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snakenobi said:
dany612 said:
snakenobi said:
low willpower and people that go down to emotions and goodwill at these situations is the reason why problems happen

Why let's commend the suspect instead then! If it was your duaghter being saved, your perspective would be different but since you limit yourself to your own circle-you fail to think otherwise.


i am not saying that man didn't do a good job.he did great

 

the problem is taking this as a good sign and being sympathetic over immigration in short term fuck country in the long term

my daughter was saved today but but getting raped,getting abdly influenced for life when whe is growing up and ruining her life is as equivalent

 

and you limit yourself to a small time goodwill and not understanding the bigger picture

 

i replied that way as this thread was direct reply to another thread which you should know about

The bigger picture is that while we don't close the borders, illegal immigrants from latin America and Asia will continue to flood in. The U.S can't afford to gather all those already here and send them back. We should be putting resources on those who do crimes. 

I meant to put this thread way earlier since your thread reminded me of this story. To be honest I didn't make this thread to back fire on yours.



 

        

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dany612 said:
snakenobi said:
dany612 said:
snakenobi said:
low willpower and people that go down to emotions and goodwill at these situations is the reason why problems happen

Why let's commend the suspect instead then! If it was your duaghter being saved, your perspective would be different but since you limit yourself to your own circle-you fail to think otherwise.


i am not saying that man didn't do a good job.he did great

 

the problem is taking this as a good sign and being sympathetic over immigration in short term fuck country in the long term

my daughter was saved today but but getting raped,getting abdly influenced for life when whe is growing up and ruining her life is as equivalent

 

and you limit yourself to a small time goodwill and not understanding the bigger picture

 

i replied that way as this thread was direct reply to another thread which you should know about

The bigger picture is that while we don't close the borders, illegal immigrants from latin America and Asia will continue to flood in. The U.S can't afford to gather all those already here and send them back.

it needs to be a mix off both,stop the immigration and also deport as the immigrants wil change US's culture.

many weak minded people might take this but people who rpide amrica as a nation and thing of it as there like people of europe and china and japan thing of their land as their own,they will keep america as it is

We should be putting resources on those who do crimes. 

thats the problem that crime is not the problem

 

you have to locate where crime comes from,do you think it comes from magic?

 

these people who jsut immigrate thing of a bigger dream of money,women,etc is what causes problems

I meant to put this thread way earlier since your thread reminded me of this story. To be honest I didn't make this thread to back fire on yours.

it wasn't my thread

i know you didn't make this thread to backfire but the title was put with a mind on it





The government should help this guy get citizenship. When someone does a heroic act like this they should definatly be rewarded. Now I don't buy the whole Immigrants raise crime rates and hold back the US. Well unless they are gangsters coming up from Mexico. The majority of immigrants are simply trying to lead a better life.

Here in Canada we have tons of illegal immigrants. Infact Mexican's are growing on our list as they now skip over the US and b-line straight for Canada.

I believe every illegal immigrant should be arrested. Then given a trial and offered help in becoming a legal citizen. If they do not match the criteria and are not from a country where they will face persecution then they should be deported to their home country.

I'm against illegal immigrants but think immigrants are very important to our modern society and we should try to take in as many from bad situations as possible.



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snakenobi said:
dany612 said:

The bigger picture is that while we don't close the borders, illegal immigrants from latin America and Asia will continue to flood in. The U.S can't afford to gather all those already here and send them back.

it needs to be a mix off both,stop the immigration and also deport as the immigrants wil change US's culture.

many weak minded people might take this but people who rpide amrica as a nation and thing of it as there like people of europe and china and japan thing of their land as their own,they will keep america as it is



The Us's culture will change regardless, unless the country stagnates and falls into irrelevance. The US is an immigrant country, and their culture is a result of the cultures of immigrants mixing together. Many 'weak minded' xenophobes don't really seem to get thiss however.

Also, I somehow doubt you'd manage to get US citizenship (or citizenship in your native South Africa for that matter), which such a handling of the English language. Most illegals can write more intelligibly than yourself.



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sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
dany612 said:

The bigger picture is that while we don't close the borders, illegal immigrants from latin America and Asia will continue to flood in. The U.S can't afford to gather all those already here and send them back.

it needs to be a mix off both,stop the immigration and also deport as the immigrants wil change US's culture.

many weak minded people might take this but people who rpide amrica as a nation and thing of it as there like people of europe and china and japan thing of their land as their own,they will keep america as it is



The Us's culture will change regardless, unless the country stagnates and falls into irrelevance.

that way every country's culture chang which is called a trend and to evolve with age

not completely flip

for example you don't will never see the kind of culture chnage in AUSTRALIA,JAPAN,CHINA,GERMANY,RUSSIA.

The US is an immigrant country, and their culture is a result of the cultures of immigrants mixing together.

no it isn't

yeah somewhat it was  in 1900's but they all mostly came from the same background,europe and they formed a culture identity

that way every country before its inception and culture forming was immigrant country

once the culture is set then its their land

Many 'weak minded' xenophobes don't really seem to get thiss however.

selling away your identity and culture is being weak,people who just go along with whatever will happen thinking go down.

culture clashes never end up good,history shows this and till today it is relevant

Also, I somehow doubt you'd manage to get US citizenship (or citizenship in your native South Africa for that matter), which such a handling of the English language.Most illegals can write more intelligibly than yourself.

oooooh

i really don't know where you get that from

and it isn't my english,but my typing skills and i don't need to be that formal on the internet which slangs and garbage english is accepted.

and i am not from south africa



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Joelcool7 said:

. The majority of immigrants are simply trying to lead a better life.

Their are immigrants who want to lead a horrible life? 



 

Lostplanet22 said:
Joelcool7 said:

. The majority of immigrants are simply trying to lead a better life.

Their are immigrants who want to lead a horrible life? 


Hahahaha you know what I meant. Now in the US most of the illegal immigration is from South America. But here in Canada alot of it is people fleeing wars and persecution. These people aren't to be feared and we shouldn't turn them away either. Unless your native your an immigrant yourself. Its important to remember how our great country helped us (Family). We should do the exact same for those coming now unless they are criminal's in which case deport their butts. But the majority of them are simply trying to lead better lives and are fleeing persecution.

Heck even Mexican's are fleeing war. Right now the drug cartels and murdering and kidnapping Mexican's like theirs no tomorow. We (North America) should be open to helping some come to our countries. That or send aid and troops to help their country resolve its problems. Go to the source and try to end the drug wars.

But poor immigrants who worked so hard to get to Canada or the USA deserve a chance at a better life. Besides these immigrants do alot for the country.



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so give him a medal and then deport the lazy ass.



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Joelcool7 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Joelcool7 said:

. The majority of immigrants are simply trying to lead a better life.

Their are immigrants who want to lead a horrible life? 


Hahahaha you know what I meant. Now in the US most of the illegal immigration is from South America. But here in Canada alot of it is people fleeing wars and persecution. These people aren't to be feared and we shouldn't turn them away either. Unless your native your an immigrant yourself. Its important to remember how our great country helped us (Family). We should do the exact same for those coming now unless they are criminal's in which case deport their butts. But the majority of them are simply trying to lead better lives and are fleeing persecution.

Heck even Mexican's are fleeing war. Right now the drug cartels and murdering and kidnapping Mexican's like theirs no tomorow. We (North America) should be open to helping some come to our countries. That or send aid and troops to help their country resolve its problems. Go to the source and try to end the drug wars.

But poor immigrants who worked so hard to get to Canada or the USA deserve a chance at a better life. Besides these immigrants do alot for the country.

Yeah I know what you meant, the problem is that most countries can't afford Immigrants at the moment.  While 10% and more of your population has no job and the government has a debt that is skyrocking then immigrants will possible only lead to more illegal work, less jobs for the unemployed, regions in the country with an drastic increase of social economic problems and social instability is good for nothing.  If you can't take care of yourself you would not addopt an (immigrant) child neither.



 

Joelcool7 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Joelcool7 said:

. The majority of immigrants are simply trying to lead a better life.

Their are immigrants who want to lead a horrible life? 


Hahahaha you know what I meant. Now in the US most of the illegal immigration is from South America. But here in Canada alot of it is people fleeing wars and persecution. These people aren't to be feared and we shouldn't turn them away either. Unless your native your an immigrant yourself. Its important to remember how our great country helped us (Family). We should do the exact same for those coming now unless they are criminal's in which case deport their butts. But the majority of them are simply trying to lead better lives and are fleeing persecution.

Heck even Mexican's are fleeing war. Right now the drug cartels and murdering and kidnapping Mexican's like theirs no tomorow. We (North America) should be open to helping some come to our countries. That or send aid and troops to help their country resolve its problems. Go to the source and try to end the drug wars.

But poor immigrants who worked so hard to get to Canada or the USA deserve a chance at a better life. Besides these immigrants do alot for the country.

The drug cartels are funded by the drug and human trafficking that our porous border allows. 



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