I have it pre-ordered, not because I like the look of it but because it will be closest I (and anybody for that matter) will ever get to a KoTOR 3 :'(

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Many games doing excellent here, Halo 4 after the christmas season should be right at the top for most of next year.

SWTOR continues to impress. I know plenty of ex wow players (like myself) and current wow players that will be playing this obsessively.

It really hasnt surprised me that CEA isnt on pace with odst. First of all odst had the reach beta, it had all of halo 3's mp, and it had better graphics than halo 3. CEA is a remake that doesnt have halo 4 beta, has worse graphics than reach,  and doesnt include any of reaches mp. It has 2 things going for it 1 its 40 bucks and 2 it doesnt have reach in the title (odst had halo 3) that way it doesnt look like an expansion. Also odst had marketing, i must of seen 10+ comercials for it. But i have seen zero marketing for CEA.

 4.5 million seams low to me. odst did 1.6 million fw in americas and id guess CEA will do 1-1.5 million. I think it will have slightly better legs than odst because its cheap. I'd say anywere from 5-6.5 million is realalistic.

  Ya mass effect 3 is doing great. I hope it does 4 million on 360(ME2 will pass 3 million). And halo 4 is doing great, i hope it gets 3 million pre-orders.

Well I do agree with a few things but I have to address a few things here.

1. We don't actually know if it will include the Halo 4 beta or not.

2. It doesn't have worse graphics than Reach, they are slightly better in fact. Also I have to point out that graphics do not sell a game (just look at COD)

3. It may not include any of Reach's MP but it does include 7 of the best MP maps of all time (one firefight map)

4. A $40 price is a very important thing it has going for it.

Also there are a few things that ODST did not have going for it such as there was no Firefight matchmaking.

When you add up the positives and negatives for each game there is no reason why Halo CEA isn't tracking like ODST, Although I think CEA will have nice legs (especially on Black Friday and the like) due to it's $40 pricetag.

odst is only tracking ahead of CEA by 90k. i think that the fact that odst had the reach beta from the git go and frank o conner said at e3 there was no halo 4 beta accounts for all 90k plus some. Also odst had tv marketing before release while cea hasnt(from what ive seen).

  Right now its hard for me to say whether it will sell 5 million or 7. It being a remake and being priced at 40 bucks makes it hard to guess. i cant wait to play it though.i beat reach again sunday in prep.  im going to be thinking about it at work all day tomarrow. After i beat it im going to go through halo 2 and 3 agian.

Think a little. Halo Anniversary IS the same game. Every other Halo is amazing and builds upon a successful formula. 

Embarassing yes....but good thing its completely hypothetical. 

Every Halo is origional and/or builds upon a successful formula. This game is supposed to be a homage to the game that started it all for the franchise. Don't dismiss it as a cash in, despite the sales itll likely pull in. 

Its the exception to the rule and you know it....or should know it. 

Yeah I suppose the Reach beta was a big draw. And yes I know Frank said there was not going to be a Halo 4 beta in CEA but there was a video leaked (it could have been fake) that showed something about a Halo 4 beta in Halo CEA.

I don't think it will ever get to 6 million TBH unless it has incredible legs.

But anways I can't wait to play it in a couple of days!

Point? You implied that 343 can do yearly rehashes and still outsell games that are built from the ground up, making it embarassing for 343. 

My counter was that Halo Anniversary is the exception, as its supposed to be a remake, celebrating 10 years of the franchise.

I also like it how everybody who condescends on Halo forgets that every full Halo FPS has a 90+ score on metacritic, with spinoffs, expansions, and remakes getting in the 80's. I think to insult a game with that kind of pedigree automatically hurts your credibility. 

Exactly! That's why Halo is one of the very few that have actually gotten a proper remake, unlike all the other wannabe remakes