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Forums - Sony Discussion - do sony fans hate the xbox more so than other console fans hate the competition??

Maybe because;
- MS asks money to play online and they are afraid that next generation they will have to pay for online gaming as well.
- MS bought (too) much timed exclusives.
- MS tried to block/"steal" JRPG's for the PS3.
- MS delays the development of consoles for instance they still use DVD instead of HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, content of multiplatformgames must be deleted to fit on a minimum of DVD's (Final Fantasy XIII anyone?).
- MS says that 3D is possible for the x360, but delivers no such games.

- Etc.

- Etc.



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Hephaestos said:

did you look at the sig? it is blind bashing, and no I have no complaints, if you read my initial post I just commented implying that his statement didn't feel honnest because of his sig.

Hmm.. I genuinely don't see what you think is so wrong, so offending about Noctis sig.

Those two gifs are just two funny situations that I'm sure even Iwata-san and Miyamoto-san would giggle about. I don't understand why you are so up in arms about that, but maybe that's because I'm just a PS3 user.

JackyGoal said:


- MS says that 3D is possible for the x360, but delivers no such games.

I won't go into any of your other points, but 3D is possible on X360. But afaik only with Side-By-Side or Top-Bottom formats, which both cut the resolution per eye in half.

Due to the useage of HDMI 1.2 in the X360 (the PS3 has HDMI 1.3a) there probably just is not enough bandwith available to support "frame packing" (the method the PS3 and 3D Blu-Ray players etc use), which provides full resolution for each eye.

And with Avatar, Crysis 2 and some others there are 3D games available on 360. As I'm a PS3 only user I don't kow exactly how many there are though.



Lafiel said:
Hephaestos said:

did you look at the sig? it is blind bashing, and no I have no complaints, if you read my initial post I just commented implying that his statement didn't feel honnest because of his sig.

Hmm.. I genuinely don't see what you think is so wrong, so offending about Noctis sig.

Those two gifs are just two funny situations that I'm sure even Iwata-san and Miyamoto-san would giggle about. I don't understand why you are so up in arms about that, but maybe that's because I'm just a PS3 user.

It's not the gifs themselves, it's the 2 laughing smileys next to them that are meant to emphasise the ridicule of the gifs and thus bash the gifs as being ridicule instead of funny. Do you really need to point out that something is funny? no, not unless you want it to be ridicule. That's my beef with the sig, nothing more.

I didn't say it was offending, I just say he bashes Nintendo openly so I implied that saying he's not a 360 basher is not something i'd take his word for. Notice how he himself did not answer, he either didn't care (most likely), or he did understand my comment and left it at that.

My up on arms was only with Mugen who in my apparently noobish experience here (hi jackson), I have come to consider as a free basher of anything not sony, whether he's wrong or right and closed to any opinion but his own, you'll notice that his first answer to me was a rebutal of something I didn't say.

I realize this is a "360 bashing question" thread, and that is why I find it relevent to point out a bashing sig in here even if not 360 oriented.



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RolStoppable said:

You know, I went through the whole trouble of changing my profile settings to see that guy's signature and then it turns out that you made a big deal out of nothing. Those GIFs aren't necessarily bashing, it could very well be that he just thinks they are funny (and the Kojima/Miyamoto one definitely is). In any case, it's nothing that falls under "conclusive proof", so you jumped the gun here.

I'm sorry you bothered to do that on this account. As in my lafiel answer, i find the laughing heads next to the gifs to be meant for ridicule instead of funny, and I only pointed it out because this thread is on bashing (360) and i found it contrasting with the user's statement.

In any case, waisting time of users I respect definitely isn't my aim so i'll just close the door on this thread.



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FinalEvangelion said:
wilco said:

The hardcore Sony fanboys are a strange bunch. Its actually very offputting. Not the fact that they hate on the xbox, its more about how blindly in love they are with sony.

 


Same can be said for all three companies. 


You'd be hardpressed to find an xbox fan thats in love with microsoft. Probably right about nintendo though.



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Lafiel said:
wilco said:

The hardcore Sony fanboys are a strange bunch. Its actually very offputting. Not the fact that they hate on the xbox, its more about how blindly in love they are with sony.

I have both an xbox and a ps3 but I play my xbox more. There are really only 3 reasons for that. I prefer xbox controller, I prefer the user interface and I like gears of war. That is all. I have no allegiance to any brand. If those three features were transplanted to ps3 I would play ps3 more. I'm not in love with Microsoft in fact I hate microsoft, I just so happen to enjoy playing their video game system. If there are people who bash the ps3 it is more often a backlash against the rabid ps3 fanboys than a reaction from xbox fanboys. I know I myself and most xbox players are not in love with Microsoft enough to engage in flame wars for their sake but ps3 fanboys are absolutely head over heels for sony. Its pretty lame.

You know, I always found people very strange that are angry over other people being genuinely excited for sth.

Why would anyone care or even feel offended by that (if they stick to their forums and not actively try to troll others by going into the other forums to say "lololol thing X looks so much better than your thing Y" or shit like that - which ofc is sth some individuals do, but those are small minority) ?

I'm not a fanboy of any system. If I go to a sony related forum its because I am interested in a game there. Therefore I see blind fanboyism all the time. For example people saying that they like every single sony exclusive. How could that be anything but fanboyism? Then once that thing stops being exclusive they no longer like it. Thats ridiculous. Anyone who doesn't think that sony has ever released a bad game is either a rabid fanboy or they have very low standards. There are quite a few people on this site who are constantly repeating sony pr lines... There are also people that actually believe some of the nonsense that sony claims, like saying something "can only be done on the PS3" - load of crap. Defending Sony even when they screw up big time...  Are these guys corporate employees on internet forums? Sometimes it seems that way.

Also when I say fanboys don't assume that I'm talking about every person who plays and enjoys the PS3. I'm just talking about the irrational ones who are a dominant force on gaming forums. They troll xbox and games like gears so there is really no refuge from them in my case.



Lafiel said:
Grandia said:
ThePS3News said:
I personally never owned nor do i plan on getting a 360/xbox. I have nothing against the Xbox brand it just seems like the community and there style of games dont match what i normally like to play.

Anyways i dont hate the 360, I just dont like the company behind it. That being Microsoft.

As far as your question goes, Most PS3 fans like myself dont hate the 360. We just prefer to stay loyal to the brand we are use to. :)



Yes I think Xbox 360 Fans could perfectly live with your attitude, but when you Playstation Fanboys really have no interest at Xbox 360 than why you bash it? Why you mention the Xbox 360  all the time and name her games like Halo, Alan Wake, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia or Fable as crap? If I really don't care about something I don't mention it .

The truth is that Playstation Fans would love to play games like Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake, Gears of War, Fable or Halo plus the xbox 360 gets all the time superior versions of the best multi Games,  but PS3 Fanboys can't play this xbox exclusive games or this multi games in the best quality  so they develop jealousy and their response is to hate the Xbox 360 all the time.

Why don't you ask the individuals who do so instead of asking "the Playstation Fanboys" huh?

This use of generalizations is just infuriating and makes the forum a shittier place, thank you.

I think using the term "fanboy" should be enough to indicate that someone is talking about a specific segment of the ps3 community. Being a fanboy is not a good thing. Some people on here proudly declare themselves to be "playstation fanboys", if that is what you are then you are asking to be lumped into a negative category of gamers. Its okay to be fan but don't call yourself a fanboy unless you want the stigma that goes with it.



Some of the kids who were growing up during the PS1/2 dominance developed a strong loyalty and are now at an age when they want to force their values on others.

I remember a few Sega and Nintendo fans being similarly irritating during the PS1 days but having a much smaller audience when there was no internet.



wilco said:
Lafiel said:
Grandia said:
ThePS3News said:
I personally never owned nor do i plan on getting a 360/xbox. I have nothing against the Xbox brand it just seems like the community and there style of games dont match what i normally like to play.

Anyways i dont hate the 360, I just dont like the company behind it. That being Microsoft.

As far as your question goes, Most PS3 fans like myself dont hate the 360. We just prefer to stay loyal to the brand we are use to. :)



Yes I think Xbox 360 Fans could perfectly live with your attitude, but when you Playstation Fanboys really have no interest at Xbox 360 than why you bash it? Why you mention the Xbox 360  all the time and name her games like Halo, Alan Wake, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia or Fable as crap? If I really don't care about something I don't mention it .

The truth is that Playstation Fans would love to play games like Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake, Gears of War, Fable or Halo plus the xbox 360 gets all the time superior versions of the best multi Games,  but PS3 Fanboys can't play this xbox exclusive games or this multi games in the best quality  so they develop jealousy and their response is to hate the Xbox 360 all the time.

Why don't you ask the individuals who do so instead of asking "the Playstation Fanboys" huh?

This use of generalizations is just infuriating and makes the forum a shittier place, thank you.

I think using the term "fanboy" should be enough to indicate that someone is talking about a specific segment of the ps3 community. Being a fanboy is not a good thing. Some people on here proudly declare themselves to be "playstation fanboys", if that is what you are then you are asking to be lumped into a negative category of gamers. Its okay to be fan but don't call yourself a fanboy unless you want the stigma that goes with it.


Well, first off, I was ranting there, because ThePs3News made a very reasonable post, which clearly shows he is not what is considered to be a "fanboy" and Grandia replied to him with "you Playstation Fanboys, you do X,Y and Z", which is absolutely not what ThePs3News did, so I told him to bring it to people who actually do that and to stop generalizing.

Secondary, I think the term "fanboy" is way overused and often applied in very different situations. A lot of people actually seem to use the words "fan" and "fanboy" as synonyms (look at the threadtitle for example). To me "fanboy" means people who are very much into sth., so much that they may annoy other people with it - personally I don't have anything against these people, I let them be, because I couldn't care less. 

Additionally to me there are the "hateboys" , the people who go out of their way to try to bash things (my observations is, that these people don't have to be "fans" of anything honestly, so I think to group them with "fanboys" is wrong, although ofc a lot of "hateboys" do have a prefered system). They are the pests of the internet as they try to make other people feel as miserable as they probably do feel themselves.

 

And to reply to your former post: I see, you ment the annoying bunch - I often enough see people being criticised (classified as "fanboys" for)for just being excited/happy though, which is sth I'm pretty disgusted by.



woorooney said:
sony fans tend to believe that only exclusives matter, especially the big number that sony keeps pumping out when compared to the smaller pool of exclusives microsoft produces.

some gamers, like myself need only a limited amount of exclusives, because there are a ton of multiplatform games worth buying

exclusives though are not the only factor when establishing a preference, controller, online, hardware quality, price are equally important

to sum up, bigger variety of exclusives coupled with a sense that because sony was dominating in the past, it must be the same now drives some sony fans on edge

add to that that most of them believe that microsoft is evil and only cares about profit(like ALL CORPORATIONS) and you might get an explanation of their actions

the above do not mean that there are not microsoft fans that troll and bash sony


Exclusives do matter bro. Because of Microsofts gameplan this gen third parties are profiting off of both sides instead of taking sides (which in the end is good for the gamers). Exclusive content is where the gamers got screwed and that was another thing ushered in by Microsoft moneyhatting. For those who hate Gamestop, they have no choice but to accept it now. Sony learned a valuable lesson from Microsoft taking all of their third party titles. The only way they would come back into the fight would be to have an arsenal of high quality games that Microsoft couldn't touch. Can't say their plan isn't working. Microsoft is under fire and they never answered back at E3 to those questions of a core first party nature. Watch any gaming show, read any magazine pre E3. This was the main concern.