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Kirameo said:
blkfish92 said:
Well then maybe people in Brazil need to be educated more on wrong and right, I mean she could have just not have sex or even gotten an abortion because at 14 I'm very sure she wouldn't have been able to care for the baby very easily.

Either way this is very sad there's no way around it.

This is not a problem of nationality, this is a problem of poverty (and uneducation).


Ya, but due to their location it's the nationality and the fact that the area of the nation their in is in poverty, thus being uneducated. Which sucks balls because the people deserve basic knowledge.



           

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blkfish92 said:
Kirameo said:
blkfish92 said:
Well then maybe people in Brazil need to be educated more on wrong and right, I mean she could have just not have sex or even gotten an abortion because at 14 I'm very sure she wouldn't have been able to care for the baby very easily.

Either way this is very sad there's no way around it.

This is not a problem of nationality, this is a problem of poverty (and uneducation).


Ya, but due to their location it's the nationality and the fact that the area of the nation their in is in poverty, thus being uneducated. Which sucks balls because the people deserve basic knowledge.


Yes, you are right. What I meant was that not because one is in Brazil, one is uneducated... I like to believe than I'm educated, but my country is way behind in social and moral values.



 

i spat my coffee out when i read the part "14 year old mother"

anyway Poor baby, the doctor sucks if he didn't know the baby was alive.




これはエンバールミングの事由です。 だから、死んだ人は死去にかえられない。

Sorry, random Japanese practice. This is the reason why we embalm those we declare to be dead. This way, the "dead" don't come back and are definitely dead.



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Mr Khan said:
これはエンバールミングの事由です。 だから、死んだ人は死去にかえられない。

Sorry, random Japanese practice. This is the reason why we embalm those we declare to be dead. This way, the "dead" don't come back and are definitely dead.

You guys embalm people over there? Did not know that. Does this practice end up killing them, even if they've been wrongly declared dead?



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sapphi_snake said:
Mr Khan said:
これはエンバールミングの事由です。 だから、死んだ人は死去にかえられない。

Sorry, random Japanese practice. This is the reason why we embalm those we declare to be dead. This way, the "dead" don't come back and are definitely dead.

You guys embalm people over there? Did not know that. Does this practice end up killing them, even if they've been wrongly declared dead?

Well, inject with fermeldahyde. I don't know if there's a stricter definition of embalming, but we put in preservational fluids that are highly lethal

Wrongful declaration of death i can imagine being extremely rare, but in the time before embalming was common, a lot of ghost stories about the dead coming to life were real, like if grave robbers would exhume the corpse of a recently deceased woman to steal her jewelry, but the exposure to sudden cold air woke up a woman who was just comatose, and then the robber gets a real fright seeing the "dead" return.

We don't embalm to guarantee that they're dead, but it does serve incidentally serve as a guarantee that the buried are indeed dead. Thus this wouldn't happen at a USA funeral



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Mr Khan said:
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Khan said:
これはエンバールミングの事由です。 だから、死んだ人は死去にかえられない。

Sorry, random Japanese practice. This is the reason why we embalm those we declare to be dead. This way, the "dead" don't come back and are definitely dead.

You guys embalm people over there? Did not know that. Does this practice end up killing them, even if they've been wrongly declared dead?

Well, inject with fermeldahyde. I don't know if there's a stricter definition of embalming, but we put in preservational fluids that are highly lethal

Wrongful declaration of death i can imagine being extremely rare, but in the time before embalming was common, a lot of ghost stories about the dead coming to life were real, like if grave robbers would exhume the corpse of a recently deceased woman to steal her jewelry, but the exposure to sudden cold air woke up a woman who was just comatose, and then the robber gets a real fright seeing the "dead" return.

We don't embalm to guarantee that they're dead, but it does serve incidentally serve as a guarantee that the buried are indeed dead. Thus this wouldn't happen at a USA funeral

WOW, now that interesting origin of ghost stories.



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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

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In Canada we also embalm. However I have heard stories in the news of people waking up in the morgue prior to being embalmed so I guess some people could be killed by embalming because the doctor declares them dead then they are injected and killed. Sorta sucks but it is done to preserve the body as long as possible so that the funeral and such can take place without a rotting corpse.

Believe it or not people die all the time. I was watching the news and they were talking about an australian who looses his pulse during a seizure. He appears dead for sometimes up to a day or two. Many times he has nearly been embalmed and such. My mom herself has sleep Apnea and apparently died at night without her machine, just to be brought back somehow. Don't really understand how that works but its pretty freaky to think your mom dies every night.

My friend also died on the operating table, however he was recesitated. So all ended well. I feel so sorry for the pour fourteen year old girl having to go through this. If I was her I would be sueing if possible or lodging a complaint.

Also to the guy who suggested Abortion as the knowledgable way to deal with this. Who says the girl didn't want the Baby and how would murdering the baby be any different then the baby dying naturely after birth. At least this way the mom doesn't have to live with wondering what her kid would have grown up to be had she not murdered it.

Seriously I consider condom's and the pill to be knowledge but abortion isn't a lack of knowledge it just shows the girl has some moral fiber and isn't a murderer!



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Joelcool7 said:

In Canada we also embalm. However I have heard stories in the news of people waking up in the morgue prior to being embalmed so I guess some people could be killed by embalming because the doctor declares them dead then they are injected and killed. Sorta sucks but it is done to preserve the body as long as possible so that the funeral and such can take place without a rotting corpse.

Believe it or not people die all the time. I was watching the news and they were talking about an australian who looses his pulse during a seizure. He appears dead for sometimes up to a day or two. Many times he has nearly been embalmed and such. My mom herself has sleep Apnea and apparently died at night without her machine, just to be brought back somehow. Don't really understand how that works but its pretty freaky to think your mom dies every night.

My friend also died on the operating table, however he was recesitated. So all ended well. I feel so sorry for the pour fourteen year old girl having to go through this. If I was her I would be sueing if possible or lodging a complaint.

Also to the guy who suggested Abortion as the knowledgable way to deal with this. Who says the girl didn't want the Baby and how would murdering the baby be any different then the baby dying naturely after birth. At least this way the mom doesn't have to live with wondering what her kid would have grown up to be had she not murdered it.

Seriously I consider condom's and the pill to be knowledge but abortion isn't a lack of knowledge it just shows the girl has some moral fiber and isn't a murderer!

It's probably due to the fact that she's a 14-year-old girl who got pregnant, and she lives in a poor country. This kinda means that it was unlikely she could've provided proper care to the child.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

In Canada we also embalm. However I have heard stories in the news of people waking up in the morgue prior to being embalmed so I guess some people could be killed by embalming because the doctor declares them dead then they are injected and killed. Sorta sucks but it is done to preserve the body as long as possible so that the funeral and such can take place without a rotting corpse.

Believe it or not people die all the time. I was watching the news and they were talking about an australian who looses his pulse during a seizure. He appears dead for sometimes up to a day or two. Many times he has nearly been embalmed and such. My mom herself has sleep Apnea and apparently died at night without her machine, just to be brought back somehow. Don't really understand how that works but its pretty freaky to think your mom dies every night.

My friend also died on the operating table, however he was recesitated. So all ended well. I feel so sorry for the pour fourteen year old girl having to go through this. If I was her I would be sueing if possible or lodging a complaint.

Also to the guy who suggested Abortion as the knowledgable way to deal with this. Who says the girl didn't want the Baby and how would murdering the baby be any different then the baby dying naturely after birth. At least this way the mom doesn't have to live with wondering what her kid would have grown up to be had she not murdered it.

Seriously I consider condom's and the pill to be knowledge but abortion isn't a lack of knowledge it just shows the girl has some moral fiber and isn't a murderer!

It's probably due to the fact that she's a 14-year-old girl who got pregnant, and she lives in a poor country. This kinda means that it was unlikely she could've provided proper care to the child.

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)



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