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I'm getting it soon enough....cannot wait!!!!



           

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Nintendo finally got it right because Shiggy, Aonuma and Iwata are all getting old?

What?



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Joelcool7 said:
Chrysander said:
Joelcool7 said:

From what I played it is amazing. Everyone seems to agree it is a master piece the question is will its sales follow or will WiiU kill it off early ,next year?

I'm glad to see you enjoying it Padib, I hope this shuts up all those saying Nintendo is losing their touch. Nintendo is still hands down the best first party game developer on earth. Not saying MS and Sony aren't good but Nintendo has proven time and time again that they can create true master pieces which nothing from any other publisher first or third party could possibly release.

Lets hope Nintendo has some killer 5 year WiiU games ready for launch. Even one or two would just be mind blowing.

Opinions boldly stated as facts. Well done

Umm that is an opinion oriented statement I can't see how it can be taken as factual.

Also master pieces yes can you name a single title that has been more beloved then Super Mario Bros? If we go by sales and cultural impact etc...etc.. you can't find a single franchise and IP from any other publisher on earth that has made the impact Mario did. Nintendo's other franchises consistently sell well if not better then their counter parts at any first party publisher and better then almost every game from a third party publisher.

But again Master Piece is also an opinionated statement and not fact. Some people think Vincent Van Gogh is a master piece that nobody else could compete with, they would have a very good point but then you take a can of Heinz splatter some on a wall and leave the can laying next to it and that is called the master piece.

In the end both statements are and were opinion based statements made with some facts to back them. They may be seen as facts but they can't possibly be. Anyone thinking I stated them as facts obviously has to wonder if any factual statement could be made in that context.

Its sort of obvious I was not saying them completely factually. Just that it is the opinion I have and many others do as well, sales figures support that as do cultural impact. Plus right now none of the other publishers are capable of producing a title that could take down Mario, its not that I am saying Microsoft or Sony are bad just that neither has proven capable of creating a title of that caliber.

Peter Molyneux's put it best when he acknowledged to date he hasn't made a true AAA game. Microsoft and Sony both realize they so far haven't been able to create a master peice in line with Nintendo's best. Its nothing to be ashamed of it just shows that everyone is out to create a master piece on caliber with those that Nintendo has made. Meaning Nintendo better watch out because the day MS or Sony create an IP or franchise that can kick Mario's butt is the day Nintendo starts going down!


I refuse to read all that on the grounds that my quote was like 7 words and you gave me around 400.



padib said:
Chrysander said:
Joelcool7 said:
Chrysander said:
Joelcool7 said:

From what I played it is amazing. Everyone seems to agree it is a master piece the question is will its sales follow or will WiiU kill it off early ,next year?

I'm glad to see you enjoying it Padib, I hope this shuts up all those saying Nintendo is losing their touch. Nintendo is still hands down the best first party game developer on earth. Not saying MS and Sony aren't good but Nintendo has proven time and time again that they can create true master pieces which nothing from any other publisher first or third party could possibly release.

Lets hope Nintendo has some killer 5 year WiiU games ready for launch. Even one or two would just be mind blowing.

Opinions boldly stated as facts. Well done

Umm that is an opinion oriented statement I can't see how it can be taken as factual.

Also master pieces yes can you name a single title that has been more beloved then Super Mario Bros? If we go by sales and cultural impact etc...etc.. you can't find a single franchise and IP from any other publisher on earth that has made the impact Mario did. Nintendo's other franchises consistently sell well if not better then their counter parts at any first party publisher and better then almost every game from a third party publisher.

But again Master Piece is also an opinionated statement and not fact. Some people think Vincent Van Gogh is a master piece that nobody else could compete with, they would have a very good point but then you take a can of Heinz splatter some on a wall and leave the can laying next to it and that is called the master piece.

In the end both statements are and were opinion based statements made with some facts to back them. They may be seen as facts but they can't possibly be. Anyone thinking I stated them as facts obviously has to wonder if any factual statement could be made in that context.

Its sort of obvious I was not saying them completely factually. Just that it is the opinion I have and many others do as well, sales figures support that as do cultural impact. Plus right now none of the other publishers are capable of producing a title that could take down Mario, its not that I am saying Microsoft or Sony are bad just that neither has proven capable of creating a title of that caliber.

Peter Molyneux's put it best when he acknowledged to date he hasn't made a true AAA game. Microsoft and Sony both realize they so far haven't been able to create a master peice in line with Nintendo's best. Its nothing to be ashamed of it just shows that everyone is out to create a master piece on caliber with those that Nintendo has made. Meaning Nintendo better watch out because the day MS or Sony create an IP or franchise that can kick Mario's butt is the day Nintendo starts going down!


I refuse to read all that on the grounds that my quote was like 7 words and you gave me around 400.

It's easy to throw out a critique, harder to build a solid defense. His examples and industry notes are good, and his post made alot of sense.

I'm sure it did. To be honest, joel's post are very insightful, I can admit that. One of the more level headed poster in this site, but his post are so goddamn long...I just don't bother most of the time.



padib said:

The game has minimal sound and is not noisy, the only thing you hear is the beautiful, glorious orchestral music and sounds of wind. 

 

I'm a bit surprised to read that, because one minor thing that annoys me is that the sound effects are way louder than the music.

WAH! HUARGH!!... strings waaay in the background... KLANGGG!! HEEYY!!!

Maybe I should check if there are any settings (in Zelda or on my TV set) I can change.



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padib said:
OneTwoThree said:
padib said:

The game has minimal sound and is not noisy, the only thing you hear is the beautiful, glorious orchestral music and sounds of wind. 

 

I'm a bit surprised to read that, because one minor thing that annoys me is that the sound effects are way louder than the music.

WAH! HUARGH!!... strings waaay in the background... KLANGGG!! HEEYY!!!

Maybe I should check if there are any settings (in Zelda or on my TV set) I can change.

Gee, yeah I haven't had that problem. I didn't notice that sheesh I hope I won't notice it now :B

Nah, don't worry, and it's not a big thing either. I'd just like to hear the music prominently and loud (being a musician:) And I can't, if I don't want to upset my girlfriend with the sound FX. In Mario Galaxy I think the balance was more in favor of the music. Battlerock Galaxy, man, that gave me goosebumps...



RolStoppable said:

Majora's Mask had the handicap of being the follow-up to the best game of all time, so by default most people didn't give it a fair chance and it took a while until it was acknowledged what a fine game it actually is.

But such semantics don't really matter. The problem is that Zelda has become the Nintendo game that takes the longest time to develop (whether it's a five year cycle or "only" three years, it is the longest) and the quality of the series isn't even maintained, much less improved. The two DS games were ultimately disappointing, especially Spirit Tracks which had huge amounts of copies ending up in the bargain bin. This speaks volumes, because Zelda isn't supposed to be bargain bin material.

The last three games that have come out of the Zelda team have been meh (PH), poor (ST) and good (SS), but not great. It's getting to the point that Zelda games sell based on brand name moreso than on their actual quality. I am not going to tolerate such a decline, because I know that Nintendo can do better than this.

I am not the only one whose expectations haven't been (fully) met. The common theme seems to be that those who have already beaten it or are close to it are less happy about the game than those who just started it. The game gets worse the longer it lasts, that's just how it is.

Let's give it a sec for the market to decide what's subpar and what isn't



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