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http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-08-10.html

Some bits and pieces from the article:

With a welfare system far more advanced than the United States, the British have achieved the remarkable result of turning entire communities of ancestral British people into tattooed, drunken brutes. 

I guess we now have the proof of what conservatives have been saying since forever: Looting is a result of liberal welfare policies. And Britain is in the end stages of the welfare state. 

 

We're beginning to see the final result of that idea in Britain. The welfare state creates a society of beasts. Meanwhile, nonjudgmental elites don't dare condemn the animals their programs have created. 

 




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well just giving everything to some of these people certainly hasnt encouraged them to not feel like they should have everything handed to them.



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Can't disagree with her there, although I think Theodore Dalrymple said it best.



Britain's welfare state is much less developed than those of, say, Norway, Finland, Netherlands, Denmark... which are very successful societies. So I wouldn't blame welfare.

My impression (having lived in London for 6 years) is that Britain's society is kind of broken (although I believe this is much more accute in London than in the rest of the country). The fabric of society is not strong, individualism and the dog eat dog culture is present in many layers of society. Kids don't play with each other (I heard they're not even allowed to be out alone by law, but I'm not sure). Many people are not well integrated in society, at least in London. Hooliganism is rampant on weekend nights, it's like many people go out simply to get pissed and get in a fight. Seriously, if you take night buses in London you'll have plenty of anecdotes to tell people in this respect.

I'm not hating on the UK. It is one of the best countries in some aspects and I have enjoyed my time here immensely (leaving soon). I've met wonderful people. But socially, compared to what I've seen in mainland Europe, it is broken. And I don't think it is because of welfare.



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he's a fucking idiot if he truly believes that.

people loot because the opportunity is there.



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Troll_Whisperer said:
Britain's welfare state is much less developed than those of, say, Norway, Finland, Netherlands, Denmark... which are very successful societies. So I wouldn't blame welfare.

My impression (having lived in London for 6 years) is that Britain's society is kind of broken (although I believe this is much more accute in London than in the rest of the country). The fabric of society is not strong, individualism and the dog eat dog culture is present in many layers of society. Kids don't play with each other (I heard they're not even allowed to be out alone by law, but I'm not sure). Many people are not well integrated in society, at least in London. Hooliganism is rampant on weekend nights, it's like many people go out simply to get pissed and get in a fight. Seriously, if you take night buses in London you'll have plenty of anecdotes to tell people in this respect.

I'm not hating on the UK. It is one of the best countries in some aspects and I have enjoyed my time here immensely (leaving soon). I've met wonderful people. But socially, compared to what I've seen in mainland Europe, it is broken. And I don't think it is because of welfare.

I agree with this, this country seems like most of the most broken civilised countries in the world. I don't think multiculturalism that's been forced on us has helped either.



 

MARCUSDJACKSON said:
he's a fucking idiot if he truly believes that.

people loot because the opportunity is there.

his statement is a bit flawed, but the idea/logic behind it is sound.

these same people LOOTING are the same people LOOTING the government for money.  They are on welfare, not because they HAVE to be, but because they found a way to be on it, thus essentially getting paid for doing NOTHING. 

 

And yes i wish our government paid attention to other coutnries.  hell look at countries recently who have public health care.  They are going BROKE and filling bankrupcy. 

I dont' understand how the U.S. thinks they can spend $10 when they only get $5 in revenue. 

 

we have many people in minnesota that came up from chicago and are getting MULTIPLE welfare checks from the government.  how the hell does that happen.  Is it so hard to cross check a new person.  someone fills out for welfare and you look at their social security number and if that number is already getting money the bam, don't send them more.  If that social security number doesn't exist, then bam they are an ILLEGAL and should not be getting tax payers money.  Hell its like if you ever need a password for somethign from the government it takes like a month to get back to you in the email, yet for ANY private company it takes a half a second.  Try and fool a PRIVATE company into giving you two paychecks or something like that. 



I'd imagine its part welfare state, part forced multicultralism and part bad economy. With a dash of oppurtunisim.



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welfare program only work with in the same type of culture and people ready to work



Well Ann Coulter is responsible for erectile dysfunction so take that!

I don't think welfare is solely to blame but Britain's system is really flawed from what I hear.



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