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3DS will beat PS-VITA. 197 42.18%
 
PS-VITA will beat 3DS. 205 43.90%
 
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sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 


Keep grasping at straws....  PSV will have more 3rd party support because why???  Just because you got bored with the DS doesn't mean others will be bored of the 3DS.   Anyways, you entire post sounds like wishful thinking.  Nintendo games will always trump Sony especially when it comes to hand held.  I like that Sony is competing and keeping Nintendo on their toes but they are simply outclassed.  Nintendo is holding all the cards.  You can say the 3DS had a horrible launch or whatever.  You can say they don't have many games now.  You know what?? Go look at the 3DS release schedule before the holiday season. 

Dude it already has more 3rd party support, 153 3rd party devs are making something for it, thats more then what 3ds has right now, if you need reasons, second analogue will attract devs that normally don't do handhelds, easy dev kit will attract devs trying to jump from phone to console or anyone that wants to make console games but can't afford it, specs and touch screen/pad will attracted people trying to make something unique, ect. and I actually got bored on gba, mainly because the pokemon and mario games are always the freaking same, I think it's only a matter of time before others start feeling the same Nintnedo needs some good new IPs and they don't seem ot be delivering them or have any intention on delivering them, and they trump sony games in sale not always in quality, and it's games are rather kiddy which may deter some people, and again with the lack of innovation in their games and Sony comming out with new IPs, Nintendo only holds 2 cards, earlier launch and more well known brands of games that's it, Sony holds the other cards 

How about Nintendo holding the price cut ability card?  Sure they won't use till next year (around 2012 holiday season is my guess) but Sony will not be able to cut the price for the PSV for at least 2 years. 

Sony has good hardware (might not be most reliable until after hardware revisions).  However, Sony always does a piss poor job in enticing the average consumers (not the "hardcore" elite gamer that most want to be represented as) to go with their products even with the vastly superior tech, features, etc...  Maybe most people that still buy dedicated hand held devices mainly just want a device that plays games?  To me it always seems like Sony should win in sales, but Nintendo knows their consumers better.  Again you state that you were bored with Pokemon and Mario games by GBA.  You do realize that Nintendo pushed plenty of new IPs during the DS era.  Nintendo to you might release the same Mario the same Pokemon, etc..  However, to most people that play these games they realize it is a new experience.

They don't get the price cut card till the system is atleast one year old, so no they don't hold it (though they will hold it before sony) but right now neither has it.

I know what your saying and thats the wild card, Sony has learned alot from their mistakes with the psp and the ps3, Nintendo on the other hand is doing buisness as usual, the main thing we see already is Sony releasing a console at the same price as it's competitiors something thatdidn't havppen with psp or ps3 and one of the main reasons they didn't gain traction until later, I also believe they will do a better job of advertising this time around and will consistently support the psv and not pull devs off it like they did with psp, and I didn't see anything noteworthy on DS that I haven't played before (granted not always on a handheld, but everytime Nintendo comes out with something "new" it just seems like they brushed off something old, and well I know old is new to people who weren't around when old came out, it goes both ways, new doesn't get an automatic buy because thye aren't familiar with the franchises, so I think the older will get bored and the newest could be drawn towards psv shrinking Nintnedos market unless they do something actually new 



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angelsaremyplaything said:
 

I ahve no doubt 3ds will have phone quality games but they won't be priced the same as their phon e game counterparts it will just be shovelware cash grabs, psv will have phone games ports for the same price, and Nintendo has gone on record saying they don't see a need to compete with phone games (or something like that wording is definately off but the point is the same), 3ds/wiiU games I haven't heard of any or even that Nintnedo is looking into it, Nintnedo still doesn't have the store up so I'm not holding my breath for DSi ware games being any good any time soon, and the anlogue replaces the D pad the thing is still locked for 8 directions it's not enhanced at all, Sony is adding a different joystick that can control the camera, 3ds just has a choice been analogue and dpad.

I'm not so sure about the quality new IPs Nintendo isn't interested and third parties are more known for shovelware, sure they will be a few gems but that game isn't even out yet and the 3ds has been out for months there isn't anything like what I'm talking about out on the 3ds yet and psv will have a few on release, and really you think no1 is getting tired of pokemon? 

Well the quality comes from the second analogue and better hardware in short psv is capable of delivering better games then the 3ds is, add to that all the talent Sony devs have and the fact that htey steped up their game on ps3 and that psv is attracting the attention of more 3rd party devs with the fact that Nintnedo only sticks to the same formulas, so well their games might be good when it's the same thing we've doen 10 times it's not as good as it was the first time even if it's better and thrid parties tend to go shovelware on Nintendos platforms, as for the quantitty, like I said psv has more types of games skews then 3ds will and is attracting more 3rd parties (alot of which have never been interested in handhelds before) and that Sony just has more devs and well the 3ds does have a headstart the psv has a good price point (unlike ps3) so it won't be that hard to overcome esepecailly with 3ds lack of games so far 

Dude, there are $2 games on the 3DS store right now!  And, while it didn't cost $2, I got Plants vs. Zombies and Uno (and Shantae: Risky's Revenge) on my 3DS, already!!  And they did announce the Wii U/3DS compatible option!!

Nintendo makes new IP's for every system for every generation.  Do some research.  DS alone had Brain Age, Nintendogs, Proffesor Layton (of the top of my head).  We already got Steel Diver at launch.  You think that's going to be it for Nintendo? These aren't the hardcore franchises that you're thinking of but they sell very well.  What did Sony do with the PSP?  Syphon Filter?  God of War?  Jack and Daxter?  Mod Nation Racers? Both companies will bring the new.

As for the third paragraph, that remains to be seen.  We'll see how Nintendo's first party compares to Sony's first party, soon enough.  I'm willing to bet that Nintendo takes it.  As for third parties, I'm willing to bet that they support the console with the biggest sales first and foremost (such is the nature of the third party).  We'll likely get a lot of ports, too.  Who knows, though.  I can't see the future and neither can you.  All I can see is the past and learn from it.  You seem to believe that what you think SHOULD or COULD happen is what WILL happen. 

 

*edit* I think we were talking about two different things in terms of portable/console compatiblilty.  I think you were talking about how certain PS3 games would have a PSV version and allow you to continue the game on the go.  I was talking about how games for the Wii U would be able to use the 3DS as a controller.  Sorry if I caused some confusion.



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Ckoal said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
sethnintendo said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
Conegamer said:
3DS. It's always the games which count. We know so little about the Vita, so everything is either subjective or rumour, bar graphics (but, history has taught us graphics =/= good console).

I think psv will beat out 3ds in quality and quantity of games, psv unlike 3ds will have phone games, ps3/psv psn games and enhanced bc for psp games on psn (dual analogues will work) psv will also have more 3rd party support and nearly console level games, as well as more quality new ips (gravity daze is what I have my eye on) though 3DS has the universally known francises that sells 10 million but everyone already played them so I think people will start to get bored of them like I did 


Keep grasping at straws....  PSV will have more 3rd party support because why???  Just because you got bored with the DS doesn't mean others will be bored of the 3DS.   Anyways, you entire post sounds like wishful thinking.  Nintendo games will always trump Sony especially when it comes to hand held.  I like that Sony is competing and keeping Nintendo on their toes but they are simply outclassed.  Nintendo is holding all the cards.  You can say the 3DS had a horrible launch or whatever.  You can say they don't have many games now.  You know what?? Go look at the 3DS release schedule before the holiday season. 

Dude it already has more 3rd party support, 153 3rd party devs are making something for it, thats more then what 3ds has right now, if you need reasons, second analogue will attract devs that normally don't do handhelds, easy dev kit will attract devs trying to jump from phone to console or anyone that wants to make console games but can't afford it, specs and touch screen/pad will attracted people trying to make something unique, ect. and I actually got bored on gba, mainly because the pokemon and mario games are always the freaking same, I think it's only a matter of time before others start feeling the same Nintnedo needs some good new IPs and they don't seem ot be delivering them or have any intention on delivering them, and they trump sony games in sale not always in quality, and it's games are rather kiddy which may deter some people, and again with the lack of innovation in their games and Sony comming out with new IPs, Nintendo only holds 2 cards, earlier launch and more well known brands of games that's it, Sony holds the other cards 


IDK why you think that 153 Devs working on a system means something amazing is going to happen. 

1. The games could actually never come out if they don't make it past the planning stages or test stages

2. Just cause they are being worked on doesn't mean that they are going to be good games

3. When did quantity ever equal quality 

4. At no point has it been revealed that these are PSV exclusives

5. More devs could mean that there are going to be more shovelware out there. REmember for every Mario game there are 100 games that try to copy it. 

6. You are acting like the 3DS is being ignored by 3rd Party Developers. It's a Nintendo  Handheld it's going to get support

I don't get why you are acting like the Vita has already won the battle because 153 devs say they are working on the system. Besides Nintendo already said they don't want those Garage Developers on their system, remember them and Angry Birds Creators got into it after that. 

Also I don't see how the PSV will have an easy developers kit that can be ported from smartphone to system seeing as how The PSV has two track pads, and buttons and analogue sticks. So settle down man, you have high hopes, which you should for the system you are putting your money behind, but stop acting like everyone has to share your sentiments 

1. True, but we really don't have enough information to know how likely that is, personally I think the ease of development will make that fairly unlikely  

2. Again true, but alot of talented and well known devs on the list http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/110607a_e.pdf  (last page) so alot of them will be good 

3.redundant, you already said this with 2

4. given the capabilities of the hardware, back touchpad and second analogue, that would suggest more games will be exclusive then not since ports would be a hassle 

5. Nintendo platforms are more acustome to shovelware then Sony ones, and again alot of talented devs on the list, not saying there won't be any, but it's not going to be all shovelware or anywhere close like you're trying to make it seem 

6. Again third parties tend to support Nintnedo handhelds with mostly shovelware, and again psv has more 3rd party devs signed up

7. Look at the list, these aren't garage devs, garage devs wouldn't be able to get acess to a dev kit yet, so Sony will have those on top on the 153 as well as phone games from pssuite, so yeah...

8. psv has confirmed PSsuite, it's basically going to emulate how the psphone plays games, maybe adding in the backpad and analogue as choices



d21lewis said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
 

I ahve no doubt 3ds will have phone quality games but they won't be priced the same as their phon e game counterparts it will just be shovelware cash grabs, psv will have phone games ports for the same price, and Nintendo has gone on record saying they don't see a need to compete with phone games (or something like that wording is definately off but the point is the same), 3ds/wiiU games I haven't heard of any or even that Nintnedo is looking into it, Nintnedo still doesn't have the store up so I'm not holding my breath for DSi ware games being any good any time soon, and the anlogue replaces the D pad the thing is still locked for 8 directions it's not enhanced at all, Sony is adding a different joystick that can control the camera, 3ds just has a choice been analogue and dpad.

I'm not so sure about the quality new IPs Nintendo isn't interested and third parties are more known for shovelware, sure they will be a few gems but that game isn't even out yet and the 3ds has been out for months there isn't anything like what I'm talking about out on the 3ds yet and psv will have a few on release, and really you think no1 is getting tired of pokemon? 

Well the quality comes from the second analogue and better hardware in short psv is capable of delivering better games then the 3ds is, add to that all the talent Sony devs have and the fact that htey steped up their game on ps3 and that psv is attracting the attention of more 3rd party devs with the fact that Nintnedo only sticks to the same formulas, so well their games might be good when it's the same thing we've doen 10 times it's not as good as it was the first time even if it's better and thrid parties tend to go shovelware on Nintendos platforms, as for the quantitty, like I said psv has more types of games skews then 3ds will and is attracting more 3rd parties (alot of which have never been interested in handhelds before) and that Sony just has more devs and well the 3ds does have a headstart the psv has a good price point (unlike ps3) so it won't be that hard to overcome esepecailly with 3ds lack of games so far 

Dude, there are $2 games on the 3DS store right now!  And, while it didn't cost $2, I got Plants vs. Zombies and Uno (and Shantae: Risky's Revenge) on my 3DS, already!!  And they did announce the Wii U/3DS compatible option!!

Nintendo makes new IP's for every system for every generation.  Do some research.  DS alone had Brain Age, Nintendogs, Proffesor Layton (of the top of my head).  We already got Steel Diver at launch.  You think that's going to be it for Nintendo? These aren't the hardcore franchises that you're thinking of but they sell very well.  What did Sony do with the PSP?  Syphon Filter?  God of War?  Jack and Daxter?  Mod Nation Racers? Both companies will bring the new.

As for the third paragraph, that remains to be seen.  We'll see how Nintendo's first party compares to Sony's first party, soon enough.  I'm willing to bet that Nintendo takes it.  As for third parties, I'm willing to bet that they support the console with the biggest sales first and foremost (such is the nature of the third party).  We'll likely get a lot of ports, too.  Who knows, though.  I can't see the future and neither can you.  All I can see is the past and learn from it.  You seem to believe that what you think SHOULD or COULD happen is what WILL happen. 

Like I said, they will be there but overpriced, and link to the wiiU/3DS thing

None of those concepts are not new, DS was just a more popular platform for them, and I agree with you that Sony neglected the psp but they are already making some interesting new Ips for the psv and I expect them to continue based on their statements.

You are right aout it remains to be seen but based on what Nintnedo has released so far and what Sony has shown my money is on Sony this time, and as for third parties, psp had better quality third party games then DS which was loaded down with shovelware, the sales thing attracts more shovelware and cash grabs then decent support and again psv is making devs interested in it who weren' t interested in handhelds before at all 



Third parties tend to support Nintnedo handhelds with mostly shovelware...
lol
3rd party efforts may look all like shovelware compared to Nintys 1st party games on a Ninty handheld, but yeah, nice try!
I wish i would be as young and ingenous as you.



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Hey guys did anyone else know that Netflix was up for the 3DS



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Ckoal said:
Hey guys did anyone else know that Netflix was up for the 3DS


Yep...  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=131641&page=1#

A decent feature for Netflix subscribers. I am 99.9% sure that the PSV will support Netflix also (would work better with 3G model since you don't have to manual connect to WiFi everywhere you go, but the ease of use comes with the downside of a data plan).   PS... I still love you Netflix even though you raised the rates on streaming with 1 disc out!



d21lewis said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
 

I ahve no doubt 3ds will have phone quality games but they won't be priced the same as their phon e game counterparts it will just be shovelware cash grabs, psv will have phone games ports for the same price, and Nintendo has gone on record saying they don't see a need to compete with phone games (or something like that wording is definately off but the point is the same), 3ds/wiiU games I haven't heard of any or even that Nintnedo is looking into it, Nintnedo still doesn't have the store up so I'm not holding my breath for DSi ware games being any good any time soon, and the anlogue replaces the D pad the thing is still locked for 8 directions it's not enhanced at all, Sony is adding a different joystick that can control the camera, 3ds just has a choice been analogue and dpad.

I'm not so sure about the quality new IPs Nintendo isn't interested and third parties are more known for shovelware, sure they will be a few gems but that game isn't even out yet and the 3ds has been out for months there isn't anything like what I'm talking about out on the 3ds yet and psv will have a few on release, and really you think no1 is getting tired of pokemon? 

Well the quality comes from the second analogue and better hardware in short psv is capable of delivering better games then the 3ds is, add to that all the talent Sony devs have and the fact that htey steped up their game on ps3 and that psv is attracting the attention of more 3rd party devs with the fact that Nintnedo only sticks to the same formulas, so well their games might be good when it's the same thing we've doen 10 times it's not as good as it was the first time even if it's better and thrid parties tend to go shovelware on Nintendos platforms, as for the quantitty, like I said psv has more types of games skews then 3ds will and is attracting more 3rd parties (alot of which have never been interested in handhelds before) and that Sony just has more devs and well the 3ds does have a headstart the psv has a good price point (unlike ps3) so it won't be that hard to overcome esepecailly with 3ds lack of games so far 

Dude, there are $2 games on the 3DS store right now!  And, while it didn't cost $2, I got Plants vs. Zombies and Uno (and Shantae: Risky's Revenge) on my 3DS, already!!  And they did announce the Wii U/3DS compatible option!!

Nintendo makes new IP's for every system for every generation.  Do some research.  DS alone had Brain Age, Nintendogs, Proffesor Layton (of the top of my head).  We already got Steel Diver at launch.  You think that's going to be it for Nintendo? These aren't the hardcore franchises that you're thinking of but they sell very well.  What did Sony do with the PSP?  Syphon Filter?  God of War?  Jack and Daxter?  Mod Nation Racers? Both companies will bring the new.

As for the third paragraph, that remains to be seen.  We'll see how Nintendo's first party compares to Sony's first party, soon enough.  I'm willing to bet that Nintendo takes it.  As for third parties, I'm willing to bet that they support the console with the biggest sales first and foremost (such is the nature of the third party).  We'll likely get a lot of ports, too.  Who knows, though.  I can't see the future and neither can you.  All I can see is the past and learn from it.  You seem to believe that what you think SHOULD or COULD happen is what WILL happen. 

 

*edit* I think we were talking about two different things in terms of portable/console compatiblilty.  I think you were talking about how certain PS3 games would have a PSV version and allow you to continue the game on the go.  I was talking about how games for the Wii U would be able to use the 3DS as a controller.  Sorry if I caused some confusion.

to be fair, PSP have their 2 dollar PSN minis and has have them for years, dont you think Sony will continue this for PSV and IMO the phones have that cheap game thing on lock, at least for now. Does UNO for 3DS have an online function, im talking playing, not leaderboard crap, if it does i will freak. THe online scene for PS3 is slow



oniyide said:
d21lewis said:
angelsaremyplaything said:
 

I ahve no doubt 3ds will have phone quality games but they won't be priced the same as their phon e game counterparts it will just be shovelware cash grabs, psv will have phone games ports for the same price, and Nintendo has gone on record saying they don't see a need to compete with phone games (or something like that wording is definately off but the point is the same), 3ds/wiiU games I haven't heard of any or even that Nintnedo is looking into it, Nintnedo still doesn't have the store up so I'm not holding my breath for DSi ware games being any good any time soon, and the anlogue replaces the D pad the thing is still locked for 8 directions it's not enhanced at all, Sony is adding a different joystick that can control the camera, 3ds just has a choice been analogue and dpad.

I'm not so sure about the quality new IPs Nintendo isn't interested and third parties are more known for shovelware, sure they will be a few gems but that game isn't even out yet and the 3ds has been out for months there isn't anything like what I'm talking about out on the 3ds yet and psv will have a few on release, and really you think no1 is getting tired of pokemon? 

Well the quality comes from the second analogue and better hardware in short psv is capable of delivering better games then the 3ds is, add to that all the talent Sony devs have and the fact that htey steped up their game on ps3 and that psv is attracting the attention of more 3rd party devs with the fact that Nintnedo only sticks to the same formulas, so well their games might be good when it's the same thing we've doen 10 times it's not as good as it was the first time even if it's better and thrid parties tend to go shovelware on Nintendos platforms, as for the quantitty, like I said psv has more types of games skews then 3ds will and is attracting more 3rd parties (alot of which have never been interested in handhelds before) and that Sony just has more devs and well the 3ds does have a headstart the psv has a good price point (unlike ps3) so it won't be that hard to overcome esepecailly with 3ds lack of games so far 

Dude, there are $2 games on the 3DS store right now!  And, while it didn't cost $2, I got Plants vs. Zombies and Uno (and Shantae: Risky's Revenge) on my 3DS, already!!  And they did announce the Wii U/3DS compatible option!!

Nintendo makes new IP's for every system for every generation.  Do some research.  DS alone had Brain Age, Nintendogs, Proffesor Layton (of the top of my head).  We already got Steel Diver at launch.  You think that's going to be it for Nintendo? These aren't the hardcore franchises that you're thinking of but they sell very well.  What did Sony do with the PSP?  Syphon Filter?  God of War?  Jack and Daxter?  Mod Nation Racers? Both companies will bring the new.

As for the third paragraph, that remains to be seen.  We'll see how Nintendo's first party compares to Sony's first party, soon enough.  I'm willing to bet that Nintendo takes it.  As for third parties, I'm willing to bet that they support the console with the biggest sales first and foremost (such is the nature of the third party).  We'll likely get a lot of ports, too.  Who knows, though.  I can't see the future and neither can you.  All I can see is the past and learn from it.  You seem to believe that what you think SHOULD or COULD happen is what WILL happen. 

 

*edit* I think we were talking about two different things in terms of portable/console compatiblilty.  I think you were talking about how certain PS3 games would have a PSV version and allow you to continue the game on the go.  I was talking about how games for the Wii U would be able to use the 3DS as a controller.  Sorry if I caused some confusion.

to be fair, PSP have their 2 dollar PSN minis and has have them for years, dont you think Sony will continue this for PSV and IMO the phones have that cheap game thing on lock, at least for now. Does UNO for 3DS have an online function, im talking playing, not leaderboard crap, if it does i will freak. THe online scene for PS3 is slow


Gotta go to work but before I do:  Yeah, Uno supports online play.  Also, I have a few PSP Minis (That camelot golf game, some tennis game, Terra Dark Warrior, Tetris, and probably a few I can't remember right now).  I wasn't saying that Sony didn't have the Minis or cellphone style games.  I was just countering the argument that the 3DS didn't have such titles.



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Sony was leader in 2 generations of home console who have predict the PS3 will don't beat Xbox360 and wii it the same for nintendo if PSVita is a better handheld and game are better then 3DS nintendo will loose the leader.
And why talk about ds and psp battle it's not the same sroty then 3DS/PSVita.
Why some predict PSVita will don't have good game like PSP?



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m