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SlipperyMooseCakes said:

 

WW360 DEC 10TH- 851,678

WWPS3 DEC 10TH- 704,669

Difference: +147,009 for Xbox 360

 

WW360 DEC 20TH- 766,126

WWPS3 DEC 20TH- 343,886

Difference: +422,240 for Xbox 360

 

As of Dec 3rd the gap between the Xbox and PS3 was +806,000 in the PS3's favor.

147,009 + 422,240 = 569,249 more 360's sold in the past two weeks.

Which means, 806,000 - 569,249 = 236,751 is the current difference of consoles sold in the PS3's favor. There are still 11 days of sales left in the month to be calculated.

 

I assume by Dec 20th you mean week ending 12/17 which had numbers just start going up on the 20th. Those numbers are not complete yet. So the difference in 360 favor will shrink. Also believe adjustments for November arent included in your figures. Those increased PS3 lead by about 150K. It is looking like the PS3 will be ahead by about 525K as of Dec 17th.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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My bad I meant 17th instead of 20th. Of course everything is a rough estimation. Even with ~52k in the PS3's lead it is going to be a close race this year. One console did solidly strong the first half of the year and the other is breaking records the second half of the year.



Just a note to be added. PS3 is undertracked 50k just in the U.S.A. (Basing on NPD November numbers) and the Wii is overtracked by 150k just in the U.S.A. (again just basing on NPD November numbers) I know I have no "real" figures for this but considering and looking at the deals (for hardware) and software in Europe (GFK) PS3 and 360 both look underestimated the PS3 more so. So I don't think it's exactly safe to call any console "the best selling console of 2011" untill there aren't proper adjustments made. I will try to find sources for Europe hardware sales though.



I think the PS3 will end up winning in 2011, but not by much, and 360 will have some good momentum going into 2012.



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thx1139 said:
SlipperyMooseCakes said:

 

WW360 DEC 10TH- 851,678

WWPS3 DEC 10TH- 704,669

Difference: +147,009 for Xbox 360

 

WW360 DEC 20TH- 766,126

WWPS3 DEC 20TH- 343,886

Difference: +422,240 for Xbox 360

 

As of Dec 3rd the gap between the Xbox and PS3 was +806,000 in the PS3's favor.

147,009 + 422,240 = 569,249 more 360's sold in the past two weeks.

Which means, 806,000 - 569,249 = 236,751 is the current difference of consoles sold in the PS3's favor. There are still 11 days of sales left in the month to be calculated.

 

I assume by Dec 20th you mean week ending 12/17 which had numbers just start going up on the 20th. Those numbers are not complete yet. So the difference in 360 favor will shrink. Also believe adjustments for November arent included in your figures. Those increased PS3 lead by about 150K. It is looking like the PS3 will be ahead by about 525K as of Dec 17th.


525k is going to be a tough number to pull and on top of that 50k another 50k needs to be added on (just for the U.S.A.) as I have calculated the November VGC and November NPD numbers just for the PS3. As Xbox 360 sales are perfectly in line with media crate and NPD.

November NPD: 900K

VGC November 2011 4 week sales: 850k (Nov-5th-Nov-26th)



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dsage01 said:
thx1139 said:
SlipperyMooseCakes said:

 

WW360 DEC 10TH- 851,678

WWPS3 DEC 10TH- 704,669

Difference: +147,009 for Xbox 360

 

WW360 DEC 20TH- 766,126

WWPS3 DEC 20TH- 343,886

Difference: +422,240 for Xbox 360

 

As of Dec 3rd the gap between the Xbox and PS3 was +806,000 in the PS3's favor.

147,009 + 422,240 = 569,249 more 360's sold in the past two weeks.

Which means, 806,000 - 569,249 = 236,751 is the current difference of consoles sold in the PS3's favor. There are still 11 days of sales left in the month to be calculated.

 

I assume by Dec 20th you mean week ending 12/17 which had numbers just start going up on the 20th. Those numbers are not complete yet. So the difference in 360 favor will shrink. Also believe adjustments for November arent included in your figures. Those increased PS3 lead by about 150K. It is looking like the PS3 will be ahead by about 525K as of Dec 17th.


525k is going to be a tough number to pull and on top of that 50k another 50k needs to be added on (just for the U.S.A.) as I have calculated the November VGC and November NPD numbers just for the PS3. As Xbox 360 sales are perfectly in line with media crate and NPD.

November NPD: 900K

VGC November 2011 4 week sales: 850k (Nov-5th-Nov-26th)

Adjustments based on the November NPD have already been made.  Read this thread they are discussed.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Ability for 360 to overcome the 525K will come down to are the deals enough.

Last week the PS3 had the following deals:

PS3 160GB Harry Potter BluRay Bundle $249 includes $50 gift card -12/15-12/17 - Amazon
PS3 320GB includes $50 gift card -12/15 - 12/17 - Amazon
PS3 320 Uncharted 3 bundle purchased with a Greatest Hits Combo gets $50 gift card - Best Buy
PS3 320GB $299.99 includes $20 gift card - Target
PS3 320GB $349.99 includes $100 gift card - Walmart
PS3 160 GB includes $50 gift card - Kmart

This week the PS3 has the following deals:

PS3 Uncharted 3 Bundles $299.99 includes $10 gift card - Target
PS3 320GB Uncharted Bundle includes $50 gift card and Uncharted 1/2 dual pack  - Best Buy

That is a big difference. Compared to 360 deals last week:

360 MW3 Bundle includes $75 gift card - 12/14 - Amazon
360 4GB $199 includes $50 gift card -12/14 - Amazon
360 4GB Kinect Bundle $299 includes $80 gift card - 12/15-12/17 - Amazon
360 250GB  Kinect Bundle $399 includes $75 gift card -12/15-12/16 - Amazon
360 4GB $199.99 and includes $75 gift card - Microsoft Store
360 4GB with Kinect $299.99 and includes $100 gift card - Microsoft Store
360 250GB with Kinect $399.99 and includes $100 gift card - Microsoft Store
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $60 gift card - Toys R Us
360 250GB Holiday Bundle includes $75 gift card - Best Buy
360 320GB Gears 3 Bundles Bundle includes $75 gift card - Best Buy
360 320GB MW3 Bundles Bundle includes $75 gift card - Best Buy
360 4GB includes $50 gift card - Best Buy
360 Gears 3 Bundle $299.99 - Costco
360 4GB Kinect $299.99 includes $80 gift card - Target
360 250GB Kinect Bundle $399.99 includes $100 gift card - Walmart
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $50 gift card - Target

And this week for the 360..Not as many deals, but $100 gift cards everywhere.

360 4GB includes $50 gift card - Amazon
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $100 gift card - Amazon
360 250GB Kinect Bundles includes $75 gift card - Amazon
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $100 gift card  - Walmart
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $40 gift card through Tuesday -Kmart
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes - $100 gift card starting Wednesday - Kmart
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $60 gift card - Best Buy
360 4GB $199.99 includes $50 gift card - Best Buy
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $100 gift card - Best Buy
360 250GB Kinect Bundle includes $100 gift card - Microsoft Store
360 4GB includes $75 gift card - Microsoft Store
360 4GB includes $50 gift card - Target
360 320GB Gears 3 bundle $299 - Costco

Forgive the bold. Couldnt get it to go away

 



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

europe and ap really save ps3 from getting toppeled this year. It seems PS3 always gain 200k in those two regions. Even with all the sales of the x360 I dont think it will be able to push the NPD numbers the 900k+ to counter 200k weekly global ps3 gain pattern



dsage01 said:
Just a note to be added. PS3 is undertracked 50k just in the U.S.A. (Basing on NPD November numbers) and the Wii is overtracked by 150k just in the U.S.A. (again just basing on NPD November numbers) I know I have no "real" figures for this but considering and looking at the deals (for hardware) and software in Europe (GFK) PS3 and 360 both look underestimated the PS3 more so. So I don't think it's exactly safe to call any console "the best selling console of 2011" untill there aren't proper adjustments made. I will try to find sources for Europe hardware sales though.

PLEASE stop coming into every thread and calling everything undertracked/overtracked because of NPD numbers! It's been said a billion times how NPD isn't 100% accurate so we will not follow it 100%. 



So 525k left with 360 winning next week and likely a tie the week after. Not going to happen