NJ5,
Sure, they will not hit their (official) forecast without some major channel stuffing. They'll probably have to stuff 4 million units worldwide. I say it's possible.

Wow.  These threads are somewhat like that old exercise where you whisper a story into someone's ear and have them keep passing it on around a circle of 10 or more people until it comes back to you in a totally different form.  Good grief!  NPD's are just a couple of weeks away.  WHO CARE's who's specific definition of 'retail sales' is, etc.  We'll see in a while.  I get what some people are saying about numbers not being changed, but I for one haven't seen any 'funny business' on this site.  Errors are owned up to and corrected as they should be.  Guys, this just isn't a big enough deal to get so riled up over.

Hell, I want to see the PS3 do well too, but fact is it HAS.  Let's all take a step back and evaluate the importance of this whole deal in the larger scheme of things, shall we?  Even if dead on (and it wouldn't surprise me to find that Sony, MS and Nintendo contact retailers through the holiday period to tab how much has been sold...I've seen that done before) why should the numbers be adjusted NOW, as in the night of announcement, without some work and verification?  If the verification can't be done yet, then why at all?  Maybe it will take the NPD's to shed enough light on this to see if adjustment is needed or not.  Maybe it can be done before.  Whatever the case, let's see or let the owners of this site give their view before jumping all over it and getting out the flamethrowers between the various fanboy camps that obviously have some need to nitpick each others every word, grammar and usage of tense just because they seem to believe that their chosen console is the second coming and should be the only one to exist.  This is nuts!  Are the majority of the people posting on this site still in grammar school or what?  Maybe (and most likely) I'm insulting grammar school students as the majority of them might be more evenly keeled. :) 

Both of the times I calculated it, they had less than 800k PS3s stuffed into the retail channel. I highly doubt they can do that, unless they ship a lot of PS3s to their official "Sony Style" stores (where employees would probably drown under the sea of PS3s).

Oh and by the way... What's the deal with all the "Sony lies" and "Sony should be investigated" crap about the reports.  Guys, all companies release reports in a manner to put their numbers in the best light.  It's called PR, get used to it.  Most companies even report units shipped or made, not actually sent to retailers.  If memory serves, MS used to do this as well.  In any case, get off it.  It's stupid.  Hell, we still don't truly usually know Europe's numbers as NPD doesn't do them, and even NPD doesn't track some of the biggest outlets out there.  So there's a good bet that ALL the consoles are under-tracked.  The idea is to get a good ballpark of where things are and the trending.  If you're desperate for EXACT 100% numbers, get used to disappointment.  Chances are you'll never know......

RolStoppable said: jhlennon1 said: And to the Wii fans, you get a lol. You can quote hardware sales while the best hardcore 3rd party games are on PS3/360. What is the use of great hardware sales when 3rd parties don't care about you? lol That's one of the last strongholds PS3/360 fans can boast about and even that one will fall. Enjoy it while it lasts.

err i really dont care since i own a wii

but i highly doubt that unless wii actually starts selling software other then nintendo games and party crap

Lost tears of Kain said: RolStoppable said: jhlennon1 said: And to the Wii fans, you get a lol. You can quote hardware sales while the best hardcore 3rd party games are on PS3/360. What is the use of great hardware sales when 3rd parties don't care about you? lol That's one of the last strongholds PS3/360 fans can boast about and even that one will fall. Enjoy it while it lasts. err i really dont care since i own a wii but i highly doubt that unless wii actually starts selling software other then nintendo games and party crap

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=13223

RolStoppable said: jhlennon1 said: And to the Wii fans, you get a lol. You can quote hardware sales while the best hardcore 3rd party games are on PS3/360. What is the use of great hardware sales when 3rd parties don't care about you? lol That's one of the last strongholds PS3/360 fans can boast about and even that one will fall. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Really? You think Konami are going to start making MGS4 type games on the Wii?  You think S-E are going to use their best team and make FFXIII on the Wii despite the fact that their best games are busy with other projects? Take Two lol'ed at GTA on the Wii and they don't produce anything decent other than that, Epic don't seem to give a crap about Wii games, Namco games have a quality issue and Tekken 6/Soul Calibur 4 are not on the Wii, Capcom have Resident Evil 5 and DMC4 which both are currently not on the Wii and DMC4 not ever happening.

While you have EA, Activision, Ubisoft in Microsoft's back pockets due to amazing software sales.

You see the problem? There is not a lot left and quality games take time, meaning the Wii could be in for a very amusing 2008 game wise.

"another way to bring wii, this site is wiichartz."

You're ware of the fact this is the type of stuff Hus use to say, right? If I were you, I'd lay low, since you're just coming back from a ban. That's what I'm trying to do.

jhlennon1 said: RolStoppable said: jhlennon1 said: RolStoppable said: jhlennon1 said: And to the Wii fans, you get a lol. You can quote hardware sales while the best hardcore 3rd party games are on PS3/360. What is the use of great hardware sales when 3rd parties don't care about you? lol That's one of the last strongholds PS3/360 fans can boast about and even that one will fall. Enjoy it while it lasts. Really? You think Konami are going to start making MGS4 type games on the Wii? You think S-E are going to use their best team and make FFXIII on the Wii despite the fact that their best games are busy with other projects? Take Two lol'ed at GTA on the Wii and they don't produce anything decent other than that, Epic don't seem to give a crap about Wii games, Namco games have a quality issue and Tekken 6/Soul Calibur 4 are not on the Wii, Capcom have Resident Evil 5 and DMC4 which both are currently not on the Wii and DMC4 not ever happening. While you have EA, Activision, Ubisoft in Microsoft's back pockets due to amazing software sales. You see the problem? There is not a lot left and quality games take time, meaning the Wii could be in for a very amusing 2008 game wise. 3rd parties can't afford to ignore the Wii forever or only put cheap games on it. http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=13273 That's where heavily supporting the 360/PS3 got them. Combined they aren't even in the black. How are they going to sustain this? It's simple, they can't. I can't help but notice majority of those are March 07 which would be minimal PS3 results. You might want to wait until March 08 and see Assassins Creed, COD4, Madden 08 etc.. sales before quoting finance reports.

 Considering PS3 sales are pretty low, I don't think its going to make a difference