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dschumm said:
ssj12 said:
ya, I was reading engadget's coverage. the 360 did 3.5 billion dollars in business which is more then what the Wii and PS3 combined did. What are the chances of this being BS? 100%? thats what I thought.

I agree. 

 

Of course they are only talking about North American Revenue, where they are still winning.

 

Imagine if NIntendo said they outsold MS in non-FPS games 3 to 1. Rediculous straining of facts.  


 actaully CES is Internation, so they might be meaning world wide.. o.O 



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ssj12 said:
ya, I was reading engadget's coverage. the 360 did 3.5 billion dollars in business which is more then what the Wii and PS3 combined did. What are the chances of this being BS? 100%? thats what I thought.

Actually, 360 did less than the PS3 and Wii combined.  (3.5 - 1) + (3.5 - 2) = $4 billion.  360 has been out for 2 years, has a major cost advantage over the Wii (we are talking revenue here), has live to boost revenue by around 10%, has been out for 2 years so has an install base advantage for software sales, and already MS is under 50% of the only market in which it's doing well.  Of course WW looks far far better for Nintendo and Sony, and we are talking revenue, not profit.  Which is kind of funny, usually business compare profits to determine who is doing better but I suppose MS has to work with whatever narrow largely meaningless figures where they still have a lead (no matter how quickly it's shrinking).

mrstickball said:
Interesting few blurbs from the whole of things:

* Revenue for the X360 was more than either the Wii or PS3 for hardware and software


Yeah - it helps to increase revenue when your console and software are BOTH more expensive...      ...now, let's see how much of that 3.5 billion becomes profit for MS and how much of that 2.5 billion becomes profit for Nintendo - I'm sure you know what THAT outcome will be.  :P

 



I think he meant to say:

"Damn, it was looking good for a while there but then Nintendo busted our party with that damn Wii. Still at least they're sticking it to Sony too. Who figured that while we focused our entire strategy on licking Sony by getting a headstart the world would embrace the Wii. At least we still have US (hah!) and are selling well there - better than anybody and I don't want to think about sales of Wii software catching ours like the console caught ours in half the time it took us to get our sales... it ain't gonna happen and don't tell me how Wii and DS titles are starting to take the top spot in the US charts 'cause I don't want to know. We're the leader, okay? Even though we're not really anymore. We got to 10 million first! Okay Wii got to 10 million even quicker but we started first so that's what counts!"

I mean, credit where credits due the 360 has done pretty well, the software does have a great attach rate but that is really if you confine the analysis to US only. As someone else said titles like Fifa sell more on PS3 still and will sell even more on PS3 this year vs 360 than last.

Still, he's not paid to spell out the hard facts of how Nintendo is the top dog right now.



There seems to be a counter spin here, where some of you are spinning this to be worse for Microsoft that it is. Of course they spin numbers, but they clearly aren't in trouble.



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I LOVE how ms is all about "the revenue"...yeah because they have yet to generate a single CENT of profit on their billion dollar sink hole that is their "game division"...lol

I said it earlier, they had absolutely no good news at CES..apparently Sony is stealing the show.