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godf said:
If the wii didn't have mario, you could definatly claim it had a weak lineup.

Isn't that kinda like saying if my TV didn't have a plug it wouldn't work?

 



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what is a plastation anyway??



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The PS3 has the best variety, which is one advantage it has. This is why third party developers always chose the Playstation brand. First party sells on Nintendo platforms, unless its Mario related or a "non-game".

Shooters, and the must sell games (Rock Band, GTA, Madden, etc.) sell on the 360.

As far as developement costs go, its just a result of bigger, more complicated games. As gaming improves, so will developement costs. Its not the PS3's fault, but the fact that they are leaving room for vast improvements in gaming rather than ease to get games out quickly shows that Sony cares about gamings future. The Xbox360 just wants to get a foothold to put 360's in households to push its "live everywhere" campaign. At first its easier, so better games come out, but it hit its peak in under 3 years.

And to cut developement costs, in-game advertisements needs to happen. Its a simple solution, and I'm amazed it has taken so long to implement. Gaming is getting bigger and bigger, and people spend more time with games than they would with TV shows or movies. Could you imagine a pepsi or gamefly advertisement during every load screen? It would make them money, and make developers money. It needs to happen soon to support rising development costs.



@OP: Neither, imo.



I think they both have games.

My only problem with the PS3 is i don't have a lot of interest in there mid to low rated games. Which is an odd thing to say, but usually i get more enjoyment out of games that seem like hidden gems.

Even Dynasty Warriors Gundam was ridiculiously easy in the demo, i gotta assume the demo was on the easiest diffculty that you could pump up.

Other then that game there isn't anything i'd touch in the playstations lineup rated in the yellow rankings so far.



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twesterm said:
MrMe said:
boilermaker11 said:

(I tried to keep it to games WORTH mentioning.....none of that Carnival Games crap).


I don't think you fully understand the Wii's success.........


A lot of people fail to realize the importance of games like Carnival Games, Mario Party, Shrek III, Cars, and all those other games silly people call shovel ware or waste of time. Those games always do very well because kids eat them up and parents know they're safe.

I spent Christmas with my niece and nephews who range from 16 months to 7 years old and they loved silly games like that. I think the one they liked the most was some Dora the Explorer game (or sometihng similar to that). It was one of those game I would never touch but to kids they are like Super Mario Galaxy.


 Eh, I still want Carnival games.  I think people who complain about "mini-game crap" take themselves and games way too seriously.  The Skeeball places by me have all shut down.  Freakin sucks unless i want to go to Chuckie Cheese and hang out with a bunch of 5 year olds.

Me I like every kind of game except Racing.  It's not that I hate racing either, it's just racing games haven't really improved for me outside of graphics since freakin Pole Position on the Atari... and joypads and joystics suck compared to the Atari big stick for racing games.  Wheel attach ons are kinda lame and don't really give me the kind of 1 to 1 reaction i'd want as if i was driving the car.

May still pick up GT5 when i get a PS3 just because it's been so long.  Or i'll just play pole position, come to think of it my Atari is hooked up. Just gotta hope that cart works.  Been focusing too much on games like Commando and Tank.



boilermaker11 said:
 
Go back to 2001, maybe 2000, and look at all the complaints against the PS2. BUT, if what you say is true, and devs start to take full advantage of the PS3, and produce games that can ONLY be played on PS3, how do you think that will appeal to other developers? As successful as the 360, every game on there COULD be programmed for PS3. But if the PS3 was the system that could only have certain games + multiplatforms (with 360 being the lowest common denominator between the two) then how is that a bad strategy?

 It's a bad strategy because developers are saying, "Screw you Sony," and writing their games with standard techniques. In other words, they're NOT writing their games to take advantage of 8 separate processing cores. The reason PS3 equivalents of games like Orange Box, Madden and others look worse on PS3 than 360 is because developers aren't taking the time and money to go back and rewrite all of their games to support multiple processors. And when you DON'T do that, you end up with PS3 versions that can't quite keep up with the 360 versions.

This isn't anything like the PS2 versus the XBox, or any other generation for that matter. If you are a programmer, you realize there are extremely different techniques required for writing algorithms that really take advantage of multiple processors. And it would seem a lot of developers are just blowing it off and programming for the PS3 as if it's a single processor system. You can do it, but your games can't compete with the 360 equivalents when you do. Do the developers care about that? Not as long as the PS3 doesn't command a 70% market share. They won't make enough extra money by rewriting their games for PS3.

It's also a bad strategy simply because it turns the game publishers against you. They don't like being pinned to one system when their market is split across several systems. Sony got greedy, and now they're paying for it.



Jandre02 said:
The PS3 has the best variety, which is one advantage it has. This is why third party developers always chose the Playstation brand. First party sells on Nintendo platforms, unless its Mario related or a "non-game".

Shooters, and the must sell games (Rock Band, GTA, Madden, etc.) sell on the 360.

As far as developement costs go, its just a result of bigger, more complicated games. As gaming improves, so will developement costs. Its not the PS3's fault, but the fact that they are leaving room for vast improvements in gaming rather than ease to get games out quickly shows that Sony cares about gamings future. The Xbox360 just wants to get a foothold to put 360's in households to push its "live everywhere" campaign. At first its easier, so better games come out, but it hit its peak in under 3 years.

And to cut developement costs, in-game advertisements needs to happen. Its a simple solution, and I'm amazed it has taken so long to implement. Gaming is getting bigger and bigger, and people spend more time with games than they would with TV shows or movies. Could you imagine a pepsi or gamefly advertisement during every load screen? It would make them money, and make developers money. It needs to happen soon to support rising development costs.

See I see the Wii as having more variety in genre, looking at the green PS3 games gets me a lot of sports games, a lot of racing games and a lot of shooting games, a lot of fighting games, and singstar.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

And world series of poker? How in gods green earth did a poker game get a rating over 50%? All poker games suuuck. Really all poker sucks unless your playing for money because people just won't take it seriously or play with any urgency or skill.



according to globster2000, wii and xbox360 sell about equal, provided that xbox360 is out for 1 year more than wii.....

also, ps3 has sold a bit bad..... :(
in software.......ps3 needs better titles, wii is okay.....where game list gets better by time

also, not many new super xbox360 games...mayby they are out of ideas.... ;p



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youjiro said:
Auron said:
360 has no games and that's a fact.

not sure if youre being sarcastic or just stupid but the xbox has a great line up.... jus got mine a couple of days ago and have decided to spent a nice little proportion of my student loan on various games! due to ownership of all 3 consoles i dnt think i will have a life in 08 and will probably fail my degree... life is harsh

That is very very stupid to use a student loan to buy games and a console.   Be careful with spending that loan money while in college.  If you borrow too much, make a payment on your loan to get that cost down before you graduate.   I learned the hard way by borrowing to pay for living costs when I should have worked and now have ot pay over $800 a month on my loan payments.



 


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