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Welcome back Monty! I used to be a frequent poster on here back in late '07/'08, then I felt the site lost some of its quality (not to mention simplicity) after its 1st major overhaul... especially the popups and ads all over the place that made the site so slow too load, and I even got a couple of malware infections when visiting the site on a couple of occasions, so I sparsely visited VGC for the past couple of years.

2011's been a good year for the site though... I really like the latest design, the forums are much improved over the previous versions, and the quality of the articles has seen an improvement as well. Although I'd prefer more focus on the news articles on the homepage so we don't get tons of threads reposting the same news info over and over just because the original VGC article is more than a few hours old and got buried under the latest updates.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
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Seece said:
okr said:
Seece said:
okr said:
"Try to urge quality older members (those from 2007/2008) to come back to the site. If you're still in touch over AIM, Facebook, or some other form of communication, try to contact them and bring them back to the site. At the same time, we should be trying to bring brilliant new users and contributors to the site. I think a basic approval process (that is, new accounts are approved by the staff instead of instantly created) would help to weed out a lot of bad apples,"

For real? Urge lost "quality" members to come back? Approval process for new members? Strangest thoughts I've seen in a while on this site.

So, hm...welcome back...I guess.

Seem like great ideas to me, especially approving accounts, as we have so many troll alts sign up again and again and again.

Account approval, okay. Whatever. I don't know or care anyway about most members, let alone alt accounts.

But trying to convince good ex-members to come back? Let's see: For me, this would include e.g. stof, fkusumot, Bodhesatva, rocketpig, noname2200 and Ghost of RubangB. Even if I knew how to contact these guys, I'd definitely not try to bring them back. I think they all had their different reasons to leave.

Don't think Rubang would be welcome back anyway!

That's my point. And I guess he wouldn't be the only one. People who leave sites have their reasons.



MontanaHatchet said:
okr said:
"Try to urge quality older members (those from 2007/2008) to come back to the site. If you're still in touch over AIM, Facebook, or some other form of communication, try to contact them and bring them back to the site. At the same time, we should be trying to bring brilliant new users and contributors to the site. I think a basic approval process (that is, new accounts are approved by the staff instead of instantly created) would help to weed out a lot of bad apples,"

For real? Urge lost "quality" members to come back? Approval process for new members? Strangest thoughts I've seen in a while on this site.

So, hm...welcome back...I guess.


Thanks for the support.

I can understand if you're apprehensive about an account approval process, but I don't see how you can disagree with bringing older users back to the site. There are still people who post on NeoGAF (as an example) and signed up for the site over 10 years ago. Bringing back the older community will be an important step in increasing the quality of the forums and the level of discussion on the site. For those of you who don't love that I'm back, oh well.

"Account approval, okay. Whatever. I don't know or care anyway about most members, let alone alt accounts.

But trying to convince good ex-members to come back? Let's see: For me, this would include e.g. stof, fkusumot, Bodhesatva, rocketpig, noname2200 and Ghost of RubangB. Even if I knew how to contact these guys, I'd definitely not try to bring them back. I think they all had their different reasons to leave."

I'm not sure about everyone you listed, but Rocketpig and I were quite good friends and we sent DOZENS of PMs to each other complaining about the site and its community. If he left, it was because of his dissatisfaction with the direction of the site. I'm not expecting every great user of the past to flood back at once, but it's worth an attempt. There's no doubt that the exodus of these members played a huge part in the decline of the community.

Rocketpig actually hasn't completely left the site, he posted a thread about his webcomic a few months back, but it seems he and other old members (like you) lost interest in the forums. I never cared as much about the VGC forums as others, I was always more interested in weekly numbers, that's the main reason why I'm still here. I've always been more of a forum reader than a poster. I'd also love to have some of the quality and (positive) madness back we had in the forums from 2007 to 2008, it was great fun to read most threads back then, but I can't see how you'd get back to that level by trying to bring back old members who left for different reasons.

You mentioned neogaf: I'm not a member or active supporter of neogaf, just an occasional reader, but imo their gaming specific discussions are miles ahead of VGC (e.g. their famous Why the DS rocks is one of the best threads I've ever seen on any gaming forum; the thread was supported and read for more than 4 years). It seems some old VGC members - if I'm not mistaken e.g. makingmusic476, Soriku - gradually left us for gaf's in-depth gaming discussions. Imagine: The gaf community adopt to industry changes and actually discuss e.g. iOS games instead of dissing them like some of the VGC console and/or handheld owners who seem to constantly fear the imminent downfall of their preferred company. They discuss PC games on neogaf too, even niche PC games, and yes, I think even MMOs. PC threads on VGC still die right after the OP (or after 5 posts if it's about Blizzard or Steam). I'm exaggerating, but you get my point.

During the past 5 years VGC never developed the same forum depth as neogaf. VGC still is 90% consoles, 9% handhelds, 1% rest of gaming platforms. Of the 90% console discussions, usually a good part are threads about the big games of the month (currently Skyrim, Uncharted 3, Skyward Sword, that yearly Activision shooter and again Skyrim). It's good that you want to improve on that and I wish you good luck, but I think you need a bit more than bringing back some old members. I just can't see this idea working, but I will be the first to congratulate you if I'm proven wrong.

By the way - there's one excellent poster from early VGC who doesn't post anymore (or very, very rarely) and is still a key member of the staff: Naznatips. I don't know if he has the time for more contributions but bringing him back to the forums would be a great start and probably easier than trying to convince old members who left for good.



This thread feels so 2008.....welcome back okami



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MontanaHatchet said:

Thanks, I'm grateful for the opportunity to help the site again.

I think, as a community, we need to make several important steps to bring back the quality forum Vgchartz used to have. At the same time, we should be preparing the site for the next generation and making it as clean and efficient as possible (ioi is promising a return to basics and I'm hopeful for the future of the site).

I urge the community to take the following steps:

- Try to urge quality older members (those from 2007/2008) to come back to the site. If you're still in touch over AIM, Facebook, or some other form of communication, try to contact them and bring them back to the site. It won't be easy, but great discussions and intelligent people are the building blocks of a strong community. At the same time, we should be trying to bring brilliant new users and contributors to the site. I think a basic approval process (that is, new accounts are approved by the staff instead of instantly created) would help to weed out a lot of bad apples, but I realize that not everyone has the time to sort out new members.

- Report diligently. I see plenty of crappy posts and spam on game pages and in just about every thread. If people don't report bad posts, the job of the moderators becomes a lot more difficult. I'll be doing my part in deleting bad posts and banning when appropriate. Use good judgment on what is bad posting and poor behavior.

- Make quality threads and quality posts. Good discussion is born out of thoughtful and insightful discourse. This site used to have one of the best communities on the internet. Let's bring that back.

- Finally, be mature, kind, and courteous. This is pretty much a given, but still, many users don't seem to have these values on hand. Complaining about the numbers every time you disagree with them and trolling at every opportunity is not helping the site to improve.

Thank you.

I'm loving the attitude, welcome back Monty! ^_^



Oh, wow. Welcome back, Monty. It's pretty cool to have one of the old guard return.

But if you're really expecting me to be mature, then you can fuck right back off to wherever you've been hiding all this time.



Old Monty back. He was the best person with any authority on this site at the time.

Be interesting what he can add to this site in the what i like to call "the dark modern age" Yawn



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Welcome back, and you were missed.

That said, I'm not sure if you can really make that much of a difference. The problems here run pretty deep, and many will not be resolved, no matter your good intentions. It's a shame, really, as I used to enjoy this site; however, for some time it's been somewhat of an empty husk. That said, for all I think you are fighting a losing battle, I wish you the very best of luck.



Welcome back, Montana Hatchet. It's great to have you back. Now go clean things up (as long as that doesn't mean that I'm in trouble).



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