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Porcupine_I said:


This is one of the worst things I've ever seen - EVER. How could you post something like this?

Do I really need to tell you that water comes from hydrogen and if I drink a glass of water I DON'T magically 'use up' this hydrogen? The only place hydrogen 'disappears' is on the sun and in a nuclear fusion reactor where hydrogen + hydrogen is fused to form helium and eventually other heavier elements all the way up to uranium etc. This is in fact where all the earth's elements are formed.

Nothwistanding the fact that the earth is bombarded with a host of particles that could over time increase the amount of hydrogen on the planet. You know hydrogen is just a proton and an electron riiiggghhht?

Add some basic thermodynamics into this picture and you have a earth who's liquid water supply varies with time based on it's composite thermic state and as such will not decrease or increase indefinitely - It'll vary around some constant value for extended periods of time. IF AT ALL the end result of this sinusoidial wave goes to zero or (theoretical) infinity at infinite time, then that time scale would be on the order of billions of years at least.

Now you got this from someone, and I would suggest that the persone who made this is an imbecile not worth listening to. Rather quote Michael Behe ok - who, despite the propaganda against him, actually has a really good point that statisticians clearly understand much better than biologists.



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Porcupine_I said:

you  just loss 10 points of IQ.



finalrpgfantasy said:
Porcupine_I said:

you  just loss 10 points of IQ.


More like 10^2.

Now even if drinking water would permanently deplete it (see my post above) then he is still assuming A CONSTANT POPULATION OF 6 BILLION PEOPLE which is a rather odd assumption.

Any other things wrong with this that you see?



Dr.Grass said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
Porcupine_I said:

you  just loss 10 points of IQ.


More like 10^2.

Now even if drinking water would permanently deplete it (see my post above) then he is still assuming A CONSTANT POPULATION OF 6 BILLION PEOPLE which is a rather odd assumption.

Any other things wrong with this that you see?

I have never seen a more perfect failure at using science to prove science wrong. I am dumbfounded. To bad I am to tired to go into detail about how ludicrous this is. I will just say that H20 is constantly being recycled. Oh my god.



Porcupine_I said:

LOOOOOOL I hope you sent this because it was funny or you're just trolling. That's hilariously silly. I'm 15 and I know how the water cycle works.



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chocoloco said:
Dr.Grass said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
Porcupine_I said:

you  just loss 10 points of IQ.


More like 10^2.

Now even if drinking water would permanently deplete it (see my post above) then he is still assuming A CONSTANT POPULATION OF 6 BILLION PEOPLE which is a rather odd assumption.

Any other things wrong with this that you see?

I have never seen a more perfect failure at using science to prove science wrong. I am dumbfounded. To bad I am to tired to go into detail about how ludicrous this is. I will just say that H20 is constantly being recycled. Oh my god.


I assume this was a joke, as it not only has scientific facts wrong but Biblical facts wrong. It specifically says the Bible says Earth is 7,000 years old where in reality no where does the Bible state how old the earth in. Biblical scholars have deducted that based on time lines within the Bible that the human race may be only 7,000 or 6,000 years old. Which honestly do to the fact the Bible doesn't have a year by year time line isn't 100% accurate either.

Nobody knows how long the earth has been existence. I find it funny when people say the Earth is 6,000-7,000 years old based on the Bible. Having gone to Christian school till grade 9, even I am very aware that this isn't based on anything more then theory. Even the ages of the humans back in the Bible have to be taken into account. The Bible timeline covers a very large amount of time, in fact the original Hebrew predates the Roman calendar. The concept of years and such and months etc...etc.. changed multiple times during the Bible's coverage.

Fact is all we can do is make guesses based on our own interpretations of scripture. The Bible doesn't specifically say anything as to how long the earth has been around. My guess is the Earth could be billions of years old, in fact Evolution probably occurred (In forms I still don't think there is enough evidence to support Macro evolution).

Its foolish to judge the Bible or support the Bible with the whole 6,000-7,000 year crap.

Again these religious and anti-religious threads are just stupid. As for the comment as to religious groups being fanboys and that is why people are being driven to atheism. That's not true either since Atheists act just as juvenile on a regular basis. In fact the most logical group I find is agnostics, they actually realize that they can't prove anything and rather then attacking or defending beliefs they simply sit back and watch everyone argue.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

Porcupine_I said:


Hahah best laugh I had in awhile. I really hope you posted this for comedic relief, otherwise it's a massive fail.



chapset said:
justinian said:

Speculative science and religion. All giving us crap that can't be proven either way meaning there is no difference between the two.

I am all for science, don't get me wrong but for every learned scientists that produce theories on earth's past there are as many just as learned that disagree and produce totally different theories.
Whichever theory the press decides to back then becomes the "fact".

The truth is any scientists would admit "we don't really know" but for some reason many take these theories as fact because the scientists said so, not much different from the days when people believed nonsense because the priest said so

the press lol! are you saying the media are the one doing science lol if it wasn't from CNN the theorie of evolution would have never catch on lol
it's true for many theories and laws out there you can find one that said the complete oposite but scientist don't pick up theorie because it's in vogue, they pick it up because it's explain the most what they are studying and 99% of the times thoses theories are back up by phenomene or experience you can chek for yourself, there's faith in science but if that faith is not back up buy some hard data at some point that theorie will just crumble and die for exemple when it was first stated that light wasn't just a wave length but was also made of matter the scientific community accept it but they didn't just stop there they try to find a way to test that theorie and it was later proven during an eclipse of the sun a few years later.


I am going to pretend that you are being deliberately awkward and missing my point. But just in case....

The way most people (those billions out there getting on with their lives) hear of modern scientific breakthroughs is through the press, they don't buy Science or Astronomic magazines but usually read or hear about it in or on mainstream TV, documentaries and press... is that so difficult to grasp.. my God!

What's evolution and CNN got to do with anything and where did I say the media are the ones doing the science?

As for the rest of your statement forgive me for not bothering to respond.



STILL AMAZED OF HOW MANY BLIND PEOPLE ARE STILL EXISTING IN A "MODERN SOCIATY"....

HONESTLY RELIGIUOS PEOPLE WOULD BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO...
OOOpPPS SORRY THIS IS WHAT RELIGION IS BELIEVE
NO WONDER WHY SO MANY TIMES WE SO MASS SUICIDE IN NAME OF A GOD!!!
(AND DO NOT EVEN START BECAUSE ALL RELIGIONS HAVE DOEN IT; IF U BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THIS HORRIBLE GOD REQUESTED LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE) ( IMEAN HE WAS REALLY PISSED OFF IN THE FIRST PART, THEN WHEN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND JESUS CHRIST ARRIVED, ALL BECAME MORE LOVELY AND SOFT)

SOOOO SAD!!!!!!!
REALLY SAD!!!!
DEPRESSING!!!

WHY GOD DOES NOT COME SOON(er) AND TAKE THE SOULS OF ALL THIS BELIEVER AWAY????
BETTER WORLD FOR ALL OF US!

JUST A SUGGESTION!



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Andrespetmonkey said:
Porcupine_I said:

LOOOOOOL I hope you sent this because it was funny or you're just trolling. That's hilariously silly. I'm 15 and I know how the water cycle works.

Bingo!

this one is so wrong on so many levels that i didn't think anyone would actually seriously discuss it, appearently i was wrong.

 

but to anyone saying that neither religion nor science does not prove anything:

science is not something i have to believe, but it is something i can verify for myself if i want. i can observe how nature works and come to my own conclusions, i can add one apple to another and discover i have 2 apples, i can pour water on a hill and discover it flows downward, and i can do that with all scientific theories, i may find some to be right and others to be wrong, but it is not something someone said a long time ago and i am still expected to believe it today without verification.

As for religion i do not have that possibility, i have to believe what i am told by others.

 



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’