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rf40928 said:
snakenobi said:
worldlyfall said:
snakenobi said:
SaviorX said:
snakenobi said:
they are,its just that diversity distribute over alot of games

PS3 software actually trumps both Wii and 360 software sales these days in total


????? Since when ??????

And I agree with what was stated earlier that MS does a megaton of marketing in comparison. In terms of ad money spent it is MS>>>>>Sony>>>Ninty

Worldwide 2011 Software Totals

 

wii loses as it has bundled games on its value bundle

Console 
Wii 60,608,895      
PS3 55,142,496 (-    
X360 53,565,434      
DS 42,042,239      
PSP 17,137,182      
PC 8,751,011  
3DS 6,075,834  
PS2 4,778,740  



You do know by the end of this year the ps3 will be behind the 360. Gears, COD, Halo, and Kinnect games will make sure of that.

that is just an assumption by you that the old years sales will replay

actually PS3 could trump 360 still as the trends have been changing,software sales on the PS3 have been growing tremendously.and the software choice provides alot of space for sales.

I Posted above.. in total software sales the PS3 is so far behind the 360 it'll never catch up..  In just the top 50 games list i posted above ( from Vgchartz ) the PS3 is behind nearly 50 million game copies.. much more if you go top 100 games on each console.. As close as the two consoles are in userbase.. the PS3 is the last choice for games


what total software sales

50mllion game copies is nothing,you haven't been following the gaming industry,that is a small gap.

look at how wii's software sales dropped alot.

 

PS3 is the last choice for games?it has a great game attach ratio,and it has price-cut space which will grow the userbase,still being relvant with the brand name and in the future and great game diversity.



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Because the big diffenrence is microsoft Know its all about marketing, And they got the money to avertise, for 300 million and more.

Its just about marketing. You can sell Gold crap, but if it well avertised you win big time.



snakenobi said:
SaviorX said:
snakenobi said:
they are,its just that diversity distribute over alot of games

PS3 software actually trumps both Wii and 360 software sales these days in total


????? Since when ??????

And I agree with what was stated earlier that MS does a megaton of marketing in comparison. In terms of ad money spent it is MS>>>>>Sony>>>Ninty

Worldwide 2011 Software Totals

 

wii loses as it has bundled games on its value bundle

Console  
Wii 60,608,895      
PS3 55,142,496 (-    
X360 53,565,434      
DS 42,042,239      
PSP 17,137,182      
PC 8,751,011  
3DS 6,075,834  
PS2 4,778,740  

This is pure nonsense. 360 typically sees stronger software sales in Q3 and Q4 to make up for it's marginal loss (3% for 2011) sales during the spring and summer. Also PS3 has seen an exclusive Black Ops Bundle already, what has 360 gotten?

Look at 2010 figures

Console Yearly (change) Total (tie ratio)
Wii 184,450,648 (+1%) 628,377,813 (7.62)
X360 136,565,517 (+25%) 446,658,991 (8.86)
PS3 131,078,275 (+37%) 353,640,517 (7.64)
DS 122,323,057 (-16%) 645,707,411 (4.53)
PSP 43,547,344 (+10%) 217,088,163 (3.32)
PS2 17,842,192 (-38%) n/a
PC 17,658,763 (+102%) n/a
Total 653,465,796(+7%)  

360 software is actually stronger then PS3 software worldwide.

This diversity arguement is nonsense too. Of the top 10 best selling exclusives 360 has 5 shooters, 1 party game, 2 racing games, 1 RPG, and 1 Sports games. PS3 has 5 shooters, 3 racing games, 1 platformer, 1 Action game. 360 has more diversification is anything, and they both have 5 shooters.



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sales2099 said:
RolStoppable said:
Mainly because Sony's lineup is built on diversity while Microsoft chooses to brainwash people with their marketing.


That sir is Sony fan made propaganda. 

Numbers dont lie. Global software difference between 360 and PS3 is at about 90 million approx. And im sure that didnt come from the year 360 was out before ps3 released.

This "diversity" is only because Sony has NO IDEA what their demographic wants and is taking shots in the dark. MS on the other hand knows their core audience and what they want....so thats what they deliever. 

Propaganda debunked :)

This Diversity arguement is pure propaganda made by hardcore fans, look at the best selling PS3 and 360 games and they both have just as many shooters. 360 shooters just sell 2 or 3 times better then PS3 shooters. After shooters, 360 has just as many non shooters, as Sony. Kinect adventures, Kinect Sports, Forza, Fable, Mass Effect 1, Lost Odyssey, Project Gotham Racing, etc, etc.



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rf40928 said:
mantlepiecek said:
The main reason why Ps3 games sell less than 360 is because of US gamers buy more games than other countries due to relatively higher standard of living combined with population. And the 360 dominates in the USA.
Its got nothing to do with PS3 owners not buying their exclusives. Maybe a little to do with the exclusive variety.

Its one of the reason why 360 can match the PS3 WW in hardware sales even if PS3 outsells it in EMEAA and Japan.

Its a combinations of reasons, but I beleive your reason above is part of it..  The PS3 outsells the 360 in most of the EMEAA areas.. but not by a staggering amount.. sometimes its very close.. rarely is it a crazy number like you get in America.. Look back 10 yrs ago.. The PS2 sold what percentage in the USA?  If the PS3 was selling at that same percentage ..the PS3 would be number 1, not the WIi..  Im not sure if Sony can win the US back next gen.. the only reason PS3 is slowly catching 360 is mainly Japan's PS3 sales.. subtract  Japan who is fiercly loyal to their companies and PS3 would be dead last.. What I always see happening though is the 360 does well like 3 months a year and almost always nullifies any progress the PS3 did the other parts of the year.. nearly every year the PS3 was supposed to have caught up and nearly every year this happens - PS3 slightly outsells Xbox 360 ( enough, but not huge outselling either ).. then a few months 360 sells above PS3 and nearly makes it the way it was before PS3 caught up.. Im waiting to see how Gear 3 increases console sales and the holidays in which 360 usually does better.. Also.. when one drops the price - the other does not far after.. It wont be long till 360 gets a price cut.. Does anyone think MS will sit on its hands long beefore a price cut?  Well they wont wait long.. The PS3 sales are doing better this year , but  fans need to take  into account the 360 is having its best year( of two best selling years of its life )  so far.. so its sales aren't dropping off either.. and the Wii can't be beat or ever caught

It's rare to see someone smart here who actually looks at the data before making strong claims in the forum.

Just want to correct you on one thing, PS3 sells more units in most countries in EMEAA. Only in some European countries (like United Kingdom), and Australia does the 360 outsell the PS3, but in those countries the ratio is quite high. The 360 to PS3 ratio in UK is actually higher then Americas (mainly because Canada and South America dilute the huge lead 360 has in US).

Also, what's really helping Sony in Japan. 360 is basically dead in Japan and if you look at just EMEAA and Americas figures, 360 actually outsells PS3 on most weeks. However since the Japanese market is so small, and largly handheld focused, the lead Sony gains with Japan is usually very small, that's why 360 is still ahead in terms of total consoles. However when PSV comes out, I'm not sure if sony will have this advantage this fall/next year. If their handheld can play PS3 quality games, and gets some PS3/PSV titles, I can definatly see PS3 sales being hurt in Japan, especially since PSV is the same price.



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well Mass Effect is better than uncharted so that explains that. :D

but I agree with LordMatrix



Michael-5 said:

This is pure nonsense. 360 typically sees stronger software sales in Q3 and Q4 to make up for it's marginal loss (3% for 2011) sales during the spring and summer. Also PS3 has seen an exclusive Black Ops Bundle already, what has 360 gotten?

small time bundles like black ops keep happening,they don't matter much

360 typically had stronger software sales,doesn't have or will have.

PS3's price range keeps bringing new consumers so their is room for growth

diverse and more exlcusive range that SONY has formed

 

COD gap between PS3 and 360 sales has been shrinking  big time.

360's replacement consoles leave small room for growth,price also leaves small room for growth,software range is a problemt too.

 

and even last year when PS3 HW sales were lower,PS3 software sales were so good

 

Look at 2010 figures

Console Yearly (change) Total (tie ratio)
Wii 184,450,648 (+1%) 628,377,813 (7.62)
X360 136,565,517 (+25%) 446,658,991 (8.86)
PS3 131,078,275 (+37%) 353,640,517 (7.64)
DS 122,323,057 (-16%) 645,707,411 (4.53)
PSP 43,547,344 (+10%) 217,088,163 (3.32)
PS2 17,842,192 (-38%) n/a
PC 17,658,763 (+102%) n/a
Total 653,465,796(+7%)  

360 software is actually stronger then PS3 software worldwide.

 

they were barely stronger and if you take into account PS3's growth,they will trump 360

 

 

This diversity arguement is nonsense too. Of the top 10 best selling exclusives 360 has 5 shooters, 1 party game, 2 racing games, 1 RPG, and 1 Sports games.

yeah but where does the majority of the sales contribution come from?

PS3 has 5 shooters, 3 racing games, 1 platformer, 1 Action game. 360 has more diversification is anything, and they both have 5 shooters.

lmao

you seriosly haven't been following the game industry what causes trends and where does the growth come from





snakenobi said:
worldlyfall said:
snakenobi said:
SaviorX said:
snakenobi said:
they are,its just that diversity distribute over alot of games

PS3 software actually trumps both Wii and 360 software sales these days in total


????? Since when ??????

And I agree with what was stated earlier that MS does a megaton of marketing in comparison. In terms of ad money spent it is MS>>>>>Sony>>>Ninty

Worldwide 2011 Software Totals

 

wii loses as it has bundled games on its value bundle

Console 
Wii 60,608,895      
PS3 55,142,496 (-    
X360 53,565,434      
DS 42,042,239      
PSP 17,137,182      
PC 8,751,011  
3DS 6,075,834  
PS2 4,778,740  



You do know by the end of this year the ps3 will be behind the 360. Gears, COD, Halo, and Kinnect games will make sure of that.

that is just an assumption by you that the old years sales will replay

actually PS3 could trump 360 still as the trends have been changing,software sales on the PS3 have been growing tremendously.and the software choice provides alot of space for sales.

So your making an assumption aswell based on extrapolating this years ps3 software sale. What i am doing is using history, because history will repeat itself. The xbox always outsells the ps3 in software in the second half  of the year. This year will be no expection. That 1 point something million gap or w.e will be closed easily once Gears, Halo, and COD are released. Heck even BF3 will help.

Also I find it strange that you say the ps3 software sales are growing so fast yet even with multiple exclusives that came out for the machine for this year it only manges to sell 1.5 million more units of software than the 360 which apparently according to many has been starved of games (not saying you said this just wanted to point it out to people who do say so)



worldlyfall said:
snakenobi said:
worldlyfall said:
snakenobi said:
SaviorX said:
snakenobi said:
they are,its just that diversity distribute over alot of games

PS3 software actually trumps both Wii and 360 software sales these days in total


????? Since when ??????

And I agree with what was stated earlier that MS does a megaton of marketing in comparison. In terms of ad money spent it is MS>>>>>Sony>>>Ninty

Worldwide 2011 Software Totals

 

wii loses as it has bundled games on its value bundle

Console 
Wii 60,608,895      
PS3 55,142,496 (-    
X360 53,565,434      
DS 42,042,239      
PSP 17,137,182      
PC 8,751,011  
3DS 6,075,834  
PS2 4,778,740  



You do know by the end of this year the ps3 will be behind the 360. Gears, COD, Halo, and Kinnect games will make sure of that.

that is just an assumption by you that the old years sales will replay

actually PS3 could trump 360 still as the trends have been changing,software sales on the PS3 have been growing tremendously.and the software choice provides alot of space for sales.

So your making an assumption aswell based on extrapolating this years ps3 software sale. What i am doing is using history, because history will repeat itself. The xbox always outsells the ps3 in software in the second half  of the year. This year will be no expection. That 1 point something million gap or w.e will be closed easily once Gears, Halo, and COD are released. Heck even BF3 will help.

Also I find it strange that you say the ps3 software sales are growing so fast yet even with multiple exclusives that came out for the machine for this year it only manges to sell 1.5 million more units of software than the 360 which apparently according to many has been starved of games (not saying you said this just wanted to point it out to people who do say so)

no,i am making an assumption based on industry trends.

not saying PS3 sales will extrapolate but they are already pretty close so they will overcome 360 sales.

this isn't a kids game and not a fight whether PS3 or 360  will reign.talk froma business perspective.

"history will repeat itself." ..................................meh

 

what do you mean by xbox always does outsell?

what does that mean,talk maturely.sales are not set in stone,they can change anytime.

 

gears will be close to uncharted,COD will be very close

halo will not mkae that much of difference

 

about BF3,that is just like anything other platform that sells more on either of the consoles.

 

PS3 software sales are growing fast,they are just distributed among loads of title.the reason that you don't understand this is u are directly comparing each platform



LordMatrix said:
RolStoppable said:
Mainly because Sony's lineup is built on diversity while Microsoft chooses to brainwash people with their marketing.


LOL Yeah keep telling yourself that. Microsoft`s exlusives are just more popular usually. Most Xbox exclusives have a much larger community attached to them. If you enjoy online play you likely are an Xbox gamer.  Gears, Halo & Forza are some big one`s that come to mind but when even games like Fable use online features in unique ways can you really blame users for flocking to them?


loloolol the only popular game xbox got is halo so all u saying is wrong. and really??? last time i checked no one even go on forza