Thanks, I needed that. I really flew off the handle. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weG7A4lTGtg

I couldn't even watch more than a minute of that video because it was so ridiculous.  The only thing I would say is true is that violence in general is exposed more these days and that may have some kind of effect on young people. Mainly it would desensitize them to violence, but a violent video game would only play a small part in that. Movies are more violent these days and they actually depict people getting hurt not polygons and pixels. 

The guy who did the VA massacre was revealed as was some of his mental state which was described as "troubled."  It sounds like he considered the world his enemy and I doubt he got the idea to go on a rampage from playing GTA(if he even did ever play it).  He was described as a loner and quiet and I doubt that type of guy was in his dorm room yelling, "Yeah, die bastard" while playing GTA. In fact he was an English major and it was revealed that many of his writings in class were disturbing and actually noted by teachers.

So increased exposure to violent video games is not good but it's hardly the cause for this incident.  There may have been someone who had the idea to do such a thing from playing GTA, but I've heard of someone doing violent things because he said the world around him was the Matrix. If you get that trapped in fiction to the point of hurting someone I think it's more an issue of mental state. A person like that could have read a Stephen King book and done something crazy. What would we do then, ban all his books.

ofcourse as we all know it's not guns that kill people it's games that kill people ...

 a gun is harmless unless its in a persons hand!

 Yes, but it makes a lot more sense to tighten up gun control than hand control.

And Jack Trenton is a biggoted, and sensationalist crackpot. The fact that Fox would bring him on the show as a "school shooting expert" shows just how stupid Fox is as a network. 

iam not with the ban this ban that BS.

 why let retards ruin things for everyone else.

Agree completely. If someone goes on a rampage in Australia, the best they (usually) get away with is a stabbing or two. The only people who have easy access to guns are mobsters (and tend to just kill each other - from where Im from anyway).

This whole US principle of propagating guns to keep the "government" under control is now completely outdated. Sure, back in the 1800's it was a valid (and useful) idea. But not these days. Guns don't do much against aerial bombardment, guided missiles or tank rounds - if the US military wanted to stage a coup, no one  in the US could stop them. Citizens owning guns certainly wouldn't make a difference, just get a lot more people killed.

And re: Fox News/Jack... in the words of Metallica: "Kill 'Em All"  (hope I got that right :>)

I think the whole argument towards guns in America is surrounded by the people's 'right to bear arms' which has been part of the constitution for a very long time has it not? (I'm not from US so don't hold me to that one).

I don't see the point in people have pistols and handguns for self defence... as shams said here in Australia we don't get any of that... there are very rarely any shootings, and generally people with guns are highly regulated with strict laws and buy back schemes to get guns out of the streets (I think that all happened when Marty Bryant slaughtered so many people in Tassie years ago).

In regards to Jack Thompson, I wonder if he is still blaming violence in video games as the main cause after they have discovered the gunman's letter detailing why he did what he did and what his reasoning for it all was.  Completely had nothing to do with Videogames, but I'm sure he'll still stand with the point that he played videogames and they are what inspired him to complete these actions.

Shams where in Aus you from? I wanna find Tony Mokbel and get myself a cold hard million (wouldn't that be sweet).  But anyone who dobbed him in would get hit no matter what anyway heh.

^ its more a freedon thing and not letting dumb retards fuck those freedoms up for us.

they baned Pitbulls in toronto, becasue dumb trash had them.  So now the Dumb trash can move to rottwailers and the gov will ban them to.... the dumb trash moves to German shepards... and once agian a breed is baned.

is the dog a problem or the dumnass owners ?