"white supremacist"?

Europeans came to America first, removed the Indians and claimed the lands and brought black people as slaves. Other ethnic groups such as Asians and Latinos only came there much later.  It's unfortunate but it's logical that people who came there first and used others will have a huge advantage for years to come. They just happened to be white Europeans. You can't change history.

That statement shows a complete lack of understanding of how modern racism actually functions in the US to the point of where... well it's just awful.  I'd elaborate but I have to go to work, so i'm marking this for later.

Actual racism in the US has about zero to do with an actual racism hegemony and everything to do with subtle societal cues vs most countries, pretty much everywhere, When it comes to multiculturalism the US is beter then just about everyone....

and the number of people that both leave and enter the sphere of millionaires is far greater.  Making society much more transitory in this way.

Actually, i'm not even sure I want to elaborate further then that, it's just such an offbeat statement....

I'd suggest reading some actual literature on modern racism done by any number of great authors, and in general some books like Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink" to get a real understanding of what the legacy of "Hard Racism" because right now your conception of what the country is like is just... so unbeleivably fundamentally flawed.

The current state of racism is based almost entirely on the effects of society.

Your average person of any minority in the us who does the same in about everything is going to have similar outcomes to any white person.  The problems lie in largely in the fact that due to past racism some minority groups are on average behind economically and the stuff that often gets in the way of achivement.  For example, people still believing their is a white oligarchy activly holding minorities down via an evil council.  Or that talking well and doing well in school "Isn't black" and stuff like that.

Inward self focused racism is much more an issue then outward racism which largely only causes problems in getting your foot in the door and generally over time don't hurt. 

The Occupy movement is just a ton of angry people with no answers and no clue how to fix things. They have no unified set of objectives, it started with one that Obama open an investigation. But as it spread it turned into a thousand up here in British Columbia I've heard its about the lack of low income housing or social services. How it got from the big corporations and top 1% to being about every single issue that faces impoverished people is beyond me.

It doesn't help that the supposed leaders of the Canadian movement were recently interviewed. They were asked "How would you describe yourselves" they all said Anarchists among them some said they were rebels. Well if you want your movement to do anything the last thing you want is to openly say your an anarchist.

I think the world is getting sick of them, the Occupy protestors are ruining peoples ability to protest.

Their are several good protests which happen each year. They have solid leadership that demand one to five or so goals. The protestors meet in large numbers demanding these goals. The Government often works with the leaders and implements small changes to accomodate a couple of those goals. The protestors disperse peacefully after those goals are met and they have accomplished something. These guys went out without clear leadership without any real goals without any idea of how to fix the Government's reliance on Wall Street. They basically just showed the world "We are angry".

In the future when groups with actual leadership and ideas start protesting, I could see the world thinking "OMG here's another group of angry people who will destroy property cause problems and have nothing to contribute" the Government will then crush these good protests and the people won't bat an eye lash because these Occupiers have ruined any ability for protests to be effective.

Obviously they need better media coverage. Pretty sure the banks has control over CNN and FOX. Just assuming.

These protesters are protesting all the wrong things which is why I'm sick of this occupy wall street thing. It should be occupy the whitehouse/federal reserve/congress...not wall street aka the people that create jobs, wealth, etc.

There are two types of immigrants in America. Voluntary and involuntary. The involuntary immigrants are those who were made American by force, such as slaves, American Indians and hispanics. Their lands were taken and they were made to assimilate. Their descendants have been continually discriminated against ever since. Voluntary immigrants come to America seeking a better life, but they to must face assimilation or social alienation. You either learn to speak English and adhere to the dominant values of the white supremacist hegemony, or fail to succeed in anything.

At any rate capitalism is the true enemy. I could write a whole paper about the evils of capitalism, but it's most fundamental flaw is unrealistic sustainability perpetuated by a need for economic growth.  In other words capitalism only work if the the economy grows.  There are two ways to achieve this. Industrialization or modernization is the first. But for America that is no no longer a possibility. The second is an increase in consumers and laborers. This is why America needs immigrants. And there are 1.3 million entering the country every year. This need for more people will never cease. Population density will increase and more resources will be consumed. The problem is we live in a world where the amount of resources we can consume is finite. If we do not change the market economy model, not only in this country but across the globe, we are headed for a major future crisis. But the hegemony exploits the capitalist model because they benefit from it. They grow richer. But the poor grow poorer.

America chooses to repress its diversity. But with globalization intercultural and interlingual relations is becoming ever so more important. Therefore we should celebrate our diversity, allow it to flourish and draw strength from it. Immigration will never stop, so why not make the most of it?  And by promoting multiculturalism in a way that is mutually beneficial we can all work together to overcome racial and class barriers and focus on what is most important for everyone, our environment and social welfare. But until we cooperate and constructively advocate for change and possibly social revolution, America will continue its decline.

This protest is not going to work because financist don't care. They are making their money anyway.

If you want to affect them - invest your own money yourself, move your account to cheap local banks and avoid using your credit cards as much as possible.

It's hard to know whether something's working or not when you don't even have a coherent set of objectives.

So Racism is at fault and now capitalism is at fault yet you and the OWS people have not given a legit solution.

Capitalism in itself is not a flawed concept and the same applies to democracy.

Its in how we follow these ideas and how we control and regulate such ideas. Even in Scandinavia they have a capitalist society, of course though the govt has strict control over it.


Also frankly I have noticed that in Canada and here in the US, immigrants group that prosper are the ones that do not act petty. I am Indian and I rarely ever hear statements like "there is no hope as long as the white people have control", however I always hear statements like that from black people and look where they are as a group.

Also few countries in the world have been able to integrate, the Europeans are have a hard time and even in Canada and Australia there are many issues.

Im going to go Occupy Red Robin