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Ruler on 01 December 2015
lightofhonor said:

Updated!

FY END SONY NINTENDO MICROSOFT
1981   $19,998,400  
1982   $95,802,440  
1983   $84,221,280  
1984   $71,057,070  
1985   $83,218,020  
1986   $225,388,440  
1987   $302,068,800  
1988   $369,383,560  
1989   $483,794,640  
1990   $448,355,840  
1991   $981,947,680  
1992   $1,109,515,840  
1993   $1,279,146,880  
1994   $962,438,080  
1995   $957,146,400  
1996 ($93,491,480) $752,481,940  
1997 $508,270,950 $579,934,080  
1998 $954,197,760 $1,024,464,480  
1999 $1,073,609,660 $1,228,994,940  
2000 $693,184,350 $1,306,720,300 ($1,090,000,000)
2001 ($463,129,080) $767,354,820 ($1,666,000,000)
2002 $664,149,150 $954,399,510 ($866,000,000)
2003 $924,881,130 $821,985,200 ($938,000,000)
2004 $599,416,860 $955,148,210 ($1,011,000,000)
2005 $402,344,400 $1,039,385,040 ($464,000,000)
2006 $77,419,800 $799,588,650 ($1,329,000,000)
2007 ($1,988,702,000) $1,934,765,440 ($2,016,000,000)
2008 ($1,092,978,300) $4,277,791,600 $426,000,000
2009 ($584,760,000) $5,552,630,000 $169,000,000
2010 ($890,000,000) $2,450,000,000 $679,000,000
2011 $429,000,000 $946,000,000 $1,324,000,000
2012 $354,907,870 ($434,500,000) $364,000,000
2013 $22,092,255 $71,400,000 $848,000,000
2014 ($78,000,000) ($229,000,000) $893,000,000
2015 $401,000,000 $207,830,000 $1,788,000,000
Total: $1,913,413,325 $32,480,857,580

($2,889,000,000)

Some Thoughts:

In the past decade, 06-15, Sony lost$3.3B, Nintendo made $15.5B, and MSFT made $3.1B

The PS3 years (06-13) lost $3.6B, 360 years (05-13) made $1M, and Wii years made $15.5B

BS numbers you count everything instead just gaming



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bowserthedog on 01 December 2015
maximus22 said:
Wow if true! I find it hard to believe that Ninty was never in the red during the 64 or Gamecube eras. But if so then kudos.


It's a fairly simple equation. Nintendo sold consoles for profit, made money off third party games, and made loads of money off first party games. Keep in mind back then a game like Mario 64 could be made with 15-20 employees and likely brought in revenues of let's say 500 million.  It wasn't untilthe 3ds price cut combined with Wiiu did nintendo sell hardware at a loss unless i'm incorrect on this.



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HokageTenshi on 01 December 2015

Nintendo FTW... 



Fei-Hung on 01 December 2015

We will never get accurate numbers here anymore for a chart like this since MS have hidden the numbers away. Does Sony throw in any other division with gaming?

The only thing we can do is estimate the numbers via hardware and software sales, xbl and ps+ sales, and guess how much money Sony and MS have been making / losing per console with adjustments for time, cost of games and approximation of what money they are bringing in, again with price drops with software in mind.

It's a huge undertaking if anyone has the time to do it properly.



LipeJJ on 01 December 2015

Wowser, that's shocking. Never expect the gap to be THIS big!



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KLAMarine on 01 December 2015
bowserthedog said:
maximus22 said:
Wow if true! I find it hard to believe that Ninty was never in the red during the 64 or Gamecube eras. But if so then kudos.

It's a fairly simple equation. Nintendo sold consoles for profit, made money off third party games, and made loads of money off first party games. Keep in mind back then a game like Mario 64 could be made with 15-20 employees and likely brought in revenues of let's say 500 million.  It wasn't untilthe 3ds price cut combined with Wiiu did nintendo sell hardware at a loss unless i'm incorrect on this.

Them Wii games too cost peanuts to make and sold millions.



Ljink96 on 01 December 2015

Dang, they're [Nintendo's] loaded...on games only.



Snoopy on 02 December 2015
Ruler said:
lightofhonor said:

Updated!

FY END SONY NINTENDO MICROSOFT
1981   $19,998,400  
1982   $95,802,440  
1983   $84,221,280  
1984   $71,057,070  
1985   $83,218,020  
1986   $225,388,440  
1987   $302,068,800  
1988   $369,383,560  
1989   $483,794,640  
1990   $448,355,840  
1991   $981,947,680  
1992   $1,109,515,840  
1993   $1,279,146,880  
1994   $962,438,080  
1995   $957,146,400  
1996 ($93,491,480) $752,481,940  
1997 $508,270,950 $579,934,080  
1998 $954,197,760 $1,024,464,480  
1999 $1,073,609,660 $1,228,994,940  
2000 $693,184,350 $1,306,720,300 ($1,090,000,000)
2001 ($463,129,080) $767,354,820 ($1,666,000,000)
2002 $664,149,150 $954,399,510 ($866,000,000)
2003 $924,881,130 $821,985,200 ($938,000,000)
2004 $599,416,860 $955,148,210 ($1,011,000,000)
2005 $402,344,400 $1,039,385,040 ($464,000,000)
2006 $77,419,800 $799,588,650 ($1,329,000,000)
2007 ($1,988,702,000) $1,934,765,440 ($2,016,000,000)
2008 ($1,092,978,300) $4,277,791,600 $426,000,000
2009 ($584,760,000) $5,552,630,000 $169,000,000
2010 ($890,000,000) $2,450,000,000 $679,000,000
2011 $429,000,000 $946,000,000 $1,324,000,000
2012 $354,907,870 ($434,500,000) $364,000,000
2013 $22,092,255 $71,400,000 $848,000,000
2014 ($78,000,000) ($229,000,000) $893,000,000
2015 $401,000,000 $207,830,000 $1,788,000,000
Total: $1,913,413,325 $32,480,857,580

($2,889,000,000)

Some Thoughts:

In the past decade, 06-15, Sony lost$3.3B, Nintendo made $15.5B, and MSFT made $3.1B

The PS3 years (06-13) lost $3.6B, 360 years (05-13) made $1M, and Wii years made $15.5B

BS numbers you count everything instead just gaming


Looks like Microsoft is improving and soon will break even this generation on xbox division overall. Then the rest is pretty much gravy. If it wasn't for the RROD fiasco they would've already made a profit. Now all Microsoft needs to do is start being the beast they are and start buying out major third party ip like they did with Gears of War and Minecraft.



COX on 02 December 2015
Snoopy said:
Ruler said:

BS numbers you count everything instead just gaming


Looks like Microsoft is improving and soon will break even this generation on xbox division overall. Then the rest is pretty much gravy.


How do you know that we don't have informations about the xbox division anymore... Ohhh yes the "xbox" division. 



Cloudman on 02 December 2015

Wait, didn't Ninten have 4 years of losses with the Wii U? Why does this show only 2..?



 

              

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