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So I have recently been talking about how share holders at several game companies are making support of 3DS hell. But this got me thinking about Nintendo's own moronic share holders. You know the ones who want Nintendo to stop making hardware and go third party, the ones who according to 01net, share holders and some Nintendo staff want Iwata to be fired.

Share holders are idiots and their greed knows no bounds. Nintendo shares continue to drop since the announcements made this week. Infact shares dropped a further 5%. Share holders are upset that Nintendo is now operating at a loss.

Now of course this wouldn't be much of a problem if Nintendo was going to turn around in 2012. But they aren't going too fact is 3DS is being sold at a loss and its going to continue bleeding money for a few years until Nintendo can figure out a way to cut costs, even if software sales pick up on 3DS Nintendo will probably barely break even. Then there is the WiiU, it is not going to sell gangbusters at launch like Wii did if Nintendo's statements are credable. An expensive home console with a very pricey controller is going to have a very hard time selling to the Wii market. Even if WiiU did sell amazing the sales wouldn't be enough to dig Nintendo out of its current situation.

Nintendo will continue to bleed money for at least two or so more years. As Nintendo bleeds money these share holders will put more and more pressure on Nintendo. If these share holders succeed in firing Iwata and reshaping Nintendo they could forever change the company. I think Nintendo would be smart to use its 13-billion in reserves to buy back a 51% share in the company or at least ensure that moronic share holders do not control the company.

Do you think share holders could potentially make Nintendo third party if they put enough pressure on them? Are share holders a bigger threat to Nintendo's survival then Sony and Microsoft or even the smart phones? Could share holders and investors in Nintendo be the biggest threat to Nintendo's existance ever experianced in Nintendo's history.

I also have a question about this, with Nintendo having 13-billion in reserves. Can share holders actually take the company over? Do share holders actually have the power to fire Iwata or bring Nintendo out of the hardware business?

If share holders can , then they are the biggest threat Nintendo has ever faced. Maybe all of us gamers should go out and buy Nintendo stock and take out those moronic share holders once and for all!



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I thought only the board of directors could fire CEO's. Anyway, I agree with you. They should buy back their shares from these clueless people who only care about short-term gains. Nintendo's been around for a century, they know what the hell their doing. If I knew how and could afford to, I'd buy as many shares of Nintendo as I could.

Also, when it's revealed that Wii U will only cost 300-350USD and separate controllers wont cost more than 120, their shares will sky rocket.



Most shareholders are moronic inbreds. Of course the stock market is like a financial playground for retards anyway so I'm not surprised. Nintendo really should consider buying back some shares though. They really don't have enough control over there own fate. The day Mario appears on an iPhone are the days Nintendo cease being Nintendo and simply become 'Apple Japan' or 'EA Japan'. Shit, in other words.



LOL lots of hate to the shareholders I see, understandable though, trust me I know.

Well Nintendo is kind of in the crapper right now, but ya they've been around for like ever though they definitely know what they're doing.



           

RolStoppable said:

Not all shareholders are idiots and there sure are not enough idiots to force Nintendo to leave the hardware business and/or put games on smartphones.

Nintendo isn't losing as much money on 3DS hardware as you think.

Now the real biggest threat to Nintendo are the people who currently run the company. Just watch this:

http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/videos/#/Interview_with_Mr._Miyamoto%2C_Super_Mario_3D_Land

So to all you people who were expecting a new Super Mario Bros. game for the 3DS: It looks like it's not going to happen. The same goes for all other games Nintendo doesn't feel like making. This wouldn't be that big of a problem if we were talking about niche titles here, but we aren't and that's why it is going to be a major blow to the lifetime sales of the 3DS. One can only hope that Nintendo changes their mind sooner rather than later.

Wow, Miyamoto put on weight.

Anyway, I'll never understand Nintendo and how they use their IP.



 

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RolStoppable said:

Not all shareholders are idiots and there sure are not enough idiots to force Nintendo to leave the hardware business and/or put games on smartphones.

Nintendo isn't losing as much money on 3DS hardware as you think.

Now the real biggest threat to Nintendo are the people who currently run the company. Just watch this:

http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/videos/#/Interview_with_Mr._Miyamoto%2C_Super_Mario_3D_Land

So to all you people who were expecting a new Super Mario Bros. game for the 3DS: It looks like it's not going to happen. The same goes for all other games Nintendo doesn't feel like making. This wouldn't be that big of a problem if we were talking about niche titles here, but we aren't and that's why it is going to be a major blow to the lifetime sales of the 3DS. One can only hope that Nintendo changes their mind sooner rather than later.

I saw that video, basically they say their objective with SM3DL is to make a 3D game that feels like 2D. That doesn't necessarily exclude a NSMB in the future. Both the DS and the Wii had a New 3D mario before the 2D one. I could get it wrong but I think Iwata may at least know how to count, if a game sell +20millions it will likely get a sequel. Even the name may suggest it's just a spin-off. If they really want the 3D formula to overtake the 2D, why wouldn't call it New Super Mario Bros 3D or something? The fact that they scrapped "bros" and used "3D Land" in the name may be considered irrilevant but it means they still want to market it as a different game. Lastly, this game is made by the former Mario Galaxy studio, not the one in charge of NSMB. That one may likely be still developing a 2D mario. The New Super Mario Bros Mii demo, even if it's just a concept, shows they don't likely want to abandon the formula.



Wow this thread got derailed very quickly.



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1) Paranoid shareholders are just pawns cleverly used by speculators to mess with the whole world economy for the latter ones' exclusive benefit, why should Ninty be an exception?

2) 50% + 1 share still rule a company, whatever paranoids and speculators say, if they aren't part of the majority, and as suggested, if shares drop below what they should be reasonably worth, it's in the interest not only of speculators but also of responsible shareholders to buy shares back from scared paranoids.

3) If control of the company got lost, anything could happen, other companies could even take over Ninty, but I guess antitrust would prevent its direct rivals, MS and Sony from doing it, so the takeover could be made by some giant less involved in console and gaming market.



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Im pretty sure share parcels in the yen stock are still about 300 minimum (300 X 1200 yen = 5000 US$), so investors in the primary stock of the company aren't who expect them to be. In addition, most of the Jap. Stock is owned by Japanese private capital businesses, like Honda, etc, and 10% is owned by Yamauchi. US NTDOY OTC stock is only about 5 or 10% of the entire companies value, hence the cost of share parcels being smaller, and therefore negligible on the whole company.

The point is that most of Nintendo is owned by japanese companies, not american investors, so this whole argument about investor pressure on Nintendo Japan isn't very realistic.

If Nintendo has a great pre-Christmas period in Japan next month, and November, all these headlines will disappear. Im pretty sure Iwata has worked his hardest to ensure this will occur.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

me too. everyone will be happy as per 31/03/2012



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