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goforgold said:
Seece said:
goforgold said:
crissindahouse said:
goforgold said:
sega4life said:
Said it before and again:

Xbox 360 + No Price Cut + Six Years Old + Half a Million Sales + Before Black Friday = AMAZING!

you know I've never understood this "no price cut" stuff

when the ps3 outsold the 360 being  $100-200 more, that's a impressive sales considering the price difference

but the 360 is currently one of, if not the least expensive console on the market and have been so since 2008, and has been at the mass market price point longer than any console this gen, ps3 JUST went below 300 dollars and it still isn't 199, but the 360 has been there since 08 and that's was *counts on fingers* 3 years ago (when the cheapest ps3 was $400)

but there are people who use theri brain sometimes like me who don't think like "oh the console costs $100 less it's so much cheaper". they think like "hmm okay it costs $100 less but what will i have to pay for the next years" because i don't care only about the price of the first buy. and then i calculate it with xbox live for example. and then the 360 isn't cheaper not to talk about the blu-ray player of the ps3 which is great because you know most people have a hd tv nowadays but most still don't have a hd player.

just saying... i know not many think like that but the people who think like me know the 360 isn't cheaper and if they wish to play cheap they don't think "ohh 360 above all". and yes i know not everybody will pay for xbox live but there are people wh will and calculate like me.

 

o...k

The original post said nothing about PS3. So yes, No price cut for the 360 in 3 years yet 500k before BF is pretty fucking amazing, so yeah, get over it.

It's CHEAP!! one of the cheapest consoles on the market and have been so for 3 years, price cuts are meaningful to expensive consoles, that shit aint rocket science

any console that cost $199 and still NEEDS  to cut it's price in order put up high sales (in the holidays no less) is a FUCKING....FAILIURE

 

It's average selling price is much higher than $199, and now above the PS3's. Regardless, we're 6 years in and it's doing the best its ever done at this point in time (better than 2008 and 2009), that was sega's point.

You seem intent on trashing the 360 though, keep it up, you won't last long.



 

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NeoRatt said:
This year, Sony have had a tonne of core exclusives and a price drop without Microsoft really doing anything other then the normal exclusives and they can't beat 360 consistently on a week-to-week basis.

In the core genre's of RPGs and Shooters 360 is dominating. Also on the casual side 360 is doing well. Kinect is still in the top 50 and Lego Harry Potter on 360 outsold even the Wii version.

Sony consistently has to have some concerns. Move is dead. A price drop wasn't enough to hold #1 in sales through the holidays. Also, Uncharted 3 is ok, but it should be exceptional in sales.

Think what you want about Microsoft, but they are outmaneuvering Sony on the marketing front every step of the way this generation.


I'm pretty sure the PS3 has beat the 360 almost every week this year. Its the only reason has a lead on the 360 this year.

The 360 is obviously stronger in the holidays since Microsoft are marketing geniuses.



goforgold said:
Seece said:
goforgold said:
crissindahouse said:
goforgold said:
sega4life said:
Said it before and again:

Xbox 360 + No Price Cut + Six Years Old + Half a Million Sales + Before Black Friday = AMAZING!

you know I've never understood this "no price cut" stuff

when the ps3 outsold the 360 being  $100-200 more, that's a impressive sales considering the price difference

but the 360 is currently one of, if not the least expensive console on the market and have been so since 2008, and has been at the mass market price point longer than any console this gen, ps3 JUST went below 300 dollars and it still isn't 199, but the 360 has been there since 08 and that's was *counts on fingers* 3 years ago (when the cheapest ps3 was $400)

but there are people who use theri brain sometimes like me who don't think like "oh the console costs $100 less it's so much cheaper". they think like "hmm okay it costs $100 less but what will i have to pay for the next years" because i don't care only about the price of the first buy. and then i calculate it with xbox live for example. and then the 360 isn't cheaper not to talk about the blu-ray player of the ps3 which is great because you know most people have a hd tv nowadays but most still don't have a hd player.

just saying... i know not many think like that but the people who think like me know the 360 isn't cheaper and if they wish to play cheap they don't think "ohh 360 above all". and yes i know not everybody will pay for xbox live but there are people wh will and calculate like me.

 

o...k

The original post said nothing about PS3. So yes, No price cut for the 360 in 3 years yet 500k before BF is pretty fucking amazing, so yeah, get over it.

It's CHEAP!! one of the cheapest consoles on the market and have been so for 3 years, price cuts are meaningful to expensive consoles, that shit aint rocket science

any console that cost $199 and still NEEDS  to cut it's price in order put up high sales (in the holidays no less) is a FUCKING....FAILIURE

 





Slimebeast said:
Happy for Skyrim's sales obviously (my original optimistic prediction was 2 million first week).

X360 surprisingly good sales. I don't understand how it can outsell the PS3.

Fablle 3 selling almost 100K, please tell me that's because of bundles.


The Skyrim sales are great, however I believe they could relatively easily be better.  With a little more marketing effort and sense Bethesda could easily have seen higher PS3 sales than they did IMHO.  Like most developers more associated with 360 they seem to struggle to shake free of the reputation of previous titles.  They should have looked at how Valve handled Portal 2.

Still great sales - and great game - but it just maddens me to see multi-platform titles allowed to slump (relativly speaking) on one platform vs another due to basic marketing errors.

In terms of 360 outselling PS3 it's simply down to having the bigger market for this time of year and the right deals and momentum.  The PS3 outsold the 360 earlier in the year for the same reason really, outside of holidays the general demand outside US is higher, during this period US often has more demand than other territories so the advantage flips from PS3 to 360 for a while.

BTW I bet you're enjoying Skyrim, right?  I bought two copies by mistake but I might swap one for a console version rather than return it just to directly compare console to PC.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Seece said:
goforgold said:
Seece said:
goforgold said:
crissindahouse said:
goforgold said:
sega4life said:
Said it before and again:

Xbox 360 + No Price Cut + Six Years Old + Half a Million Sales + Before Black Friday = AMAZING!

you know I've never understood this "no price cut" stuff

when the ps3 outsold the 360 being  $100-200 more, that's a impressive sales considering the price difference

but the 360 is currently one of, if not the least expensive console on the market and have been so since 2008, and has been at the mass market price point longer than any console this gen, ps3 JUST went below 300 dollars and it still isn't 199, but the 360 has been there since 08 and that's was *counts on fingers* 3 years ago (when the cheapest ps3 was $400)

but there are people who use theri brain sometimes like me who don't think like "oh the console costs $100 less it's so much cheaper". they think like "hmm okay it costs $100 less but what will i have to pay for the next years" because i don't care only about the price of the first buy. and then i calculate it with xbox live for example. and then the 360 isn't cheaper not to talk about the blu-ray player of the ps3 which is great because you know most people have a hd tv nowadays but most still don't have a hd player.

just saying... i know not many think like that but the people who think like me know the 360 isn't cheaper and if they wish to play cheap they don't think "ohh 360 above all". and yes i know not everybody will pay for xbox live but there are people wh will and calculate like me.

 

o...k

The original post said nothing about PS3. So yes, No price cut for the 360 in 3 years yet 500k before BF is pretty fucking amazing, so yeah, get over it.

It's CHEAP!! one of the cheapest consoles on the market and have been so for 3 years, price cuts are meaningful to expensive consoles, that shit aint rocket science

any console that cost $199 and still NEEDS  to cut it's price in order put up high sales (in the holidays no less) is a FUCKING....FAILURE

 

It's average selling price is much higher than $199, and now above the PS3's. Regardless, we're 6 years in and it's doing the best its ever done at this point in time (better than 2008 and 2009), that was sega's point.

You seem intent on trashing the 360 though, keep it up, you won't last long.

who the hell is trashing the 360

I'm just saying given the 360's selling price mentioning that fact that hasn't had a price cut is redundant

oh and cleaver leaving out 2010, I wonder why *rolls eyes*



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Jay520 said:






Both Fable 3 and Halo Reach sales are mosly from bundles?



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psrock said:
I have no idea why we argue over these numbers when I am 100% sure they will be different a month or two from now. Congrats to the 360 though, huge deals leads to huge sales.


We will get HW adjustments but not SW since these are hardly ever changed if game is multiplat. Anyway we still get enough figures to guess close to correct figures and it seem thats not enough.



goforgold said:
Seece said:
goforgold said:

It's CHEAP!! one of the cheapest consoles on the market and have been so for 3 years, price cuts are meaningful to expensive consoles, that shit aint rocket science

any console that cost $199 and still NEEDS  to cut it's price in order put up high sales (in the holidays no less) is a FUCKING....FAILURE

 

It's average selling price is much higher than $199, and now above the PS3's. Regardless, we're 6 years in and it's doing the best its ever done at this point in time (better than 2008 and 2009), that was sega's point.

You seem intent on trashing the 360 though, keep it up, you won't last long.

who the hell is trashing the 360

You

I'm just saying given the 360's selling price mentioning that fact that hasn't had a price cut is redundant

No it isn't. The fact it manages to be flat/up yoy with no cut in 3 years is not redundant.

oh and cleaver leaving out 2010, I wonder why *rolls eyes*

Because it's down a mere 19k yoy without the buzz from the Kinect launch, pretty damn impressive.





 

Seece said:
goforgold said:
Seece said:
goforgold said:

It's CHEAP!! one of the cheapest consoles on the market and have been so for 3 years, price cuts are meaningful to expensive consoles, that shit aint rocket science

any console that cost $199 and still NEEDS  to cut it's price in order put up high sales (in the holidays no less) is a FUCKING....FAILURE

 

It's average selling price is much higher than $199, and now above the PS3's. Regardless, we're 6 years in and it's doing the best its ever done at this point in time (better than 2008 and 2009), that was sega's point.

You seem intent on trashing the 360 though, keep it up, you won't last long.

who the hell is trashing the 360

You

I'm just saying given the 360's selling price mentioning that fact that hasn't had a price cut is redundant

No it isn't. The fact it manages to be flat/up yoy with no cut in 3 years is not redundant.

oh and cleaver leaving out 2010, I wonder why *rolls eyes*

Because it's down a mere 19k yoy without the buzz from the Kinect launch, pretty damn impressive.



1. no I'm not, I'm just not congratulating nor am I shocked it did roughly the same as it did last year

2. Jesus Christ man do you know what happens to a console when it's official price drops lower than $199, there's literally a similarity between every console, do you not know what that is....

3. a bundle and or/including a deal in almost EVERY major territory on the biggest game of the year that have only gotten bigger...EVERY YEAR,  during the holiday no less. really? how low did you guys think it was going to do??? 10k... 11k??? honest question