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Yes. If they continue to support it for 10 years as they have claimed.

But there is little point arguing imaginary numbers with people whose grasp of economics is slight and whose hatred of Sony is strong.



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I don't think, PS3 is just a big help to sell all Sony HD products, and video games.

Nintendo is the only company wich make directly money with the Wii I think



Parokki said:
Not that I'm doubting you guys, but could someone give me a source for how much money Sony made with the PS2? It'd be nice to have more than "some very credible guys told me on a very credible forum" if I later quote the numbers and someone asks me where they're from. =P

If you have them handy, then I'm also interested in the same numbers for Nintendo and Microsoft (-4bn$ wasn't it?) as well, but don't strain yourselves for little old me.

I second this, although I trust Rols number I would like some form of source too.

I will say maybe in 2012 depending on when they stop losing money. I see them losing money at least for all of 2008 and most of 2009. This will not be a profitable generation for Sony's video game sector.



 

 

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Amazing, in a single year they managed to nearly wipe out all the profits gained in the PS2 era.



Once again though...it is hard to measure the true losses. If blu-ray is very successful in the future, that will be because of the ps3. However, that won't be included in the ps3's #'s. Also, how much does the ps3 help Sony's other departments? e.g. HD tv's, etc.?
As I said, it's the only reason I bought my Sony HD tv. W/O my ps3, I wouldn't have bothered going HD or even getting a Sony if I did (probably would have gotten a Samsung or Toshiba)



Well, I now only have access to a PS3 & 360...Plan on buying a wii soon (lol, if I can ever find one available!) but will probably wait until some of the major RPG's come out like Dragon Quest & Tales, etc.

Anyhow, I'm so far behind in games to play that I'm not in a huge hurry (lol, haven't even gotten a chance to finish God of War II yet!) 

Sorrow880 said:
Once again though...it is hard to measure the true losses. If blu-ray is very successful in the future, that will be because of the ps3. However, that won't be included in the ps3's #'s. Also, how much does the ps3 help Sony's other departments? e.g. HD tv's, etc.?
As I said, it's the only reason I bought my Sony HD tv. W/O my ps3, I wouldn't have bothered going HD or even getting a Sony if I did (probably would have gotten a Samsung or Toshiba)

Regarding Blu-Ray, I'm a bit confused. Sometimes, Sony fanboys say that Blu-Ray is not only Sony's format, and that the numerous other interested companies from the Blu-Ray association will make its cost go down even without competition from HD-DVD. Then some other times, we hear people saying that Blu-Ray's royalties will make Sony recoup their massive losses with the PS3.

Which one is it, does Sony get a big share of Blu-Ray's royalties or don't they?

 



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Without knowing the the revenues and margins, it's difficult to say how much profit is being made and will be made from blu-ray and associated products. Nintendo has demonstrated that 23%+ profit margins are achievable in the VG sector. So even though the blu-ray products might generate more revenue, it is unclear whether the actual/potential profit is greater.



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First off, I'm not a Sony fanboy.

I support all the consoles and love them all. Hell, I was up till 2:00AM playing 360 just last night. 

Secondly, both are true.  Blu-ray (if successful) will help Sony recoup losses & the prices will drop just like DVD prices dropped even though there was no format war.


But yes, Sony will make money off blu-ray if it is successful and they do have royalties.
In addition, other partners will make money off blu-ray too. And the price will go down. Technology prices always drop. You don't have to have 2 different formats for the price to go down. DVD is a prime example--the prices have dropped DRAMATICALLY even though it is the only format. I bought a dvd recorder for $30.00 just the other day...not many years ago you couldn't get one for less that $400! Technology advances and competition always causes electronics to drop in price over time.

I'd wager we'll see a $50-75 blu-ray player in a few years if it is the successful format.

Now Samsung, Philips, Sony, Funai, etc. will all be competing for blu-ray hardware sales. e.g. Funai just announced a sub $300 blu-ray player at CES (rumored to be around $250)...Well, that will force someone else to come out with a $200 blu-ray player to try to gain sales.

So--all are true...Sony will make money, their partners will make money, and the cost of blu-ray players will continue to decline (probably not as quickly, but will still decline).



Well, I now only have access to a PS3 & 360...Plan on buying a wii soon (lol, if I can ever find one available!) but will probably wait until some of the major RPG's come out like Dragon Quest & Tales, etc.

Anyhow, I'm so far behind in games to play that I'm not in a huge hurry (lol, haven't even gotten a chance to finish God of War II yet!)