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Michael-5 said:
Aldro said:

Lets take a look at the MS exclusives.. (do note that I don't consider PC/360 as exclusives).

(Must have easily missed a few^)

As for the whole 2011 or what you said about speculations part, Like i said: Its merely speculations. But I will be bumping this topic once they get confirmed :D. I cannot believe ND worked on two games while Santa monica has.. been helping with one lol.

You missed a lot, and I consider PC/360 still a 360 exclusive because a gaming PC cost more then all 3 consoles combined. If it's published by Microsoft, and only available on Microsoft platforms it's exclusive to MS devices. Not going to go too much into MS, but you missed Halo CEA, Dance Central 1 and 2 (which are fun, who cares if it's casual, I see no difference in audience from LBP), Kinect Sports, Crackdown, and about 5 great 360/PC games off the top of my head  all I said is "Microsoft is doing only about as well" but people love to make a point. For 2012 there is Halo 4, Ryse, Fable, Dungeon Hero, and Kinect Star Wars.

Anyway, my point was 2012 looks dry on on consoles, PS3 really needed the last of us, and The Last Guardian was delayed twice, once only two months before release, so I have no faith in that game releasing in 2012.

I see much less innovation in software then I did in 2007-2011.


twisted metal, starhawk, sly cooper 4, dust 514, the last of us, the journey, yakuza, the last guardian ( i'm sure i'm missing games here ) etc are all confirmed for 2012 i don't really see how thats a dry lineup



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ps3 is the best console to play games on, it will always have quality exclusives and always have most quantity of games to play

thank god i chose ps3 as my lead console from the beginning



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ElGranCabeza said:
Aldro said:

Lets take a look at the MS exclusives.. (do note that I don't consider PC/360 as exclusives).


2008:
Gears 2

2009:
Forza 3
Halo ODST
Halo wars

2010:
Alan wake
Halo reach

2011:
Gears 3
Forza 4

 

(Must have easily missed a few^)


It's mostly games that are sequels, and coming after the game has already launched once n the platform.

The last guardian, team ico has yet to release an actual game on the PS3, thats why its taking so long.

Naughty dog has been spot on with Uncharted 2 & 3.

Killzone 2 was the first to launch, spot on with 3.

LBP2 was delayed just like Gears 3 was.. nothing really omfg about that.

GT5 once again first game to launch (minus prolouge) unlike Forza that has had 3 games over the course of GT5. PD are just slow ill give ya that, they put too much content into their game and Turn 10 are even bigger than they are in terms of people working there lol.

Thing is, when you have not established a franchise yet, you will make a big deal out of it way before. Alan wake comes to mind.

But when you have a brand like Halo Gears Forza, after the very first iterations, theres no need to have a 5 year ass : Yeaah man its coming.

Even Sony follows that. Only difference is: Sony is putting out so much more and a lot of it is actually new (not to mention they started getting the games quite late, so they had to promote something in the early years).

Yes you can find black sheeps within the Sony first party that might take longer (Team Ico & PD) but theres no chance that the majority of the Sony exclusives once already landed, will come out within a reasonable time frame. And that majority just might be 2 or 3x the size of Microsofts so it is not nearly as noticeable.

I'm a gamer and I love to be excited over games and I do have a nice shair of patience, especially since im being spoiled with so many games. Go ahead and announce shit already now if you're gonna release it 5 years: I dont give a fuck! I love it! XD

As for the whole 2011 or what you said about speculations part, Like i said: Its merely speculations. But I will be bumping this topic once they get confirmed :D. I cannot believe ND worked on two games while Santa monica has.. been helping with one lol.

You missed a lot, but different strokes for different folks. MS approach definitely works, maybe even better than Sony as they get all 3rd party games on their system, oftentimes the superior version, and usually have some exclusive DLC to make people more interested in buying that  version of the game. People don't understand that having a huge amount of 1st party studios is a huge risk. If the studio does not deliver then you're making money. You have to pay for contractors and employees, life insurance, 401k, employee events, etc etc. You also have to pay for regular business expenses like equipment, building rentals, electricity, cleaning, etc etc. It's a major expense, yes, if MS bought Epic then Gears would be exclusive forever and they wouldn't have to keep paying Epic to keep the franchise exclusive, but how many "Gears" are out there? Fortnite looks like a bomb in the making unless it's an XBLA/PSN/Steam game. Just think of it this way, SP makes one game every 2 years, if they increase their size to 100 employees, they would be unprofitable and cost Sony money. As a matter of fact, that's what happened with Evolution after a couple of Motorstom games bombed. If you remember they had to lay some people off and merge them with London studios. Hopefully this new Motorstorm for PSN is better and sells better.

 

MS approach is definitely a safer approach than Sony,  Sony's approach = high risk, high reward, but they haven't gotten rewarded yet, even with all this talent and 1st party they haven't gotten a game that sells as much as, say, Halo, or even Gears.


is microsofts approach is safer, then what approach would you prefer having more choice on the shelfs or less choice, id prefer sonys approach simply because theres more games to choose from



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Skeeuk said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Aldro said:

Lets take a look at the MS exclusives.. (do note that I don't consider PC/360 as exclusives).


2008:
Gears 2

2009:
Forza 3
Halo ODST
Halo wars

2010:
Alan wake
Halo reach

2011:
Gears 3
Forza 4

 

(Must have easily missed a few^)


It's mostly games that are sequels, and coming after the game has already launched once n the platform.

The last guardian, team ico has yet to release an actual game on the PS3, thats why its taking so long.

Naughty dog has been spot on with Uncharted 2 & 3.

Killzone 2 was the first to launch, spot on with 3.

LBP2 was delayed just like Gears 3 was.. nothing really omfg about that.

GT5 once again first game to launch (minus prolouge) unlike Forza that has had 3 games over the course of GT5. PD are just slow ill give ya that, they put too much content into their game and Turn 10 are even bigger than they are in terms of people working there lol.

Thing is, when you have not established a franchise yet, you will make a big deal out of it way before. Alan wake comes to mind.

But when you have a brand like Halo Gears Forza, after the very first iterations, theres no need to have a 5 year ass : Yeaah man its coming.

Even Sony follows that. Only difference is: Sony is putting out so much more and a lot of it is actually new (not to mention they started getting the games quite late, so they had to promote something in the early years).

Yes you can find black sheeps within the Sony first party that might take longer (Team Ico & PD) but theres no chance that the majority of the Sony exclusives once already landed, will come out within a reasonable time frame. And that majority just might be 2 or 3x the size of Microsofts so it is not nearly as noticeable.

I'm a gamer and I love to be excited over games and I do have a nice shair of patience, especially since im being spoiled with so many games. Go ahead and announce shit already now if you're gonna release it 5 years: I dont give a fuck! I love it! XD

As for the whole 2011 or what you said about speculations part, Like i said: Its merely speculations. But I will be bumping this topic once they get confirmed :D. I cannot believe ND worked on two games while Santa monica has.. been helping with one lol.

You missed a lot, but different strokes for different folks. MS approach definitely works, maybe even better than Sony as they get all 3rd party games on their system, oftentimes the superior version, and usually have some exclusive DLC to make people more interested in buying that  version of the game. People don't understand that having a huge amount of 1st party studios is a huge risk. If the studio does not deliver then you're making money. You have to pay for contractors and employees, life insurance, 401k, employee events, etc etc. You also have to pay for regular business expenses like equipment, building rentals, electricity, cleaning, etc etc. It's a major expense, yes, if MS bought Epic then Gears would be exclusive forever and they wouldn't have to keep paying Epic to keep the franchise exclusive, but how many "Gears" are out there? Fortnite looks like a bomb in the making unless it's an XBLA/PSN/Steam game. Just think of it this way, SP makes one game every 2 years, if they increase their size to 100 employees, they would be unprofitable and cost Sony money. As a matter of fact, that's what happened with Evolution after a couple of Motorstom games bombed. If you remember they had to lay some people off and merge them with London studios. Hopefully this new Motorstorm for PSN is better and sells better.

 

MS approach is definitely a safer approach than Sony,  Sony's approach = high risk, high reward, but they haven't gotten rewarded yet, even with all this talent and 1st party they haven't gotten a game that sells as much as, say, Halo, or even Gears.


is microsofts approach is safer, then what approach would you prefer having more choice on the shelfs or less choice, id prefer sonys approach simply because theres more games to choose from


just what i was thinking... why the hell should i care about sony's model once they are doing well enough to continue providing content?



Aldro said:
Agree with post above me. HOWEVER I do think TLOU will actually release 2013 as its a new IP and I can fully respect ND pulling a Epic on Gears 3 by polishing it even further. Not to mention 2012 is insane already. My fanboy meter after this year.. I need a break! XD


Sony is going to need more than what they have if they intend on squeezing another 15 million (I would like to see them hit higher than 15 million) in a third consecutive fiscal year.

StarHawk, The Last Guardian and Twisted Metal will not push hardware. There might be a blip on the radar, but nothing that will sustain hardware sells.

There won't be a KillZone, LittleBigPlanet or Uncharted. So releasing a game like The Last of Us in 2011 becomes much more needed.

Plus there won't be a Ratchet or Resistance coming either.

When God of War IV gets announced that will help bolster the PS3, but won't be enough to launch PS3 numbers high enough.

Titles like Metal Gear Rising: Revengenence and Final Fantasy XIII-2 will help out overall, but again nothing that will be major. A game like Final Fantasy Versus XIII (I hope it gets a new name) would make a big splash, but it doesn't look like it will ever get the main focus of Square-Enix (unless Sony steps in to assist in development or throw funds at the game).



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o_O.Q said:
Skeeuk said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Aldro said:

Lets take a look at the MS exclusives.. (do note that I don't consider PC/360 as exclusives).


2008:
Gears 2

2009:
Forza 3
Halo ODST
Halo wars

2010:
Alan wake
Halo reach

2011:
Gears 3
Forza 4

 

(Must have easily missed a few^)


It's mostly games that are sequels, and coming after the game has already launched once n the platform.

The last guardian, team ico has yet to release an actual game on the PS3, thats why its taking so long.

Naughty dog has been spot on with Uncharted 2 & 3.

Killzone 2 was the first to launch, spot on with 3.

LBP2 was delayed just like Gears 3 was.. nothing really omfg about that.

GT5 once again first game to launch (minus prolouge) unlike Forza that has had 3 games over the course of GT5. PD are just slow ill give ya that, they put too much content into their game and Turn 10 are even bigger than they are in terms of people working there lol.

Thing is, when you have not established a franchise yet, you will make a big deal out of it way before. Alan wake comes to mind.

But when you have a brand like Halo Gears Forza, after the very first iterations, theres no need to have a 5 year ass : Yeaah man its coming.

Even Sony follows that. Only difference is: Sony is putting out so much more and a lot of it is actually new (not to mention they started getting the games quite late, so they had to promote something in the early years).

Yes you can find black sheeps within the Sony first party that might take longer (Team Ico & PD) but theres no chance that the majority of the Sony exclusives once already landed, will come out within a reasonable time frame. And that majority just might be 2 or 3x the size of Microsofts so it is not nearly as noticeable.

I'm a gamer and I love to be excited over games and I do have a nice shair of patience, especially since im being spoiled with so many games. Go ahead and announce shit already now if you're gonna release it 5 years: I dont give a fuck! I love it! XD

As for the whole 2011 or what you said about speculations part, Like i said: Its merely speculations. But I will be bumping this topic once they get confirmed :D. I cannot believe ND worked on two games while Santa monica has.. been helping with one lol.

You missed a lot, but different strokes for different folks. MS approach definitely works, maybe even better than Sony as they get all 3rd party games on their system, oftentimes the superior version, and usually have some exclusive DLC to make people more interested in buying that  version of the game. People don't understand that having a huge amount of 1st party studios is a huge risk. If the studio does not deliver then you're making money. You have to pay for contractors and employees, life insurance, 401k, employee events, etc etc. You also have to pay for regular business expenses like equipment, building rentals, electricity, cleaning, etc etc. It's a major expense, yes, if MS bought Epic then Gears would be exclusive forever and they wouldn't have to keep paying Epic to keep the franchise exclusive, but how many "Gears" are out there? Fortnite looks like a bomb in the making unless it's an XBLA/PSN/Steam game. Just think of it this way, SP makes one game every 2 years, if they increase their size to 100 employees, they would be unprofitable and cost Sony money. As a matter of fact, that's what happened with Evolution after a couple of Motorstom games bombed. If you remember they had to lay some people off and merge them with London studios. Hopefully this new Motorstorm for PSN is better and sells better.

 

MS approach is definitely a safer approach than Sony,  Sony's approach = high risk, high reward, but they haven't gotten rewarded yet, even with all this talent and 1st party they haven't gotten a game that sells as much as, say, Halo, or even Gears.


is microsofts approach is safer, then what approach would you prefer having more choice on the shelfs or less choice, id prefer sonys approach simply because theres more games to choose from


just what i was thinking... why the hell should i care about sony's model once they are doing well enough to continue providing content?


Except MS provides plenty of exclusive content as well. On top of that they have been profitable for awhile now, unlike Sony, so they will keep providing great exclusive games for a long time.



Tridrakious said:
Aldro said:
Agree with post above me. HOWEVER I do think TLOU will actually release 2013 as its a new IP and I can fully respect ND pulling a Epic on Gears 3 by polishing it even further. Not to mention 2012 is insane already. My fanboy meter after this year.. I need a break! XD


Sony is going to need more than what they have if they intend on squeezing another 15 million (I would like to see them hit higher than 15 million) in a third consecutive fiscal year.

StarHawk, The Last Guardian and Twisted Metal will not push hardware. There might be a blip on the radar, but nothing that will sustain hardware sells.

There won't be a KillZone, LittleBigPlanet or Uncharted. So releasing a game like The Last of Us in 2011 becomes much more needed.

Plus there won't be a Ratchet or Resistance coming either.

When God of War IV gets announced that will help bolster the PS3, but won't be enough to launch PS3 numbers high enough.

Titles like Metal Gear Rising: Revengenence and Final Fantasy XIII-2 will help out overall, but again nothing that will be major. A game like Final Fantasy Versus XIII (I hope it gets a new name) would make a big splash, but it doesn't look like it will ever get the main focus of Square-Enix (unless Sony steps in to assist in development or throw funds at the game).

Good post. SONY could really do with some heavy marketting, and none of this hardcore Kevin Butler crap, it needs to be straight to the point.



brendude13 said:
Tridrakious said:
Aldro said:
Agree with post above me. HOWEVER I do think TLOU will actually release 2013 as its a new IP and I can fully respect ND pulling a Epic on Gears 3 by polishing it even further. Not to mention 2012 is insane already. My fanboy meter after this year.. I need a break! XD


Sony is going to need more than what they have if they intend on squeezing another 15 million (I would like to see them hit higher than 15 million) in a third consecutive fiscal year.

StarHawk, The Last Guardian and Twisted Metal will not push hardware. There might be a blip on the radar, but nothing that will sustain hardware sells.

There won't be a KillZone, LittleBigPlanet or Uncharted. So releasing a game like The Last of Us in 2011 becomes much more needed.

Plus there won't be a Ratchet or Resistance coming either.

When God of War IV gets announced that will help bolster the PS3, but won't be enough to launch PS3 numbers high enough.

Titles like Metal Gear Rising: Revengenence and Final Fantasy XIII-2 will help out overall, but again nothing that will be major. A game like Final Fantasy Versus XIII (I hope it gets a new name) would make a big splash, but it doesn't look like it will ever get the main focus of Square-Enix (unless Sony steps in to assist in development or throw funds at the game).

Good post. SONY could really do with some heavy marketting, and none of this hardcore Kevin Butler crap, it needs to be straight to the point.


They need to keep Kevin Butler around doing hardcore commericals, but they need a "shocking" campaign for next year. If they can create that with Kevin Butler that would be awesome, but it needs to be fresh. I like the Long Live Play/Hall of Play campaign.

Outside of that, games themselves are the best way to market a console. StarHawk and Twisted Metal will help (Starhawk being new and Twisted Metal with the re-launching of that series) with bringing fresh content to the system, but The Last of Us will do more. God of War IV will just be a major title to have. Along with Versus XIII could give the PS3 a great boost.

Two more factors that WILL work against the PS3. Vita and Wii U.



Honestly Sony is doing a good job in building new IP's , you cant rely on the same same ole franchises(microsoft) year in and year out because while they do sell....people will also grow tired of them. I have supported Ms with both their last consoles but as of Now, I'm gonna buy ps4! Keep it up with the original shit Sony



This is the reason why Ps3 is better than Xbox 360. the exclusives, idc what argument you make.. it all comes down to playing games and clearly, by far Sony has the BEST exclusives out.