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Who do you support in the conflict and why?

Israel 124 34.35%
 
Palestine 235 65.10%
 
Total:359

The only ways to this conflict ending are either:

1: Israel is extinguished or moved on to another region in the world.
2: Every man on mid west except israeli are killed.
3: Or Israel makes a super ultimate impenetrable technology that protects its borders.
4: The world changes. A great transformation occurs globaly. This includes improbable happenings, like Aliens or Climate change or a New religion.



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This problem is big and neither of them are rigth. But Something happen, that make someone do everything they want without any word stopping.

just read this...

UK Jewish MP:

"Israel was born out of Jewish Terrorism" Tzipi Livnis Father was a Terrorist" Astonishing claims in the House of Parliament. SIR Gerald Kaufman, the veteran Labour MP, yesterday compared the actions of Israeli troops in Gaza to the Nazis who forced his family to flee Poland.

During a Commons debate on the fighting in Gaza, he urged the government to impose an arms embargo on Israel.

Sir Gerald, who was brought up as an orthodox Jew and Zionist, said: "My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town a German soldier shot her dead in her bed.

"My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza. The present Israeli government ruthlessly and cynically exploits the continuing guilt from gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians."

He said the claim that many of the Palestinian victims were militants "was the reply of the Nazi" and added: "I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants."

He accused the Israeli government of seeking "conquest" and added: "

They are not simply war criminals, they are fools."

"Palestinians are treated like dirt by Israeli's"

"They're (Israel) not simply war criminals, they're fools"



Can those who support Israel at least acknowledge that Netanyahu is acting in bad faith by refusing to end settlement construction?



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Mr Khan said:
Can those who support Israel at least acknowledge that Netanyahu is acting in bad faith by refusing to end settlement construction?

Literally, but not relativly.

Afterall the other side is refusing to aknowledge Israel's right to exist in a self deteriministic way.  (IE: Jewish state).


They're both acting in bad faith, though Netanyahu less so.  Espiecally when you consider the last time Israel pulled out and even forced people out of most of the settlements it led to an INCREASE in violence rather then a decrease.

Palestine largely has used concessions to escalate violence rather then dial it back... making acting in bad faith the better option of the two until there is a firm palestinian effort to deal.



Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Can those who support Israel at least acknowledge that Netanyahu is acting in bad faith by refusing to end settlement construction?

Literally, but not relativly.

Afterall the other side is refusing to aknowledge Israel's right to exist in a self deteriministic way.  (IE: Jewish state).


They're both acting in bad faith, though Netanyahu less so.  Espiecally when you consider the last time Israel pulled out and even forced people out of most of the settlements it led to an INCREASE in violence rather then a decrease.

Palestine largely has used concessions to escalate violence rather then dial it back... making acting in bad faith the better option of the two until there is a firm palestinian effort to deal.

I think that reflects more poorly on the lack of united Palestinian leadership than Palestinians acting in bad faith. I mean, there are the illegal settlers that Israel refuses to control, but they are in total control of commissioning more settlement construction for the most part, whereas it depends on which "Palestinians" we're talking about when we gauge the response

I think the pullout from Gaza was just poorly timed against imminent civil strife within the Palestinian polity



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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Can those who support Israel at least acknowledge that Netanyahu is acting in bad faith by refusing to end settlement construction?

Literally, but not relativly.

Afterall the other side is refusing to aknowledge Israel's right to exist in a self deteriministic way.  (IE: Jewish state).


They're both acting in bad faith, though Netanyahu less so.  Espiecally when you consider the last time Israel pulled out and even forced people out of most of the settlements it led to an INCREASE in violence rather then a decrease.

Palestine largely has used concessions to escalate violence rather then dial it back... making acting in bad faith the better option of the two until there is a firm palestinian effort to deal.

I think that reflects more poorly on the lack of united Palestinian leadership than Palestinians acting in bad faith. I mean, there are the illegal settlers that Israel refuses to control, but they are in total control of commissioning more settlement construction for the most part, whereas it depends on which "Palestinians" we're talking about when we gauge the response

I think the pullout from Gaza was just poorly timed against imminent civil strife within the Palestinian polity

Considering the new unity government coming into place.  I don't see how it does depend on which Palestinians it is.