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kowenicki said:

Sony stock has now dropped by pretty much 50% in the last 12 months.

Sony Falls to 24-Year Low Amid Concerns About Euro, Economy

 
By Naoko Fujimura - Nov 16, 2011 10:35 AM GMT

Sony Corp. (6758) fell to the lowest level in more than 24 years in Tokyo trading as the yen strengthened against the euro amid concern the European debt crisis is spreading.

The maker of Bravia televisions dropped 3.3 percent to close at 1,308 yen on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, the lowest level since May 1987. The Topix Electric Appliances Index, whose 154 members include Sony and Canon Inc. (7751), fell 1.2 percent and was the biggest contributor to a drop in the broader Topix index.

Sony, which this month forecast its fourth straight annual loss, led a decline among Japanese electronics stocks as the euro weakened to the lowest against the yen since Oct. 10. The Bank of Japan cut its economic assessment today as Governor Masaaki Shirakawa called the European debt crisis the biggest risk for the nation’s export-led recovery.

“The currency is another blow for Sony,” Mitsuo Shimizu, an analyst at Cosmo Securities Co. in Tokyo, said by telephone. “An earnings recovery for Sony isn’t anywhere in sight.”

A stronger yen cuts the value of overseas income at Japanese companies when repatriated. Sony gets 21 percent of its sales from Europe.

To contact the reporter on this story: Naoko Fujimura in Tokyo at nfujimura@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Michael Tighe at mtighe4@bloomberg.net

 

 

The Japanese government recently did another round of investment to reduce the Yen but again it hasnt worked.... They dont have many other options left.

Heres an idea... could Sony become a software provider/publisher first and foremost?  Movies, Music and Games.

Wishful thinking ? , They still have to repatriate the money , so how they make it doesn't really matter , to make the same amount they made when the euro was higher , they either put up prices or increase volume , neither is a long term option so they will ride it out, the worm will turn.



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Public perception of that 3D Personal Viewer they just launched hasn't been too positive, either. Sony just can't catch a break.



kowenicki said:

you need to stop with the US hate / Japanese love thing....

IMF chief Christine Lagarde on Saturday said Japan should make reducing its mammoth public debt a priority, while adding that its recent unilateral currency intervention was "in the spirit" of the G7.

yeah cause that would help other nations but when it comes to a crisis everybody will try to save their own ass,just look what china is doing with their currency 

and as for IMF and Lagarde,they are nuts hell bent on globalization which is failing.Their idea of economics is nuts of running your country on debt.

Japan's "priorities going forward are the swift implementation of reconstruction spending, and the adoption of a strong medium-term plan to reduce public debt," the International Monetary Fund managing director said.

In Tokyo, Lagarde met Japanese Finance Minister Jun Azumi, Bank of Japan Governor Masaaki Shirakawa and financial services minister Shozaburo Jimi, before leaving for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in Hawaii.

stop following these nutcases like ben bernake,christine lagarde.

the day debt can't be payed,they will run away with their secret banking systems and people of countries around the world will be slaved even worse than today's economic slavery

At more than 200 percent of GDP, Japan's debt is the world's highest after years of pump-priming measures by governments trying in vain to arrest the economy's long decline.

they are that because they used USA's monetary policy after WW2 to build its country on debt

but don't forget that japan holds alot US dollars as securities like china and russia





kivi95 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
So how the hell are they going to have the funds to launch both vita and ps4?
I suppose if either of these fail, than Sony might have to leave the console business all together


The day I will leave gaming :(

I've never really understood this line of thinking. 

Why would anyone quit gaming just because a company stops making games. You know if Sony somehow dropped out of the console race that there would be another company to take it's place.

 

It's not like there would be a lack of quality games coming out.



kowenicki said:
snakenobi said:
KillerMan said:
The problem will go away though with longer timeframe as high yen reduces the growth of Japanese economy and that leads to weaker currency. I still don't know though why Japanese goverment just wont print their way out of the problem. Not the fairest thing to do but US has done it for years so why Japan shouldn't?


cause they know that it will bite them in the arse one day in the future as it does US today

 

USA inflation since they started blind printing is abnormally high

and with the comming crisis next year,they are saving themselves

you need to stop with the US hate / Japanese love thing....

IMF chief Christine Lagarde on Saturday said Japan should make reducing its mammoth public debt a priority, while adding that its recent unilateral currency intervention was "in the spirit" of the G7.

Japan's "priorities going forward are the swift implementation of reconstruction spending, and the adoption of a strong medium-term plan to reduce public debt," the International Monetary Fund managing director said.

In Tokyo, Lagarde met Japanese Finance Minister Jun Azumi, Bank of Japan Governor Masaaki Shirakawa and financial services minister Shozaburo Jimi, before leaving for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in Hawaii.

At more than 200 percent of GDP, Japan's debt is the world's highest after years of pump-priming measures by governments trying in vain to arrest the economy's long decline.

Japan's debt is completely different thing compared to other western nations though as it's pretty much fully owned by its own people(and household are still filthy rich in Japan as Japanese people love so save). Not to mention that tax rates overall are pretty low in Japan so they have means to fight against debt (taxes have been magically low for years which actually lead to this debt problem). Of course in future with their huge aging population the debt will be huge problem if nothing is done to solve problem but not at the moment like in Europe.



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Seece said:
snakenobi said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
So how the hell are they going to have the funds to launch both vita and ps4?
I suppose if either of these fail, than Sony might have to leave the console business all together


the current SONY losses include PS4 and VITA R&D

they can get money by selling assests as they have alot of them

 

the current SONY's shit has alot to do with their long term planning,you can see by recent ericsson acquisition,ip building,qriocity,etc

also its not that much about about SONY as its about the financial crisis in EU and US

 

Ninty and MS will be in the same situation so lets hope this irresponsible debt problem in EU and US can be solved

Huh?? Microsoft are sitting firm and pretty, over $23b profit a year and even the gaming division is pulling its weight now, I'm not saying MS won't be impacted by world issues but stop lumping them in with Sony and Nintendo, Microsoft isn't a japanese company.


I was just about to say the same. Microsoft is actually in a very different boat.



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I'm sure Sony will overcome this, they're the leader in electronics, generations of entertainment and consoles only start when Sony says so: PS2, dvd, blu ray, PS3, walkman etc.



Turkish said:
I'm sure Sony will overcome this, they're the leader in electronics, generations of entertainment and consoles only start when Sony says so: PS2, dvd, blu ray, PS3, walkman etc.


Your posts are so embarssing, I swear you're a parody



 

poor sony i hope they can turn this around



Sony will not be defeated!

Seriously though, I know little about stocks and the related, but I can't see them discontinuing making consoles. They're going to go through some shit though