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So the soon to be elected two term President of Russia Vladimir Putin is already talking about what he hopes to achieve as President in his next term. President Putin wants a EU formed from all of the Soviet states, creating the Eurasian Union with no trade barriers and hopefully a single currency in the future.

Putin sees this as a way to counter the EU and US influence on the global economy and bring Russia back to power. Puttin has said recently that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century," however he clarified that this new Soviet Union wouldn't be a return of the Soviet Union "There is no talk about rebuilding the USSR in one way or another," Putin said. "It would be naive to try to restore or copy something that belongs to the past, but a close integration based on new values and economic and political foundation is a demand of the present time."

Unfortunately for Putin many of the Soviet states including Ukraine are very skeptical and not likely to join any future Soviet (Eurasian) Union. To avoid any misunderstandings Putin defined the new union in greater detail.  "We aren't going to stop at that and are putting forward an ambitious task of reaching a new, higher level of integration with the Eurasian Union," Belarus and Kazakhstan are the first two countries to sign up for trade barriers to be lifted and the formation of this new Union. Putin expects Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan to join shortly after the Union starts in Jan.

Alexander Dugin, a political scholar and a longtime proponent of Russian expansionism said "From the geopolitical viewpoint it represents an attempt to revive the USSR"

So what do you think? Putin has in the past talked about how he would have liked to see the Soviet Union continue, now he wants to create a new Union including all of the former Soviet states. Would a new Eurasia Union be a good thing for global stability? Would it benefit the former Soviet states as much as it would Russia? Would the formation of a new Soviet (Eurasia) Union be a step backwards in Russia's movement towards democracy and freedoms and away from the tyranny of its past Government?

Whats your opinion, what is Putin's goal in creating this union? Is it really that admirable or is there something sinister sitting under the carpet?

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I think we should be more worried about Communist Canada invading the US then this...



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

Pandering, mostly. There's nothing the Russian people like to hear more than "The Soviet Union will return but without the Communism"



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Seems like a good idea for a reality TV show. The EU's terrible demographic situation is interesting enough, sure, but what happens when supranational entities stop politely teetering on the precipice and start death spiraling for real?



Looking at the news, it's Russia he should take care of first.



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spurgeonryan said:
I think this would be a great idea! Get some of these countries up there that are still struggling after years of devastation and fighter a better chance. if it works as well as the EU has then everything should be better. I wonder how it would help tourism?

Really now? As well as?

The only coherent union there could be there is one of Russia-Ukraine-Belarus-Kazakhstan-Azerbaijan - this one would actually end up economically benefecial for all parties involved.



how did the Soviet Union collapse anyways?

or "why" did it collapse?



Vova, my dear, what new values? What cooperation? I'm at a loss :D

The ABC of latest political history I'm sure you know: a) last attemp to cultivate new values 20 smth years ago despite obvious damage in the past (info war known as glasnost) haven't left a mark in today's social consciousness as smth worthy; b) modern politikum, the brainchaild of Gorbachev's perestroika, and that in turn, XXth Congress of the KPSS, are the main beneficiary of those new values; c) same goes for national elites of limitrophe states.

Morale? Rebuild elites first, they're not unite and easily manageable at this point.

enditall727, some hints are in my post (too lazy to elaborate in detail, maybe later).



 

Wish i could find a better (and english) version of this.



I don't think a Euroasian union would be such a bad idea if its power is devided equally between the members, but I have a feeling that isn't exactly what Putin has in mind...