilts cause nobody bought it when it was at its best. Im afraid this will be the case with most if not all PS3 2012 exclusives. 

I havent argued the merits of these games? What do you think the list was? A-AAA games that scored in the 70s, 80s and 90s on metacritic. If that isnt arguing merit of a game then I dont know what does. If anything your the one who ignores quality of those games with stupid excuses like  they are old, kinect based, or ports. Gimme a break. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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Tridrakious on 29 December 2011
sales2099 said:
Aldro said:
PS3 had 3 AAA exclusives this year according to Sales2099:
Shadow of the Colossus & Ico.

Hell thats 2 games, = 4 AAA :)

So much for brand name, I recall Halo remake not even achieving 85 meta.

No argument here. PS3 had some good AAA games.

But thats strictly quality speaking. Brand name recognition/sales of those games is another story. 

You keep changing or moving the goal posts on the debate of quality.



sales2099 on 29 December 2011
Tridrakious said:
sales2099 said:
Aldro said:
PS3 had 3 AAA exclusives this year according to Sales2099:
Shadow of the Colossus & Ico.

Hell thats 2 games, = 4 AAA :)

So much for brand name, I recall Halo remake not even achieving 85 meta.

No argument here. PS3 had some good AAA games.

But thats strictly quality speaking. Brand name recognition/sales of those games is another story. 

You keep changing or moving the goal posts on the debate of quality.

oh? A-AAA scoring of a game determines quality to me. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Tridrakious on 29 December 2011
sales2099 said:
Tridrakious said:
sales2099 said:
Aldro said:
PS3 had 3 AAA exclusives this year according to Sales2099:
Shadow of the Colossus & Ico.

Hell thats 2 games, = 4 AAA :)

So much for brand name, I recall Halo remake not even achieving 85 meta.

No argument here. PS3 had some good AAA games.

But thats strictly quality speaking. Brand name recognition/sales of those games is another story. 

You keep changing or moving the goal posts on the debate of quality.

oh? A-AAA scoring of a game determines quality to me. 


You've jumped from:

QUALITY to EXCLUSIVES to SALES to YOUR OPINION to BRAND RECOGNITION.

As for 2012 we can't base how the systems will do quality wise, because the games aren't out yet.



Boutros on 29 December 2011

What I learned from this thread is that most of you guys don't realize that AAA pertains to budget and not quality...

For example, Homefront was touted as being a AAA title because it had a massive budget and THQ invested many ressources on the title. It ended up being a so-so game but it is still considered a AAA title.



Stefan.De.Machtige on 29 December 2011
Boutros said:
What I learned from this thread is that most of you guys don't realize that AAA pertains to budget and not quality...

For example, Homefront was touted as being a AAA title because it had a massive budget and THQ invested many ressources on the title. It ended up being a so-so game but it is still considered a AAA title.

I'm afraid you're applying logics where there is none.

The definition of "AAA" => fill in the blank to suit ones opinion.



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