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o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There is no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can support more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functions of the PS3 in order to work. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.

im beginning to get the idea that this is pointless "But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3"

the resolution of the tablet screen confirmed by nintendo ( up till now but may be revised later on ) : 854 x 480 (WVGA) 

high def resolution ( bare minimum ) : 1280×720 ( 720p ) 

whats going on up there? / please explain that to me and it correlates with what you keep posted

 

"So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth"

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain 

 

look man all i ask if you try to debate me is at least to try to make an effort to educate yourself on whats going...

NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls( your 480p x2= 960, the ps3 currently streams at 272p). But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful.

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain

Of course, you have to sign in to psn to start remote play dont you? But u cannot use the internet for anything else( or anything else meaningful is what i should of said)  because you are using the PS3's single bandwidth!!!(Like downloading and playing online). Jeez



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o_O.Q said:
HappySqurriel said:
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theres a huge disparity between a device that only has a screen, memory and a few buttons in  comparison to a device which has accelerometers, mics, a cam, touchscreen, sensor bar etc 

"Ebook readers with far more features can also be picked up for less than $100 today"

you still haven't demonstrated that as the cheapest device you linked while impressive at that price doesn't have half the features of the wii u controller


A ebook reader also has a CPU, internal memory, an internal mass storage device, memory card readers, usb ports and several other components that a "dummy" device like the Wii U controller won't have ...

Outside of a touch screen there is almost nothing (that we know about) that would make the Wii U controller significantly more expensive than what the Wiimote was when it first launched.

apparently cameras, mics, sensor bars, etc don't cost anything to incorporate into controllers that would otherwise cost $50 - $60 but regardless discussing this any further is pointless i guess we have to agree to disagree on this

First off, a "Sensor bar" is 2 UV-LEDs and cost next to nothing ... On top of that, the low quality CMOS sensors (cameras) and microphones that are (likely) to be part of the Wii U controller might add $1 to the cost to manufacture. After all, the Wiimote contained a digital camera and a speaker and it wasn't excessively expensive; and over the past 5 years the cost of CMOS sensors has fallen while the quality has increased.

The only reason we would have to "agree to disagree" is that you simply are unwilling to accept reality. The only unusually expensive component in the Wii U controller is the touch-screen, similar touch screens are already in devices which are under $100, and touch screens are falling in prices at an amazing rate. Nintendo is following the exact same strategy they have been for years and designing a system based on very conventional inexpensive technology.

While I don't expect a Wii U controller to sell for $40, and I believe it will probably sell for $80 to $100 with a game, I highly doubt it would sell for more than $100. I expect that when iSuppli produces a BOM for the Wii U controller (probably 12 months from now) the total cost will be estimated at $20 with the screen accounting for $8 to $10 of that; after assembly, distribution and Nintendo's profit it will probaby be sold to retailers for $40 to $50, and those retailers will sell it for $80 to $100.



cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There is no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can support more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functions of the PS3 in order to work. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.

im beginning to get the idea that this is pointless "But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3"

the resolution of the tablet screen confirmed by nintendo ( up till now but may be revised later on ) : 854 x 480 (WVGA) 

high def resolution ( bare minimum ) : 1280×720 ( 720p ) 

whats going on up there? / please explain that to me and it correlates with what you keep posted

 

"So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth"

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain 

 

look man all i ask if you try to debate me is at least to try to make an effort to educate yourself on whats going...

NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls( your 480 x2= 960). But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful.

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain

Of course, you have to sign in to psn to start remote play dont you? But u cannot use the internet for anything else( or anything else meaningful is what i should of said)  because you are using the PS3's single bandwidth!!!(Like downloading and playing online). Jeez


no... remote play works either via local direct connection ( where you don't have to have an internet connection at all ) or over the internet again you demonstrate even further that you have no knowledge of how it works so why bother commenting on it? first go read up on it understand how it works then comment

"But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful."

http://thelatestgaming.com/wii-u-controller-isnt-hd/

quote from the article :

"Nintendo has confirmed to the media at E3 that the Wii U controller screen is not HD"

 

"NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls"

 

no.... nintendo never confirmed that the wii u has support for more than one controller ( if i'm wrong prove it with a link ) and whats more is that all of the demos they've done so far imply that they didn't really consider supporting multiple controllers... go watch the demos again if you doubt me how many of them show more than one being used?... bare in mind i'm not saying they won't do it later on but that so far they haven't shown or said they will support it



HappySqurriel said:
o_O.Q said:
HappySqurriel said:
o_O.Q said:


theres a huge disparity between a device that only has a screen, memory and a few buttons in  comparison to a device which has accelerometers, mics, a cam, touchscreen, sensor bar etc 

"Ebook readers with far more features can also be picked up for less than $100 today"

you still haven't demonstrated that as the cheapest device you linked while impressive at that price doesn't have half the features of the wii u controller


A ebook reader also has a CPU, internal memory, an internal mass storage device, memory card readers, usb ports and several other components that a "dummy" device like the Wii U controller won't have ...

Outside of a touch screen there is almost nothing (that we know about) that would make the Wii U controller significantly more expensive than what the Wiimote was when it first launched.

apparently cameras, mics, sensor bars, etc don't cost anything to incorporate into controllers that would otherwise cost $50 - $60 but regardless discussing this any further is pointless i guess we have to agree to disagree on this

First off, a "Sensor bar" is 2 UV-LEDs and cost next to nothing ... On top of that, the low quality CMOS sensors (cameras) and microphones that are (likely) to be part of the Wii U controller might add $1 to the cost to manufacture. After all, the Wiimote contained a digital camera and a speaker and it wasn't excessively expensive; and over the past 5 years the cost of CMOS sensors has fallen while the quality has increased.

The only reason we would have to "agree to disagree" is that you simply are unwilling to accept reality. The only unusually expensive component in the Wii U controller is the touch-screen, similar touch screens are already in devices which are under $100, and touch screens are falling in prices at an amazing rate. Nintendo is following the exact same strategy they have been for years and designing a system based on very conventional inexpensive technology.

While I don't expect a Wii U controller to sell for $40, and I believe it will probably sell for $80 to $100 with a game, I highly doubt it would sell for more than $100. I expect that when iSuppli produces a BOM for the Wii U controller (probably 12 months from now) the total cost will be estimated at $20 with the screen accounting for $8 to $10 of that; after assembly, distribution and Nintendo's profit it will probaby be sold to retailers for $40 to $50, and those retailers will sell it for $80 to $100.


"After all, the Wiimote contained a digital camera " i didn't know the wiimote was capable of the video communication demonstrated at 2:16 here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg&feature=player_detailpage

because the infrared sensor from the wiimote is not the same as the camera present in the wii u controller 

"The only reason we would have to "agree to disagree" is that you simply are unwilling to accept reality"

lol ok buddy the wii u controller will be cheap thats why up till now nintendo can't come out and tell people whether they will support more than one controller even though they confirmed that its not a technical issue... in fact i'll ask you why do you think they are relunctant to provide more details on support for more controllers? its not a tech issue, you believe its not the price therefore what? i'lll very interested to see what you think it is

btw reality for each person is determined by their knowledge to a certain extent and to my knowledge current controllers retail for $50 - $60 without the aforementioned features therefore logically i come to the conclusion that i have... its not about me "unwilling to accept"

i don't think that if this controller could retail for $80 that nintendo would be so hesitant to announce support for multiple controllers but thats my opinion  



o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There is no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can support more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functions of the PS3 in order to work. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.

im beginning to get the idea that this is pointless "But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3"

the resolution of the tablet screen confirmed by nintendo ( up till now but may be revised later on ) : 854 x 480 (WVGA) 

high def resolution ( bare minimum ) : 1280×720 ( 720p ) 

whats going on up there? / please explain that to me and it correlates with what you keep posted

 

"So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth"

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain 

 

look man all i ask if you try to debate me is at least to try to make an effort to educate yourself on whats going...

NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls( your 480 x2= 960). But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful.

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain

Of course, you have to sign in to psn to start remote play dont you? But u cannot use the internet for anything else( or anything else meaningful is what i should of said)  because you are using the PS3's single bandwidth!!!(Like downloading and playing online). Jeez


no... remote play works either via local direct connection or over the internet again you demonstrate beven further that you have no knowledge of how it works so why bother commenting on it?

"But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful."

http://thelatestgaming.com/wii-u-controller-isnt-hd/

quote from the article :

"Nintendo has confirmed to the media at E3 that the Wii U controller screen is not HD"

 

"NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls"

 

no.... nintendo never confirmed that the wii u has support for more than one controller ( if i'm wrong prove it with a link ) and whats more is that all of the demos they've done so far imply that they didn't really consider supporting multiple controllers... go watch the demos again if you doubt me how many of them show more than one being used?... bare in mind i'm not saying they won't do it later on but that so far they haven't shown or said they will support it

 

http://wiiublog.com/multiple-controllers-on-the-wii-u-is-possible-but-cost-is-an-issue/

Iwata himself.



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o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There is no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can support more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functions of the PS3 in order to work. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.

im beginning to get the idea that this is pointless "But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3"

the resolution of the tablet screen confirmed by nintendo ( up till now but may be revised later on ) : 854 x 480 (WVGA) 

high def resolution ( bare minimum ) : 1280×720 ( 720p ) 

whats going on up there? / please explain that to me and it correlates with what you keep posted

 

"So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth"

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain 

 

look man all i ask if you try to debate me is at least to try to make an effort to educate yourself on whats going...

NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls( your 480 x2= 960). But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful.

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain

Of course, you have to sign in to psn to start remote play dont you? But u cannot use the internet for anything else( or anything else meaningful is what i should of said)  because you are using the PS3's single bandwidth!!!(Like downloading and playing online). Jeez


no... remote play works either via local direct connection ( where you don't have to have an internet connection at all ) or over the internet again you demonstrate even further that you have no knowledge of how it works so why bother commenting on it? first go read up on it understand how it works then comment

"But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful."

http://thelatestgaming.com/wii-u-controller-isnt-hd/

quote from the article :

"Nintendo has confirmed to the media at E3 that the Wii U controller screen is not HD"

 

"NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls"

 

no.... nintendo never confirmed that the wii u has support for more than one controller ( if i'm wrong prove it with a link ) and whats more is that all of the demos they've done so far imply that they didn't really consider supporting multiple controllers... go watch the demos again if you doubt me how many of them show more than one being used?... bare in mind i'm not saying they won't do it later on but that so far they haven't shown or said they will support it

no... remote play works either via local direct connection ( where you don't have to have an internet connection at all ) or over the internet again you demonstrate even further that you have no knowledge of how it works so why bother commenting on it? first go read up on it understand how it works then comment.

And where does the bandwith for streaming video locally comes from  hmmmm? Bluetooth?

 

And no that wireless/wired configuration is impossible? LOL.  Like I said before.  They use the same bandwidth. the data transmits from the single 'modem' (think of the wireless antenna/wired Ethernet as a splitter.  They cant transmit independent data at the same time).   If the PS3 had launch with the feature stream significant data to multiple bandwidths it would have been even more expensive at launch. and  it would be possible to use it to get twice  speed on same or multiple routers.

 

 

If you still don't understand what Im saying  here

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/310648/news/wii-u-and-3ds-connection-has-limitations-iwata-admits/

since the 3ds use 802.11g connection. it forces the single wiiU modem to stop streaming to internet(wirelessly or wired) and the modem/transmitter would use its 802.11g antennae to transmit to the 3ds. Else they would be using the 3ds,  Wii/WiiU configuration.



My 3ds friendcode: 5413-0232-9676 (G-cyber)



cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There is no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can support more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functions of the PS3 in order to work. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.

im beginning to get the idea that this is pointless "But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3"

the resolution of the tablet screen confirmed by nintendo ( up till now but may be revised later on ) : 854 x 480 (WVGA) 

high def resolution ( bare minimum ) : 1280×720 ( 720p ) 

whats going on up there? / please explain that to me and it correlates with what you keep posted

 

"So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth"

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain 

 

look man all i ask if you try to debate me is at least to try to make an effort to educate yourself on whats going...

NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls( your 480 x2= 960). But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful.

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain

Of course, you have to sign in to psn to start remote play dont you? But u cannot use the internet for anything else( or anything else meaningful is what i should of said)  because you are using the PS3's single bandwidth!!!(Like downloading and playing online). Jeez


no... remote play works either via local direct connection or over the internet again you demonstrate beven further that you have no knowledge of how it works so why bother commenting on it?

"But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful."

http://thelatestgaming.com/wii-u-controller-isnt-hd/

quote from the article :

"Nintendo has confirmed to the media at E3 that the Wii U controller screen is not HD"

 

"NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls"

 

no.... nintendo never confirmed that the wii u has support for more than one controller ( if i'm wrong prove it with a link ) and whats more is that all of the demos they've done so far imply that they didn't really consider supporting multiple controllers... go watch the demos again if you doubt me how many of them show more than one being used?... bare in mind i'm not saying they won't do it later on but that so far they haven't shown or said they will support it

 

http://wiiublog.com/multiple-controllers-on-the-wii-u-is-possible-but-cost-is-an-issue/

Iwata himself.

right... but the point is that it has not been confirmed that it will use multiple controllers as you said earlier all thats been said so far is that it is possible but that the price is prohibitive and so they didn't have plans of releasing the controller seperately... 



HappySqurriel said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
This is not good for Nintendo. If most of the features can be mimicked then they just lost 51 million possible consumers whom they are aiming at with the WiiU.

I have been saying for a while that the Wii U wasn't going to be sufficient to get PS360 owners to upgrade and this only cements that they aren't offering enough. This and their flawed position on online.

Considering the PS3 will probably have a price drop this year the PS3/V combo will be price competitive especially for the 51 million that already own a PS3.Were I Sony I would put the PS4 on hold unless M$ announces a new console.


I doesn't matter whether a feature can be "mimicked", it only matters whether a feature will be taken advantage of at a high enough quality often enough to have an impact on sales; and anyone who believes this is the case with the PS Vita/PS3 connectivity is simply being delusional. After all, over 5 years ago Sony talked about how the PSP and PS3 could interact and yet almost no games were released that took advantage of those features; why would we expect PS Vita/PS3 connectivity to be taken advantage of when PSP/PS3 connectivity never was?


Well we already have E3 footage of this functionality in 3rd party games.  We even have one 3rd party developer claiming that all of his ps3 titles will contain this functionality.  I hope that is sufficient for you to believe it is high enough quality.  Or am I simply being delusional

Remote play streamed far more than game content.  It was nice not having to have a gigantic expensive memory stick when I was near wireless to have access to the movies and music on my PS3 from my PSP. There were plenty of reasons to use Remote Play even if only a few games took advantage.  I'm sure you think that doesn't matter but the PS3 as well as PSP were marketed as being entertainment devices and not just videogame systems so I believe it is fair to count that content.

Things like PSV vs PS3 online play and third party demos show us that it is being taken advantage of.  



o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
o_O.Q said:
cyberninja45 said:
Mr Khan said:
cyberninja45 said:

Can the PS3 transmitted  HD video wirelessly?

Given that remote play works over the internet, i imagine it would certainly be capable of achieving that locally.


I doubt it. I seen the video on youtube but I cant tell if its wireless. In fact, heck no PS3 doesnt have this feature. What  the hell is thread about?

you being unaware of the feature does not mean "PS3 doesnt have this feature" 

( video of game streaming from ps3 - psp ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

...all it means is that you were unaaware of it

That video is conveniently dark, cant tell if its wireless or even if its a regular ps3 transmitting it.

um dude remote play is a known feature of ps3 it entails wireless transmission of content wireless between p-s3 and psp more details :

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/12/30/ps3-how-to-setting-up-remote-play-between-your-psp-and-ps3/

http://uk.playstation.com/psp/support/network/detail/linked240472/item66124/Remote-Play/

 

why is it so hard to believe that it supported this? what else do you guys think is needed for this other than a wireless connection and enough processing power

No PS3 802.11g  cannot transmit HD video wirelessly. U think there is a way to connect your ps3 to your hdTv wirelessy ( with some wireless adapter for the tv)? Even at 720P? NO.

So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else.

So in a nutshell if u are using this feature:

  • The picture quality will be degraded.
  • U cannot play your games online

IN one sentence

The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly,  stream normally to hdtv, and be connected to the internet all at the same time. Not to the slightest

Which means PS3+ vita cannot do What the WiiU can do. This thread is irrelevant

 

 

 

"The ps3 cannot stream HD content to vita wirelessly"

quick question does the wii u controller output HD? go research that then you'll realise how what you just posted makes no sense

"So in a nutshell"

  • The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u ) 
  • U cannot play your games online ( this point lost me how? )
"So since the PS3 is using the 802.11g to transmit lower quality video ( LIKE THE WII U ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK ITS USING 802.11 ) this means it cannot connect to the internet or use the internet for anything else. i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired 

 

quick question does the wii u controller output HD

The picture quality will be degraded. ( the same as with the wii u )

There is no official specs. And no, counting pixel from videos don't count lol.  But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3. On a 6" screen  WIth the HDTV in front of them to compare. And the Wii U  can support more than 1 controller ( at least twice the resolution).

 

 

i asked this above but how? the ps3 has 2 methods of online connectivity wifi and wired

Remote play uses the internet functions of the PS3 in order to work. So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth. Else you can use ps3 wireless and wired connections together and get twice the internet speed. U not gonna find some work around by using a wired connection for internet LOL.

im beginning to get the idea that this is pointless "But there is no noticeable degradation or any change of quality at all in the demos shown at E3"

the resolution of the tablet screen confirmed by nintendo ( up till now but may be revised later on ) : 854 x 480 (WVGA) 

high def resolution ( bare minimum ) : 1280×720 ( 720p ) 

whats going on up there? / please explain that to me and it correlates with what you keep posted

 

"So no matter if its wireless or not you are using the ps3 bandwidth"

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain 

 

look man all i ask if you try to debate me is at least to try to make an effort to educate yourself on whats going...

NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls( your 480 x2= 960). But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful.

its possible to still access psn while playing lair according to what you've posted that shouldn't be possible please explain

Of course, you have to sign in to psn to start remote play dont you? But u cannot use the internet for anything else( or anything else meaningful is what i should of said)  because you are using the PS3's single bandwidth!!!(Like downloading and playing online). Jeez


no... remote play works either via local direct connection or over the internet again you demonstrate beven further that you have no knowledge of how it works so why bother commenting on it?

"But sorry  cant find anything on Ninty confirming the resolution so some links can be helpful."

http://thelatestgaming.com/wii-u-controller-isnt-hd/

quote from the article :

"Nintendo has confirmed to the media at E3 that the Wii U controller screen is not HD"

 

"NIntendo did confirm the WiiU is capitable with more than one controls"

 

no.... nintendo never confirmed that the wii u has support for more than one controller ( if i'm wrong prove it with a link ) and whats more is that all of the demos they've done so far imply that they didn't really consider supporting multiple controllers... go watch the demos again if you doubt me how many of them show more than one being used?... bare in mind i'm not saying they won't do it later on but that so far they haven't shown or said they will support it

 

http://wiiublog.com/multiple-controllers-on-the-wii-u-is-possible-but-cost-is-an-issue/

Iwata himself.

right... but the point is that it has not been confirmed that it will use multiple controllers as you said earlier all thats been said so far is that it is possible but that the price is prohibitive and so they didn't have plans of releasing the controller seperately... 

 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/nintendos-shigeru-miyamoto-explains-the-new-wii-u/story-e6frfrt9-1226071923070

They are researching ways of play if your friend brings a controller. but the basic premise for Nintendo right now is one controller per home. Because of cost.  But  since its very  possible third parties can use it if they wish.

 



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Zlejedi said:
ethomaz said:
Yes. The PS3 and Vita integration could do all the things Wii U do.

The problem is the games to support it... in Wii U every game will support it... but every game will support PS3 and Vita integration? I guess not.

Yeah for example we have historical evidence of how well third party multiplatform games supported sisaxis ;)

You have a pretty good point.  I'm goin guess for the first year or so, not many 3rd parties are going support the WiiU to its fullest.  Graphics will be minimally upgraded and the tablet controller will mostly be used for navigating menus/inventories. 

To those saying it will cost twice as much for a PS3 and a Vita, I think your underestimating how much Nintendo will be asking for the WiiU.  I'm going to be guessing that the WiiU will launch for $350-$400.  The controller alone looks like it would retail for well over $100, let alone the system.  And Nintendo likes to sell its system for a profit.  Before the WiiU launches, I can see Sony dropping the PS3 to $200.  Now add a $250 Vita and you get $450.  So in all likelihood, the WiiU may end up only being $50 less than a PS3/Vita combo.  Which for that extra $50, you get a multi-touch screen, as well as true portability.