HappySqurriel said:
o_O.Q said:
HappySqurriel said:
o_O.Q said:
theres a huge disparity between a device that only has a screen, memory and a few buttons in comparison to a device which has accelerometers, mics, a cam, touchscreen, sensor bar etc
"Ebook readers with far more features can also be picked up for less than $100 today"
you still haven't demonstrated that as the cheapest device you linked while impressive at that price doesn't have half the features of the wii u controller
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A ebook reader also has a CPU, internal memory, an internal mass storage device, memory card readers, usb ports and several other components that a "dummy" device like the Wii U controller won't have ...
Outside of a touch screen there is almost nothing (that we know about) that would make the Wii U controller significantly more expensive than what the Wiimote was when it first launched.
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apparently cameras, mics, sensor bars, etc don't cost anything to incorporate into controllers that would otherwise cost $50 - $60 but regardless discussing this any further is pointless i guess we have to agree to disagree on this
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First off, a "Sensor bar" is 2 UV-LEDs and cost next to nothing ... On top of that, the low quality CMOS sensors (cameras) and microphones that are (likely) to be part of the Wii U controller might add $1 to the cost to manufacture. After all, the Wiimote contained a digital camera and a speaker and it wasn't excessively expensive; and over the past 5 years the cost of CMOS sensors has fallen while the quality has increased.
The only reason we would have to "agree to disagree" is that you simply are unwilling to accept reality. The only unusually expensive component in the Wii U controller is the touch-screen, similar touch screens are already in devices which are under $100, and touch screens are falling in prices at an amazing rate. Nintendo is following the exact same strategy they have been for years and designing a system based on very conventional inexpensive technology.
While I don't expect a Wii U controller to sell for $40, and I believe it will probably sell for $80 to $100 with a game, I highly doubt it would sell for more than $100. I expect that when iSuppli produces a BOM for the Wii U controller (probably 12 months from now) the total cost will be estimated at $20 with the screen accounting for $8 to $10 of that; after assembly, distribution and Nintendo's profit it will probaby be sold to retailers for $40 to $50, and those retailers will sell it for $80 to $100.
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"After all, the Wiimote contained a digital camera " i didn't know the wiimote was capable of the video communication demonstrated at 2:16 here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg&feature=player_detailpage
because the infrared sensor from the wiimote is not the same as the camera present in the wii u controller
"The only reason we would have to "agree to disagree" is that you simply are unwilling to accept reality"
lol ok buddy the wii u controller will be cheap thats why up till now nintendo can't come out and tell people whether they will support more than one controller even though they confirmed that its not a technical issue... in fact i'll ask you why do you think they are relunctant to provide more details on support for more controllers? its not a tech issue, you believe its not the price therefore what? i'lll very interested to see what you think it is
btw reality for each person is determined by their knowledge to a certain extent and to my knowledge current controllers retail for $50 - $60 without the aforementioned features therefore logically i come to the conclusion that i have... its not about me "unwilling to accept"
i don't think that if this controller could retail for $80 that nintendo would be so hesitant to announce support for multiple controllers but thats my opinion