None of the consoles are doomed.... BUT IT WOULD MAKE FOR LOTS OF POSTS!  LOUD NOISESSS

If it's posts you are looking for, put the word "religion" in the title.

I think I'll try and stick to quality posts.  I've seen what's happened with those threads.  Blaergh.

You are definitely the right person to guarantee that

LOL ;)

Wow, the amount of ignorance in this thread is absolutely staggering. First they say "We don't know what the movement is about", and then you state "it's had more than enough news coverage". Then you state that it's nothing but a bunch of whiners who do not want to work. That, my friends, is called prejudice.

For those lazy people who do not do their research and instead decide to assume, the occupy movement relates to government persuasion and favouritism by funds from the private sector, effectively turning the country into a plutocracy. Plus, investing in a congressman can be considered one of the best investments a wealthy investor or corporation can make, with average calculations of return at 17,000% of the original investment via subsidies etc. Somebody tell me then, if a politician mostly is under the influence of corporate "donations", which side would he stand if a conflict arose between the people and said corporations?

no your not being honest, that is your interpretation of what OWS is about ^^^
Frankly in OWS, you have every type of message trying to be articulated so no one knows the message.

Most people agree with the point about corporations having to much power, however the OWS is a rather haphazard silly movement. They have done well in creating debate however the debate has shifted to the effectiveness of the OWS movement rather their message and that shows how off the rails the movement is.

There is no leader or leaders, no clear message or purpose or message and now interaction with the media.
Frankly, how can any movement have any real impact without all of those things.

By being such a haphazard movement, they then are dismissed by the rest of the public.


Also the person's argument over capitalism is flawed that it requires economic growth. Does not socialism need increased govt spending? Even in places where populations are stable, govt still spend more money year over year due to increased costs and wages.

As I mentioned before, do your research.

Canadian based foundation, Adbusters, proposed the occupy movement based on the following:

- Corporate influence on democracy

- A growing disparity in wealth

- The absence of legal repercussions behind the recent global financial crisis.

Some may want to take it to other levels, but those are the BASE meanings behind the movement.

The people.  Because at the end of the day people are the ones who keep you in power.

You can have all the corporate money in the world... it's not going to do jack if you piss off the people.

Enough for what's needed. Besides, there's always the cushy job as a lobbyist that said corporations will offer if you happen to please them enough. The cycle then continues...