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So the big numbers have started to roll in and the holidays has well and truely officially started. Not sure why people are so suprised this is kinda the norm. The only difference maybe this year the Wii looks like it will not make anything like its previous hurrahh which considering the announcement this year is not suprising in itself.

Will it be 360, PS3 and Wii for the 1st 2nd and 3rd places. (Not talking handhelds if I was then I would have to mention the iPhone, Android and the WP7).



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dsage01 said:
Michael-5 said:
dsage01 said:

At least try to read my post. What your saying makes no sense at all after looking at my post. And yes MW3 sales did affect Zelda sales. It sold like crap on the U.K. in the first week even below a Halo remake which had no hype. But it may have good legs once the competition is gone as Nintendo games tend to be more leggy. And only based on two weeks data how could you judge Uncharted 3 sales. And that too with many people in denial that it is under tracked. And Uncharted 2 had many bundles since the first day of release. Uncharted 3 didn't have as many bundles compared to UC2. Agreed many of those games will not pass their predesessor at this stage but the games you listed on top had a huge reason why there not selling as well. If it makes you happy I'll list them for you.

Killzone 3: -less hype and scores than Killzone 2

Forza 4: Less hype and Forza 3 had way too many bundles

LBP2: - Bad timing (No game sells in Jan LBP is a holiday type game)

Halo 3: First Halo and more hype

Motorstorm - new games have no hype and less bundles 

I did read you post, and I said most major exclusives aren't selling as well as predecessors, not just Uncharted. It's called expanding the scope of the debate.

Why is hype dying? More competition. Black Ops hype hurt Halo and Killzone 3 hype, GT5's release hurt Forza 4's hype (and the limitations of the 360 prevented too much of an improvement over Forza 3), and releasing in January shouldn't affect casual game sales. Mario Kart Wii sold fine before bundling, and God of War 3 (not casual) sold fine with a March release. At this point in the console war, Call of duty is stealing all the sales, and exclusives are only good well, no better then before.

As for MW3 affecting Zelda sales....Do you really beleive that? WOW

Your right Uncharted 2 had a lot of day 1 bundles, but Uncharted 3 doesn't have any less. It had the limited edition bundle, plus most retailers are bundling the game with PS3's anyway. I'm actually really surprised at sales because I think Uncharted 3 is bundled just as heavy as Halo: Reach is, but it's not selling as well as it should (Mind you 360 owners can't buy a 250GB 360 without Halo: Reach in many region, PS3 owners still have a choice).


Umm you do know there's only one Uncharted 3 (320 gb one) bundle right? There was at least 3-4 Uncharted 2 bundles on the day of launch. And Halo Reach is now getting to a point where it's more bundled than Forza 3. And MW3 is one of the factors why Zelda is doing not as well as expected all across Europe. And Mario Kart Wii and God of War 3 had plenty of hype that's why they had huge launches in the U.S.A. and there strong and stableized fanbased. And as for GT5 hurting Forza 4 hype...GT5 probably only had hype from it's hardcore fans for all I can rememeber Forza 2 had more hype than GT5. And really your just repeatdly saying what I'm saying and still disagreeing with me

You also know most retailers like Best Buy and Future Shop are bundling Uncharted 3 with the 160GB model as well? It's being bundled pretty heavily.

As for Zelda, I really doubt Wii owners are passing up the one major AAA exclusive for a game on a different console, in a completly different genre. Skyward Sword is looking to outsell Twilight Princess, MW3 is not hurting it's sales.

I'm not repeating what your saying, did you read what I said? I think you fail to understand my point.

My point is almost every major AAA exclusive sequal, will not sell as well as it's predecessors. Your saying it's because of hype, that I agree with, but then you say Uncharted 3 will do as well as Uncharted 2, which is the exact opposite of what you said.

So which is it?

BTW Technically I shouldn't have included God of War because GoW3 was the first GoW for PS3. So Killzone, Halo, Uncharted, Forza, LittlebigPlanet, Motorstorm, etc. The only sequal which looks to oputsell it's predecessor is Gears of War 3, but Epic really put a lot of effort into the story of the game, and making it more appealing to a broader audience (It's easier to play online).



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
Christian973 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
acdcste said:
Anybody want to speculate on what the combined Mario 3d land numbers will be for US and Europe? Seen as though it looks like we won't be getting them for a couple of days. I reckon 700,000 and 3DS hardware over all regions to be in the 450,000-500,000 range this week. Also, don't forget the pink 3DS was released in Europe with Nintendogs and Cats.

I always knew it! Choosing this very week to update the site proves ioi is a MS fanboy, he conspired to delay and downplay the epic Mario and 3DS numbers making sure they'll be submerged a few days or even hours later by the huge XB360 BF numbers that will totally pwn American sales data! Mario's awesomeness will be forgotten in a matter of hours after its moment of glory! The world is so unjust to perv Italian plumbers!!!


They should be posted either today or tomorrow. BF numbers won't be up until next week. 

But if next week American numbers will be again early as usual, XB360' BF numbers will stomp Mario ones to death before it's allowed to fully develop its hype! It's a conspiracy against Italian plumbers and maybe the whole Italy!  ioi is surely a Freemason in the same Lodge of Mario Monti and other Goldman Sachs present and former execs and moneyhatted politicians!!! And now I see even more horrible things! They surely want to secretly kidnap and kill the one true Mario and replace him with Mario Monti, cleverly disguised with plastic surgery and fake plumber clothes!!! We are D0M3D!!!

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pezus said:
reviniente said:
pezus said:
trasharmdsister12 said:
pezus said:
I can't live like this people! I need some numbers and I need them soon

Orally dictate the first 69 numbers in the Fibonacci sequence. That should quench your hunger-thirst for a bit.

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Saw the movie but didn't like it and don't remember most of it

I didn't like it either. Thought that Angels & Demons was substantially better.



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Most anticipated games of 2011:

Uncharted 3,Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Rocksmith

Modern Warfare 3, Super Mario 3D