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sapphi_snake on 20 August 2011
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
dany612 said:

The bigger picture is that while we don't close the borders, illegal immigrants from latin America and Asia will continue to flood in. The U.S can't afford to gather all those already here and send them back.

it needs to be a mix off both,stop the immigration and also deport as the immigrants wil change US's culture.

many weak minded people might take this but people who rpide amrica as a nation and thing of it as there like people of europe and china and japan thing of their land as their own,they will keep america as it is



The Us's culture will change regardless, unless the country stagnates and falls into irrelevance.

that way every country's culture chang which is called a trend and to evolve with age

not completely flip

for example you don't will never see the kind of culture chnage in AUSTRALIA,JAPAN,CHINA,GERMANY,RUSSIA.

The US is an immigrant country, and their culture is a result of the cultures of immigrants mixing together.

no it isn't

yeah somewhat it was  in 1900's but they all mostly came from the same background,europe and they formed a culture identity

that way every country before its inception and culture forming was immigrant country

once the culture is set then its their land

Many 'weak minded' xenophobes don't really seem to get thiss however.

selling away your identity and culture is being weak,people who just go along with whatever will happen thinking go down.

culture clashes never end up good,history shows this and till today it is relevant

Also, I somehow doubt you'd manage to get US citizenship (or citizenship in your native South Africa for that matter), which such a handling of the English language.Most illegals can write more intelligibly than yourself.

oooooh

i really don't know where you get that from

and it isn't my english,but my typing skills and i don't need to be that formal on the internet which slangs and garbage english is accepted.

and i am not from south africa

Immigrants don't make cultures 'completely flip'. And what makes you think Mexicans have this weird exotic culture? They're the result of European colonialism also.



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snakenobi on 20 August 2011
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
dany612 said:

The bigger picture is that while we don't close the borders, illegal immigrants from latin America and Asia will continue to flood in. The U.S can't afford to gather all those already here and send them back.

it needs to be a mix off both,stop the immigration and also deport as the immigrants wil change US's culture.

many weak minded people might take this but people who rpide amrica as a nation and thing of it as there like people of europe and china and japan thing of their land as their own,they will keep america as it is



The Us's culture will change regardless, unless the country stagnates and falls into irrelevance.

that way every country's culture chang which is called a trend and to evolve with age

not completely flip

for example you don't will never see the kind of culture chnage in AUSTRALIA,JAPAN,CHINA,GERMANY,RUSSIA.

The US is an immigrant country, and their culture is a result of the cultures of immigrants mixing together.

no it isn't

yeah somewhat it was  in 1900's but they all mostly came from the same background,europe and they formed a culture identity

that way every country before its inception and culture forming was immigrant country

once the culture is set then its their land

Many 'weak minded' xenophobes don't really seem to get thiss however.

selling away your identity and culture is being weak,people who just go along with whatever will happen thinking go down.

culture clashes never end up good,history shows this and till today it is relevant

Also, I somehow doubt you'd manage to get US citizenship (or citizenship in your native South Africa for that matter), which such a handling of the English language.Most illegals can write more intelligibly than yourself.

oooooh

i really don't know where you get that from

and it isn't my english,but my typing skills and i don't need to be that formal on the internet which slangs and garbage english is accepted.

and i am not from south africa

Immigrants don't make cultures 'completely flip'. And what makes you think Mexicans have this weird exotic culture? They're the result of European colonialism also.

immigrants who are undeucated and just come for a big life do create problem as they don't assimilate do make the culture flip if they come in big quantities and keep producing children and their children are not taught american way of living but mexicana.

i am not attacking them so don't take it as that,just saying

mexicans are a mix of native indian and european culture.

mexicans who come and take up the language and work properly are fine but mostly they don't and also if they keep on coming where will the country's job's will go?

 

why should one country lie down and let other people take over,i am talking from the side of US.a culture have every right to protect itself

 

sorry for my typing again,i write in haste and don't correct it as i think you could understand what i say



sapphi_snake on 20 August 2011
snakenobi said:

immigrants who are undeucated and just come for a big life do create problem as they don't assimilate do make the culture flip if they come in big quantities and keep producing children and their children are not taught american way of living but mexicana.

i am not attacking them so don't take it as that,just saying

mexicans are a mix of native indian and european culture.

mexicans who come and take up the language and work properly are fine but mostly they don't and also if they keep on coming where will the country's job's will go?

 

why should one country lie down and let other people take over,i am talking from the side of US.a culture have every right to protect itself

 

sorry for my typing again,i write in haste and don't correct it as i think you could understand what i say


This here is just good old fashioned paranoia.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

smbu2000 on 20 August 2011

Even if he doesn't try to go for full US citizenship, he's married to a US citizen, so he should be able to get a spousal visa. That should be easier in comparison to citizenship, so I'm not sure why he doesn't get one of those.




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snakenobi on 20 August 2011
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

immigrants who are undeucated and just come for a big life do create problem as they don't assimilate do make the culture flip if they come in big quantities and keep producing children and their children are not taught american way of living but mexicana.

i am not attacking them so don't take it as that,just saying

mexicans are a mix of native indian and european culture.

mexicans who come and take up the language and work properly are fine but mostly they don't and also if they keep on coming where will the country's job's will go?

 

why should one country lie down and let other people take over,i am talking from the side of US.a culture have every right to protect itself

 

sorry for my typing again,i write in haste and don't correct it as i think you could understand what i say


This here is just good old fashioned paranoia.


and this is always throughout history ignorance which leads to shit



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sapphi_snake on 20 August 2011
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

immigrants who are undeucated and just come for a big life do create problem as they don't assimilate do make the culture flip if they come in big quantities and keep producing children and their children are not taught american way of living but mexicana.

i am not attacking them so don't take it as that,just saying

mexicans are a mix of native indian and european culture.

mexicans who come and take up the language and work properly are fine but mostly they don't and also if they keep on coming where will the country's job's will go?

 

why should one country lie down and let other people take over,i am talking from the side of US.a culture have every right to protect itself

 

sorry for my typing again,i write in haste and don't correct it as i think you could understand what i say


This here is just good old fashioned paranoia.


and this is always throughout history ignorance which leads to shit

If we go by history, then it's still you being paranoic. In the US every half century has a particular group of immigrants they hate and fear. In the past it was the Irish. Now it's Mexicans. The US wasn't destroyed by the former, and won't be by the latter.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

snakenobi on 20 August 2011
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

immigrants who are undeucated and just come for a big life do create problem as they don't assimilate do make the culture flip if they come in big quantities and keep producing children and their children are not taught american way of living but mexicana.

i am not attacking them so don't take it as that,just saying

mexicans are a mix of native indian and european culture.

mexicans who come and take up the language and work properly are fine but mostly they don't and also if they keep on coming where will the country's job's will go?

 

why should one country lie down and let other people take over,i am talking from the side of US.a culture have every right to protect itself

 

sorry for my typing again,i write in haste and don't correct it as i think you could understand what i say


This here is just good old fashioned paranoia.


and this is always throughout history ignorance which leads to shit

If we go by history, then it's still you being paranoic. In the US every half century has a particular group of immigrants they hate and fear. In the past it was the Irish. Now it's Mexicans. The US wasn't destroyed by the former, and won't be by the latter.

irish came to US for a good life and accepted it way of life

mexicans who do this are alright but schools starting to print brocchures in other languages than english shows you where its going.

also it is also a job problem that people from other countries come in take jobs



dany612 on 20 August 2011
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

immigrants who are undeucated and just come for a big life do create problem as they don't assimilate do make the culture flip if they come in big quantities and keep producing children and their children are not taught american way of living but mexicana.

i am not attacking them so don't take it as that,just saying

mexicans are a mix of native indian and european culture.

mexicans who come and take up the language and work properly are fine but mostly they don't and also if they keep on coming where will the country's job's will go?

 

why should one country lie down and let other people take over,i am talking from the side of US.a culture have every right to protect itself

 

sorry for my typing again,i write in haste and don't correct it as i think you could understand what i say


This here is just good old fashioned paranoia.


and this is always throughout history ignorance which leads to shit

If we go by history, then it's still you being paranoic. In the US every half century has a particular group of immigrants they hate and fear. In the past it was the Irish. Now it's Mexicans. The US wasn't destroyed by the former, and won't be by the latter.

irish came to US for a good life and accepted it way of life

mexicans who do this are alright but schools starting to print brocchures in other languages than english shows you where its going.

also it is also a job problem that people from other countries come in take jobs

What's wrong with being a bilingual country? The more you know the better.



 

        

snakenobi on 20 August 2011
dany612 said:
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

immigrants who are undeucated and just come for a big life do create problem as they don't assimilate do make the culture flip if they come in big quantities and keep producing children and their children are not taught american way of living but mexicana.

i am not attacking them so don't take it as that,just saying

mexicans are a mix of native indian and european culture.

mexicans who come and take up the language and work properly are fine but mostly they don't and also if they keep on coming where will the country's job's will go?

 

why should one country lie down and let other people take over,i am talking from the side of US.a culture have every right to protect itself

 

sorry for my typing again,i write in haste and don't correct it as i think you could understand what i say


This here is just good old fashioned paranoia.


and this is always throughout history ignorance which leads to shit

If we go by history, then it's still you being paranoic. In the US every half century has a particular group of immigrants they hate and fear. In the past it was the Irish. Now it's Mexicans. The US wasn't destroyed by the former, and won't be by the latter.

irish came to US for a good life and accepted it way of life

mexicans who do this are alright but schools starting to print brocchures in other languages than english shows you where its going.

also it is also a job problem that people from other countries come in take jobs

What's wrong with being a bilingual country? The more you know the better.

how old are you?

why is there wrong with anything,stop asking so stupid questions

 

bilingual is a problem as then communtities and as we know it partition happens.

yeah i your primary is one language and as hobby you learn another then its fine but that isn't whats happening



Kasz216 on 20 August 2011
TheLivingShadow said:

I believe that if Americans are concerned with having better citizens as well as encouraging good values, this ONE GUY should receive citizenship immediately. However, his example does not prove illegal immigrants are good people overall (nor does that mean they're bad people).

Remember that there is a higher principle involved in this lone case that should be honored.

Whether or not they're good people is largely irrelevent.

We can't support everyone that wants to come here... and every person that comes here illegally is taking space away from people who come here legally since it's clearly taken inconsidertation when we decide the immigration quotas.

Furhtermore, illegal aliens come here illegally and therefore basically have to live as second class "citizens" since they can't get a job that pays over the table, are victims of far more crimes which go unreported because they're afraid to call the police because they might get caught, (Recent laws had to be inacted that INS can't be called on spousal abuse charges just so women aren't afraid their abusive husbands will be deported.)  They're afraid to go to hosptials for the same reason.  They can't open bank accounts, which makes getting robbed even worse.  They can't get drivers liscesnses or loans so no car or house to speak of.


Essentially not only is every person coming here illegally jumping ahead of people who are doing things the right way, they're jumping ahead of the line for a far inferior product that probably isn't much better then where they came from in the first place.

A lot of people would say "wouldn't you do it too".

Which, most people probably would.

However if forced to, most people would do some pretty horrible things when faced with an option that seems much worse.

At the end of the day, what we have is too many people wanting to come here, not enough space and economic ability to handle them all, and a bunch of people taking up the space, the number of people growing each day... only to live lesser lives then those who could of come here the "right" way, due to the hinderences that need to be placed on said people so that illegal immigation doesn't get even more rampant.