@rocketpig:
READ my second post in this thread.

I really don`t understand, what people are arguing about?
I STATED FACTS, NOTHING MORE.

@azrm2k:
it`s PS2 problemm, that they didn`t startd WW at same time. So much as PS3 problem, that they had 4 month delay in europe.
ONLY sales from system LAUNCH matter.

BUT shipping less then sold per year IS A FAILURE.

p.s.
PSone:
Sony Mar-1997 - 13.50 mln.
Sony Mar-1998 - 32.82 mln.
Sony Mar-1999 - 54.42 mln.

PS2:
Sony Mar-2001 - 10.61 mln.
Sony Mar-2002 - 28.68 mln.
Sony Mar-2003 - 51.20 mln.

DO YOU SEE similarity, likeness, resemblance?
HINT: PSone and PS2 each sold over 100 mln. consoles.

*facepalm*

I clearly pointed out to you that nobody believed the 360 would have such sales but 100 million WW sales isn't neccessary to be successful.  If the 360 sells just 50 to 60 million and keeps the PS3 below 60 or 70 gaining tremendous marketshare in the process from the previous generation it should be considered a success for Microsoft.

You completely ignored my convoluted statistic and kept on blabbing about yours.

The more and more you post like this I'm inclined to believe you're something of a joke account meant to mock fanboys in general.  Continually typing Microsoft as M$.  The DMC topic where you state "M$" paid off Capcom to make DMC "worse" on the PS3.

Crazzy what the hell?... Sony shipped less than they sold for PS3 between April and September, does that make PS3 a failure?

shipments CANNOT be consistently higher than sales because that would just lead to a build up of stock, this is especially true when a system is severely overstocked like 360 for Sept-Dec 2006.... or on a slightly smaller scale like PS3 was last year [Sony shipped too many Nov 2006-March 2007, and shipped less than sold for the next two quarters]

What I want to know, is who keeps unbanning him.

That's just it:

Shipping less than sold is NOT a failure when it's a market correction from a error in the previous holiday season. 

2 day ban enforced for trying to use circular logic arguments, flame, and just pointlessly debate for no real reason.

Crazzy - how about you stop posting anti-X360 junk all of the time, so you can actually stay on the forums?

Crazzyman, you live up to your name I suppose.

Look at it like this, shipped just measures supply, and it really isn't as meaningful as you are making it out to be. By your logic, if GM pushed out 40mil cars in 2008 it would be their best year ever right? Wrong, all that matters is sold to consumers. Retailers overestimated 360 sales, and order too many, thus creating a healthy stockpile. The market corrected the suppply issue for 2007, resulting in the shipped numbers you are talking about.

Furthermore, the increase isn't a fair comparison. Taking a year of no compitition, and comparing it to a year of extreme competition isn't really a good analysis. I think that increasing sales from a no competition to a high competition year could be a good sign. However, 2008 will be a much more meaningful year.

Finally, stop using M$, do you think you are clever and unique? as if $ony isn't trying to make moeny? as though $ony puts the consumer above their bottome line?? All companies care about money, most of them to a very very large degree, they all have to to survive a competitive business environment.

If you still don't understand, then I fear there may be no hope for you.

Not me. I only temp banned him once in hopes that he might pull his head out of his ass.

We all see how well that worked out. 

This guy's been banned at least twice before.  Third offense is supposed to be a perma-ban but I'll extend it to just 30 days. ;>

360 has USA sony has every other market so its cool