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non-gravity said:
Hell I could ask for more Simulation and Strategy game on PC, like you guys here are asking for JRPGs, but the thing is their genres have just gone downhill and less of them are being made.


ok? JRPG's have not adapted to to this Gen very but it doesn't Mean genre is done or it cant rebound. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Pokemon few tri-Ace titles and in general well known JRPG are on point when it comes to sells( though outside of DQ there was no growth) and titles like Atelier and possibly Tales with Xillia will be are xxperiencing a growth for there series. JRPG isnt all bad... but a Renaissance is definitely in need of happening.

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You forgot the crap-load of shovelware of the PS2 as well.



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
rf40928 said:
Xxain said:
This thread really opens my eyes futher to how little PS3 has accomplish in being anywhere near its Godly predecessor


Well, we all had PS2's.. but people never reason why .. It was sort of the perfect storm.. PS1 had already taken alot of the previous champs market share and paved the way for PS2.  the new DVD format was  100% agree'd on and established an entire year before the PS2 was released..  So PS2 was also looked at as the best value at launch.. it cost pretty much the same as a "High End" Dvd player.... Consider the more powerful PS2 also competed against a underpowered game cube.. and MS's more powerful XB 1 was launched over 1.5 years after PS2's launch, thus not only being that late, but being a new competitor MS had very little developer support.  Very few developers wanted to break loyalty and cross the line on a console with a much smaller userbase..  So PS2 had alot going for it.. 

The problem with the PS3 is Sony viewed it as the world was the same and it would sell on loyalty alone at any cost.. but bluray was not established ( although with the PS3's help it did become that way ) ... Sony made the PS3 too expensive at launch - too much money went into engineering CELL only to pair CELL with a weaker GPU - when games are mostly GPU reliant, not CPU reliant..this made little sense.  Thus developers have to take the load from the GPU with optimizations for CELL... In the end they made a console which is no more powerful ( as a whole ) then the Xbox 360.  If CELL had real and FREQUENT advantages in games then CPU makers that have more experience ( like Intel ) wouldve done CELL like CPU's a long time ago.. but Sony felt DEVELOPERS would all say we dont mind doing it the hard way, we dont mind doing extra work to tap this things power..  I feel Sony could've made alot of us old fans that had PS2's happy if they would've made the PS3 with a more contemporary CPU which could've been as powerful or more powerful ( which wouldve been cheaper ) and not cut cost in other parts of the PS3 ( like the GPU )... and still had bluray in there... Basically CELL's power is being held back by the GPU of the console..

The PS3 is still a very good console.. Sony seems to have launched the PS3 as if they were still competing in a 2 console market.. I guess since XB1 was late and thus only sold ( 20 million ?) they figured MS was no threat.. Sony and EVERYONE completely underestimated Nintendo's comeback..  When you have 3 console makers ALL selling alot of console its very hard to to get the kind of numbers the PS2 did.. Thats why the Wii is behind the PS2.. If you subtract just part of Xbox 360's sales ... say the 30 million in America.. or the 20+ million in EMEAA and add it to the PS3's sales... or add to the Wii's sales..Its a completely different picture ! ..  You'd either be looking at a PS3 with 80 million consoles worldwide or a Wii with over 100 million wordwide..I think the PS3's overpriced and botched launch has definately paved the way for things to be similar in the next generation because many of those previously loyal to the PS2 went out and bought a competitors product and many of those will do it again next gen..  I had a PS3 for awhile.. I didnt like how Sony tried to sell us the "Vibration" controller was old tech and thus it was the reason they didnt have shock at first for the PS3... Then it came out later Sony settled the lawsuit with the company that owns that technology and thus now could release Dual Shock again.. If there hadnt been such an outcry they might have never cared to settle.. I felt they thought anyone would buy whatever they put out because they were the Sony that put out PS2..

the second paragraph intrust me the most, but the third is exactly wht i was thinking, and IMO thats the aproach Nintendo is taking now.

some manufactures never learn or is it all? 

so wht console do you own now?

I started out with all 3 consoles ... got rid of the Wii first as it looked horrible on my 60 inch HD and the game play was not really what i wanted... I sold it to my brother ( who still has all three of this gens consoles and loves them all - he owns a minumum of 20 games on each console ) .. I next sold my PS3 on craigs list because at the time I was needing cash and wanted to buy more 360 games..I got good money because at the time it was still exspensive to buy a PS3...  I sorta wish i had kept all the consoles.. but financially I had too much debt.. Im hoping next Generation to have all 3 consoles.. but at least the next Xbox and PS4..  Ive kinda become loyal to the 360 because its my sole console now, but I still think the PS3 is a good system.. I just cant stand some of the comments that convey pure fanboyism and ignorance rolled into one..



Cirio said:
You forgot the crap-load of shovelware of the PS2 as well.

I've always thought that too, there was just so much CRAP.



its already utterly destroyed the ps2's collection in my book.



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Squall_Leonhart said:
It needs a Final Fantasy game that isn't linear and actually allows you to control all the damn characters in the battles!! Something along the lines of X would be nice


and they need to bring back the damn world map AND the card game system

i also miss being able to CONTROL the airship's, boat's and what not on the world map

and how the chocobo segment's did not have as much depth as ff7 and 9

i loved Final Fantasy 10 but i was like "wtf" when i noticed all those thing's were gone when i 1st played it



Acevil said:
Xxain said:
it's needs to stop pretending to be a xbox and be playstation.


Another mistake is assuming that franchises are exactly the same worth as they were last generation. I would never compare GTA4 to GTA3, VC, SA. 

Or the crazy amount of JRPGs last generation for the playstation. Seven .hack games, two grandia games, four suikoden games, and a bunch of others. (I don't want to list all of the franchises.)

I will also add, one doesn't need to compare itself to the playstation 2. The playstation 3 has done wonderful on its own, a bit too much like the xbox as xxain mentioned but still wonderful. 


i would just like to see atleast 1 of each game for ps3

 

like their were 7 .hack game's. i would just like to see atleast 1 for ps3:)



i agree with everybody posting in this thread



brendude13 said:
Xxain said:
it's needs to stop pretending to be a xbox and be playstation.

This, they are just stealing ideas, they need to differentiate themselves from eachother.

I don't want Killzone (no offence to the people that do), I want games similar to what made the PS1 and PS2 so great. I think the PS3 games line-up for 2012 is a step in the right direction though.

As for this list, it's a great idea, but many of those classics will never be seen again and there are other franchises which are new, bigger and better than the franchises which haven't been seen yet on the Playstation 3. But still, there isn't enough, I don't necessarily want every one of those franchises on that list, just something in the same genre with equal quality.

YES EXACTLY!



Xen said:
Valid arguments, but no point in this thread, it doesn't stand anything close to a chance of overcoming the greatest console there is and will ever be.


i never said it had to "overcome" the ps2. i said "ATLEAST comparable"