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Why does most music made after ~2000 suck?

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Do you believe the music industry has gone downhill during the 2000s?

Yes 79 69.91%
 
No 29 25.66%
 
Maybe 5 4.42%
 
Total:113
MontanaHatchet said:

There's still plenty of great music (although honestly most of my favorite groups, such as Radiohead and The Strokes, have released some pretty poor albums in the last year or so). The reason that most mainstream music on the radio sucks is that artists can rarely afford to take chances. With music piracy being as prevalent as it is, major label artists have to play it safe in regards to songwriting. At the same time, MTV pushes the idea that image is more important than talent. The rate of decline has accelerated in the last 10 years and especially in the last 5 years. However, we've still had:

Radiohead (particularly with Kid A)

System of a Down

The Strokes

Arcade Fire

Wilco

And various other bands and artists releasing creative and interesting music.

We seem to have very similar tastes i music. Ive argued until im blue in the face Wilco's newest album is on par with YHFT and the back half of King of Limbs is on par with Kid A/Amnesiac era. 

Yorke and Greenwood on Fallon (i think) doing Give up the Ghost will make a believer out of anyone. But i do agree, The Strokes have really evolved, some for the better (Machu Picchu, Life is Simple in the Moonlight) but when Julian tries to blend too many synths he fails hard.

I try to buy a new album every week. Most recently Deer Tick albums, and Foals, Young Evils, Wye Oak, Phantogram to name a few. Music itself is in a great place, its just too hard to find it unless you really want to sadly.



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sethnintendo said:
Marks said:
Yeah its not as good but at least there's some:

- Rise Against
- Linkin Park
- Pearl Jam
- Foo Fighters (Thank God Cobain killed himself so Grohl could go make this amazing band!)
- Blink 182
- Airbourne
- Cage The Elephant
- JET
- A Day To Remember
- Lupe Fiasco (best rapper of today)
- Mumford and Sons

But yeah I do agree the best music was pre 2000...I'd even say pre 1990. Boston, The Clash, Fleetwood Mac, Rush, Sex Pistols, Ramones, Tragically Hip, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, etc.

Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Blink 182, Linkin Park are all from the 90s...  While they are making music still they probably aren't on the top of their game.  I enjoyed Foo Fighters first 2 cds but it seems like they even went down hill.  Most bands from the 90s (311, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, etc..) went soft and I am not talking about the good soft which is in a lot of classic rock (basically most bands from the 90s that are still around have shown a drop in their quality).

Linkin Park is 2000's. Hybrid Theory was 2000 and Meteora was 2003.

Blink 182's best stuff was late 90's, I grant you that, but "Take off your pants and jacket" was 2001, plus I thought Neighbourhoods (this year) was good.

I do admit Pearl Jam was better in the 90's but they are still putting out good quality music. Backspacer was really good (although obviously not as good as Ten)

And the Foo Fighters are great still, they've put out some of their best stuff in the 2000's. I'd argue that In Your Honor (2005) is as good as their 90's stuff like The Color and the Shape. Plus they haven't gotten soft at all, Wasting Light is as hard rock as their 90's stuff. 

So you're right, besides LP who are entirely 2000s, the other 3 bands best stuff was in the 90's, but they are all still active and putting out quality stuff today, especially Foo Fighters. 



AdventWolf said:
Marks said:
Yeah its not as good but at least there's some:

- Rise Against
- Linkin Park
- Pearl Jam
- Foo Fighters (Thank God Cobain killed himself so Grohl could go make this amazing band!)
- Blink 182
- Airbourne
- Cage The Elephant
- JET
- A Day To Remember
- Lupe Fiasco (best rapper of today)
- Mumford and Sons

But yeah I do agree the best music was pre 2000...I'd even say pre 1990. Boston, The Clash, Fleetwood Mac, Rush, Sex Pistols, Ramones, Tragically Hip, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, etc.


Nice, I just started listening to them and they are awesome. Very mellow music.


Nice! Glad to hear of other Mumford and Sons fans. I think with how good they are and how unique their music is they can really go far!



Baalzamon said:
sethnintendo said:

Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Blink 182, Linkin Park are all from the 90s...  While they are making music still they probably aren't on the top of their game.  I enjoyed Foo Fighters first 2 cds but it seems like they even went down hill.  Most bands from the 90s (311, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, etc..) went soft and I am not talking about the good soft which is in a lot of classic rock (basically most bands from the 90s that are still around have shown a drop in their quality).

Linkin Park's first album, Hybrid Theory, came out in 2000, so I wouldn't really say they are from the 90's.

I also noticed somebody mentioned Dream Theater.  While they existed prior to 2000, they have released some marvelous music in the last decade.

Avenged Sevenfold has some pretty sweet music as well.

Shinedown has some amazing songs, largely due to Brent Smith's absolutely amazing voice.

Alter Bridge has some pretty sweet stuff.

Destrophy is pretty awesome.

Some of Jet's songs are cool.

There's plenty of really good bands out there, you simply have to either know where to look or listen through the not quite as good bands on the radio so you can hear the good stuff.


Nice list, forgot about some of those bands! Glad their is another Jet fan on this site. I personally think Get Born is one of the best albums of all time. 

And Avenged Sevenfold is pretty sweet too. 



steverhcp02 said:
If youre looking for good new bands that have a raw sound look into Deer Tick, Cotton Jones, older My Morning Jacket maybe some older Band of Horses. anything by Black Keys really pre Brothers (Rubber Factory), Fleet Foxes and id venture to stretch Bon Iver's new album and Wilco is always a solid choice, Jeff Tweedy is this generations Bob Dylan, IMO.

Foals, Arctic Monkeys, Spoon, TV on the Radio are making the best music of their careers and i believe only Spoon was around before 2000 albeit very limited.


Great new music is out there, the fact youre looking for "bands that sound like" means youre limiting yourself and will be disappointed regardless.

Good God, we should be friends!  All great music, and I'll admit I haven't heard of a few.  Youtubed a few of them and I'm liking what I hear.  But, really you had me at Band of Horses, Everything All The Time is one of my favorite albums ever. 

On a sidenote, listening to Cotton Jones, Somehow Keep It Going.  The first song I clicked on youtube, and I'm very impressed. 

Back on track, going through my current itunes music.  I was a big fan of Bear vs. Shark, sad to see them part ways.  I keep finding myself impressed with Brand New, with each album they grow up and change in ways that I would never have expected, from their pop-punk filled first album to their latest rythmic/scream rock (I just made that up, but not sure how else to describe Daisy, great cd). 

I'll always have a special spot for Bright Eyes, though I know they are pre 2000 so that's all I'll say about them in this thread.

Sufjan Stevens and The Strokes are still bringing out great music, though I think they've been around since 99.

The Ditty Bops and A Fine Frenzy are just two groups with female singers that drive me crazy.

The Weepies and Two Gallants.

And lastly, a band that has sent shots of amazment through my veins time and time again, another group that started in 99 but I'll give them a free pass on this thread, Dr. Dog.  And I will leave you a link to my drunken thread of the past about them, with more links to their songs. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=132053&page=1#

Double Lastly, I will leave you with one of the GREATEST songs ever since 2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjkaYh8bauA



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Runa216 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I've had a theory about music for a while. It goes like this.

People's love of music peeks in their teens when their taste is defined.

During their teen years they identify with music and it becomes a part of them. As the years pass, music becomes less important and less defining in their life. As more time passes and popular music changes they find that they would rather listen to the music from their youth than the music of the present. Eventually, they grow to dislike current music because it no longer even resembles what they consider good music, that which they identified as teens.

There are exceptions, like music fans that can't get enough music and their whole life is about finding new and unique bands. But I think for a lot of people, music is something they like and what they end up liking most is music connected to fond memories of good times.

It's a good theory, but I would be the exception. I didn't get into stuff like Dream Theater, MEgadeth, Elvenking, Sonata Arctica, Nightwish, Avantasia, and Blind Guardian until 2006...5 years ago.  I was 20.  If I was basing my musical tastes on what was popular when I was in my teens, or what I liked, I'd probably still be listening to crap like Lady GaGa and most modern pop.  in the 90's it was all country music, pop, and dance for me.  I hated metallica with a passion, Korn blew, Nirvana was the worst and most depressing band ever, anything heavier than Bon Jovi was devil music.  I didn't know what "instruments" were, all I knew were synthesized beats.  It was a load of shit.  I had horrible taste.  

I don't know how she did it, but my best friend at the time managed to make me like metallica through their softer Load and ReLoad stuff, and from there it was harder and harder music until 2005, when Guitar Hero came out and my tastes exploded.  Between 2000 and 2005, I got into classic rock, started liking stuff from the 80s. Ozzy was awesome, so was Guns n Roses, AC/DC, Motley Crue, Poison, etc.  Then when Guitar Hero came out, it proved to me that modern music could be awesome, you just needed to be exposed to it and none of it was on the radio.  before Guitar Hero, I'd never heard of Bang Camaro, I had no idea The allman Brothers Band was awesome, I didn't know rush was one of the greatest rock acts of all time.  Then Rock Band came out and basically blew my expectations out of the water.  

I could spend all day telling you all about the songs and bands I'd never heard of that are amongst my favorites now thanks to rock Band, but seriously: just go buy Rock Band 3 and buy a bunch of DLC.  you have no idea the kind of quality you get from that.  I know the fad is over, but you have no idea how much it'll expand your love for new music.  

The moral is:  There's plenty of good music out there, a lot of it is new...you're just not gonna find it on the radio unless you like bland, generic, repetitive, simple stuff.  to get great bands, look at symphonic metal.  Look at progressive stuff.  Look at indie stuff.  Hell, even alternate metal is epic (folk metal, fantasy metal).  

And for those saying "Yes there is good stuff on the radio, you jsut have bad taste" or "it's all subjective"....no.  you're basically wrong.  Being repetitive, simple, and easy to learn is CATCHY, it's not GOOD.  Pop music is like an addiction, and it's repetitive for a reason, so your brain can get a high off memorizing it and predicting how it's gonna go.  most pop music is specifically designed to be catchy, not good.  that's why lyrics like "OOOOOOOH, baby baby baby" work when any poet would rip his ears off.  

I've heard that a lot. It seems lots of people broadened their musical tastes from games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero. I've heard people have found new love for music from the radio stations in the GTA series.

I love Rock Band, but I'm really picky about the songs. I try them all, but if it's not a genre I like I usualy end the song and find another. But I have found new music from bands I never heard of within the genres I love thanks to Rock Band and others.



Lots of great music nowadays

I like to listen to music (the "people playing instruments" kind) and most of the stuff I enjoy comes from this century

I also enjoy this century's "singer in a band" kind of music too, lots of great stuff all around



Use Last.fm to find new artists. It works great for me



lordmandeep said:
Lady Gaga's new stuff is not good.

Nowhere near as popular as Bad Romance and such.

I agree

and the only great song in Rihanna's new album is ''We Found Love'', the others are not good at all

Adele is amazing, and quality, has many great songs in that album, well deserved huge sales, bigger than Gaga's and Rihanna's bug albums

 

where's is 2000's Michael Jackson!? a singer who was selling albums instead of singles, and his worst album(2001) sold 13m (like Gaga's huge Monster), where all other albums were like 20m and 30m, with Thriller being over 100m , best selling album of all time from the best artist of all time

and now comes shitty Ketty Perry (compared to Michael) with shitty songs to hold a record together with Michael, 5 No1's from a single album, this is pathetic, but still Michael was selling whole albums instead of singles



While it's a matter of taste more than anything, I agree that I think quality songs are few and far between in mainstream music these days. Which just shows my bias.

But I never really listen to radio, I just look around every now and again if I want to find new music. And epic music can certainly still be found!

One of my favorite groups (started by two brothers and ended last year when one of them died) is E. S. Posthumus.

You still have bands who make popular music who know how to make music I would consider high quality. Coldplay do this quite nice in my opinion.

Kamelot is a personal favorite of mine as well, and although they started in the early 90's, they've made some awesome music in the 2000's as well.