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Lyrikalstylez said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
why are people so looking forward to new consoles? if you are that interested in graphical improvements, then get a freaking PC.


Consoles and PCs don't get the same games. 


indeed, thats why we don't need new consoles, and thats why i've said if people only care about graphical improvements then they should get a PC.

If I took your advice I'd miss out on tons of console exclusive games. Unless you think it's feasable for everyone on the planet to switch to PC gaming in an instant, it makes sense to understand the reality of the industry, and hope for realistic things. 

can you please read my post again?

i SAID, why do people care about graphic capabilites so much ? consoles aren't made for graphics, if you want a new console so badly because of the graphics then get a PC.

now i don't want to repeat myself again jeez.


give it a rest yeeeeeeesh........Theres a reason why others, including myself dont care for pc gaming

I think he's just trying to say that consoles are not designed for max graphics at the time in which they are released, if people are such graphic enthuists, they'd most likely have a high end PC, the talks of zomg console graphics is generally pretty silly tbh, I personally look past a lot of graphical flaws when I play console games because I know they are weaker, to be more precise, I was only impressed by Uncharted 2 so far as a game on consoles this gen, and it wasn't based on graphics alone, Uncharted 3 is looking to be better, but those 2 games are about it, good games will be good games, impressive games are better, graphics talk on consoles have always been silly after all these years for me.



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dahuman said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
why are people so looking forward to new consoles? if you are that interested in graphical improvements, then get a freaking PC.


Consoles and PCs don't get the same games. 


indeed, thats why we don't need new consoles, and thats why i've said if people only care about graphical improvements then they should get a PC.

If I took your advice I'd miss out on tons of console exclusive games. Unless you think it's feasable for everyone on the planet to switch to PC gaming in an instant, it makes sense to understand the reality of the industry, and hope for realistic things. 

can you please read my post again?

i SAID, why do people care about graphic capabilites so much ? consoles aren't made for graphics, if you want a new console so badly because of the graphics then get a PC.

now i don't want to repeat myself again jeez.


give it a rest yeeeeeeesh........Theres a reason why others, including myself dont care for pc gaming

I think he's just trying to say that consoles are not designed for max graphics at the time in which they are released, if people are such graphic enthuists, they'd most likely have a high end PC, the talks of zomg console graphics is generally pretty silly tbh, I personally look past a lot of graphical flaws when I play console games because I know they are weaker, to be more precise, I was only impressed by Uncharted 2 so far as a game on consoles this gen, and it wasn't based on graphics alone, Uncharted 3 is looking to be better, but those 2 games are about it, good games will be good games, impressive games are better, graphics talk on consoles have always been silly after all these years for me.


oh my god finally someone gets it =/



dahuman said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
why are people so looking forward to new consoles? if you are that interested in graphical improvements, then get a freaking PC.


Consoles and PCs don't get the same games. 


indeed, thats why we don't need new consoles, and thats why i've said if people only care about graphical improvements then they should get a PC.

If I took your advice I'd miss out on tons of console exclusive games. Unless you think it's feasable for everyone on the planet to switch to PC gaming in an instant, it makes sense to understand the reality of the industry, and hope for realistic things. 

can you please read my post again?

i SAID, why do people care about graphic capabilites so much ? consoles aren't made for graphics, if you want a new console so badly because of the graphics then get a PC.

now i don't want to repeat myself again jeez.


give it a rest yeeeeeeesh........Theres a reason why others, including myself dont care for pc gaming

I think he's just trying to say that consoles are not designed for max graphics at the time in which they are released, if people are such graphic enthuists, they'd most likely have a high end PC, the talks of zomg console graphics is generally pretty silly tbh, I personally look past a lot of graphical flaws when I play console games because I know they are weaker, to be more precise, I was only impressed by Uncharted 2 so far as a game on consoles this gen, and it wasn't based on graphics alone, Uncharted 3 is looking to be better, but those 2 games are about it, good games will be good games, impressive games are better, graphics talk on consoles have always been silly after all these years for me.


Everyone knows what PCs are capable of though. Why is it wrong to wish consoles had better graphics? There is a reason we don't still play NES. People want new consoles to see their favorite games evolve, it's that simple. Buying a PC wouldn't do that for many. Also a simple thing to understand. 



Edouble24 said:
dahuman said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
Edouble24 said:
PullusPardus said:
why are people so looking forward to new consoles? if you are that interested in graphical improvements, then get a freaking PC.


Consoles and PCs don't get the same games. 


indeed, thats why we don't need new consoles, and thats why i've said if people only care about graphical improvements then they should get a PC.

If I took your advice I'd miss out on tons of console exclusive games. Unless you think it's feasable for everyone on the planet to switch to PC gaming in an instant, it makes sense to understand the reality of the industry, and hope for realistic things. 

can you please read my post again?

i SAID, why do people care about graphic capabilites so much ? consoles aren't made for graphics, if you want a new console so badly because of the graphics then get a PC.

now i don't want to repeat myself again jeez.


give it a rest yeeeeeeesh........Theres a reason why others, including myself dont care for pc gaming

I think he's just trying to say that consoles are not designed for max graphics at the time in which they are released, if people are such graphic enthuists, they'd most likely have a high end PC, the talks of zomg console graphics is generally pretty silly tbh, I personally look past a lot of graphical flaws when I play console games because I know they are weaker, to be more precise, I was only impressed by Uncharted 2 so far as a game on consoles this gen, and it wasn't based on graphics alone, Uncharted 3 is looking to be better, but those 2 games are about it, good games will be good games, impressive games are better, graphics talk on consoles have always been silly after all these years for me.


Everyone knows what PCs are capable of though. Why is it wrong to wish consoles had better graphics? There is a reason we don't still play NES. People want new consoles to see their favorite games evolve, it's that simple. Buying a PC wouldn't do that for many. Also a simple thing to understand. 

I still play NES games sometimes lol =P My idea is simple, get a good job, buy what you want, all of a sudden these talks become stupid, give you one, do I want Xenoblade on HD consoles or PC? Of course, but does it make it a worse game for being on Wii? fuck no! That game is still the best JRPG of this gen regardless of graphics, I even dare to argue that this game would not have been as good had it gone to a higher quality of graphics as a matter of fact. You want to see better graphics, but that doesn't mean devs can deliver the same quality of game, there has to be a balance, and not every studio can manage that, so what you end up with are a bunch of generic shit all over the place with middlewares or dying/dead studios all over the place. Graphics don't always make games better, something as weak as the Wii can produce games like Super Mario Galaxy 2 which I still consider the best console game of this generation. I've also clearly stated before that I only truly care about graphics on PC, for good reasons, you would not buy or build a good PC if what you are looking for is not graphics, unless of course, all you play are flash games, then just grab an Android phone or something.



I do buy what I want, the argument is if we should want new consoles, because PCs can offer superior graphical capabilities. Of course we want new consoles, we want our form of gaming to continue to push forward. My favorite game is on Playstation 1, it doesn't mean I don't want things to evolve with technology. New consoles bring lots of new possibilities, graphics and improved performance is one.

I'm not really sure what you're arguing against, but it's normal to want to upgrade your console after 5+ years. I'm certainly hoping the next Xbox and PS release sooner rather than later, and buying a PC (which I have) wont replace a next gen console.



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Edouble24 said:
I do buy what I want, the argument is if we should want new consoles, because PCs can offer superior graphical capabilities. Of course we want new consoles, we want our form of gaming to continue to push forward. My favorite game is on Playstation 1, it doesn't mean I don't want things to evolve with technology. New consoles bring lots of new possibilities, graphics and improved performance is one.

I'm not really sure what you're arguing against, but it's normal to want to upgrade your console after 5+ years. I'm certainly hoping the next Xbox and PS release sooner rather than later, and buying a PC (which I have) wont replace a next gen console.


I buy consoles for 1st party games and JRPGs, that's about it, not because I want better graphics, but because they would stop making games for the older machines. Uncharted 2 is still the best shooter experience on consoles SP thus far though, I also don't like FPS on consoles in general, they are pretty much trash imo, Halo 3 was only good because I was gravity hammering like mad, which made it more like FPM than FPS.... Graphics on consoles is just not that important for me, I'm only paying a few hundred bucks for the machines, it's not supposed to rock my eyes out /shrug Expectations are always low, upgrade wouldn't be required if they just keep making good games for a few more years, the problem is the saturation point and they would stop making as much profit so they have to keep pumping out shit to keep consumers excited.

Next major PC move won't be until 2014 or so anyways, so I don't see new MS or Sony machines until, well, at least 2014.



what's so different between console's and pc's ive seen comparisons of battlefield 3 pc vs ps3 and they both look similar maybe it might be my laptop but there's really not much difference.



EGG_OF_D00m said:
what's so different between console's and pc's ive seen comparisons of battlefield 3 pc vs ps3 and they both look similar maybe it might be my laptop but there's really not much difference.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDDfPxF3EFE&hd=1

watch this in 1080p and ask yourself, do you think a PS3 can do all that with 64 players with a bigger map area at once?



I very much doubt he does. It's too soon for a PS4 or a NextBox.



Well another rumor did say that the next xbox would have avatar graphics.

Hopefully its true, MS should have the best graphics next gen, would get a lot of whiners on board :P



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.