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In its pursuit for casual gaming, the video game industry has been acting disrespectful to the hardcore gaming community. For example, the latest disgrace to gaming, Kinect, was defended by Microsoft by saying that hardcore gamers will like the device, simply because the games made for it will have achievements. Apparently that's all it takes to make us hardcore gamers happy. But this really is just the tip of iceberg. If it wasn't for the Wii, there would be no Kinect. So the situation we are looking at today is all Nintendo's fault.

Microsoft is going to learn their lesson the hard way, just like Nintendo currently is. They banked on casual gamers to carry their console and look how that turned out. It worked for a short while, but now they have to catch up and are hurrying to launch an HD console with a proper controller and online service to appease us hardcore gamers. Will it be enough? We'll see, but it definitely wouldn't hurt, if Nintendo for once bothered to create some new IPs instead of publishing the millionth Mario game.

Gaming wouldn't exist without the hardcore gamer. Casual gamers are fickle and move on to the next big fad, but we are here to stay, because we care about gaming. It's more than just a hobby for us, it is a lifestyle. We are proud of our achievements, because unlike casual gamers, we actually do have some.

Right now it looks like Sony is the only company who knows how to properly cater to hardcore gamers. They don't waste resources on casual crap and keep pumping out great exclusives left and right. That's why they lead in worldwide sales this year and rightly so. Long live play.

8 generations in you would think that the people who are in charge of the major video game companies knew who they owe their continued existence to. Hardcore gamers are what keeps this industry alive. Either please us or go out of business. It's that simple.



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OK.



hardcore gamer = the sun

Hardcore gamers are hot?



 

Is this a serious thread? I can't figure it out. Knowing rol's record I doubt it is though.



Hardcore gamers never even see the sun.



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I am sick of "Hardcore Vs. Casual" bogus arguments. It's not like Kinect and Wii/Move ruin games for hardcore gamers or visa-versa. If you don't want motion controls there are plenty of alternatives. If you don't want to play Forza 4 with Kinect, there's a simple fix for that, don't use Kinect. Use a controller or a wheel. That's what I do.

Both Kinect and Move are add-ons for the respective consoles and thus they are totally voluntary. Even the Wii lets you use a classic controls for most games, if you want. Nintendo may have banked on casuals, but they didn't ignore their fan base either. MS and Sony may have added in motion controls to gain some casual sales, but they both still focus squarely on core gaming. I don't even have a Kinect or Move and I don't feel like I am somehow left out in the cold with nothing to play. There are far too many "hardcore" games on both systems that I don't have the time to play them all.

There is no Hardcore/Casual war. There's just different types of gamers who are all looking for some entertainment and guess what? There's more than enough to go around.

Oh and it's not like you can't have a hardcore game with motion controls, look at Mario Galaxy and Zelda Skyward Sword. I very much enjoyed Mario Galaxy and I'm very much looking forward to playing Skyward Sword. Does that make me a casual gamers because I have the capacity for enjoying games with motion control? No it doesn't? It means I don't care what the game is so long as it's entertaining and that's what gaming is all about, entertainment. People are allowed to enjoy entertainment that you don't like. It's called personal taste and people have the right to like what they like without being categorized and despised for it.



kain_kusanagi said:
I am sick of "Hardcore Vs. Casual" bogus arguments. It's not like Kinect and Wii/Move ruin games for hardcore gamers or visa-versa. If you don't want motion controls there are plenty of alternatives. If you don't want to play Forza 4 with Kinect, there's a simple fix for that, don't use Kinect. Use a controller or a wheel. That's what I do.

Both Kinect and Move are add-ons for the respective consoles and thus they are totally voluntary. Even the Wii lets you use a classic controls for most games, if you want. Nintendo may have banked on casuals, but they didn't ignore their fan base either. MS and Sony may have added in motion controls to gain some casual sales, but they both still focus squarely on core gaming. I don't even have a Kinect or Move and I don't feel like I am somehow left out in the cold with nothing to play. There are far too many "hardcore" games on both systems that I don't have the time to play them all.

There is no Hardcore/Casual war. There's just different types of gamers who are all looking for some entertainment and guess what? There's more than enough to go around.

Oh and it's not like you can't have a hardcore game with motion controls, look at Mario Galaxy and Zelda Skyward Sword. I very much enjoyed Mario Galaxy and I'm very much looking forward to playing Skyward Sword. Does that make me a casual gamers because I have the capacity for enjoying games with motion control? No it doesn't? It means I don't care what the game is so long as it's entertaining and that's what gaming is all about, entertainment. People are allowed to enjoy entertainment that you don't like. It's called personal taste and people have the right to like what they like without being categorized and despised for it.

Exactly what this guy said! you rock.



I agree, our Lord and Savior Sony is the only one who knows how to make proper games. Nintendo and Microsoft needs to be eradicated for their incompetence..



 

 

 

I read it got the main points (serious or not) but I don't know where the Sun analogy fits in!

Plus, Kinect was never meant to replace hardcore gaming. It's there for people like me who enjoy chopping fruit and dancing their asses off every now and then.



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I prob wont take this serious...but should I?