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Did Sony Fail The Playstation 3.

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maximus22 on 13 July 2011

No Sony didn't fail the PS3; they just took their time loving it tender.



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Icey7 on 13 July 2011

To simply answer the question I would say yes.
Sony's strategy with the PS3 was simply wrong IMO.

There are several key factors:

Time to market: I don't think Sony were late, it's just than Microsoft pulled out the stops (cut corners) to get a one year advantage.

Price: As with many others here I agree that the initial price point was too high - this in turn would lead people looking to upgrade to buy a 360 instead. Whilst I do think BluRay was the right choice, the card readers and 4 x USB were overkill.

Cell CPU: A very impressive CPU for raw performance but I don't believe that makes it a good CPU for a games console. Not only did this impact the price of the PS3 but also the many complaints on the difficulty of cross-compiling games and hence 3rd party support.

RAM: 256MB + 256MB appears to have been a bad decision. Either a single 512MB addressable by both GPU and CPU or since they were happy to over spec 512MB + 512MB would have been nice.

Backwards Compatibility: If cost effective then either have it from the start and make sure ALL territories get it! Or don't have it at all.



homer on 13 July 2011
snakenobi said:
homer said:
snakenobi said:
homer said:
snakenobi said:
if it would have launched at $399 the gaming world would have been completely different today

Wii would have never taken off


Nah. Wii still would have raped the competition. It would have sold better WW for sure, but I actually wouldn't be surprised if the 360 still would have beaten it at that price point in the US.


another brand name doesn't matter guy


Never said it doesn't matter, I just think you overestimate the average consumer's loyalty to plastic.

i didn't

thats why i said sony needed to launch it at $399

 

that was within consumer reach and would have done the deal.

Even at that price, I think the wii would still have won.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 13 July 2011
Icey7 said:
To simply answer the question I would say yes.
Sony's strategy with the PS3 was simply wrong IMO.

There are several key factors:

Time to market: I don't think Sony were late, it's just than Microsoft pulled out the stops (cut corners) to get a one year advantage.

Price: As with many others here I agree that the initial price point was too high - this in turn would lead people looking to upgrade to buy a 360 instead. Whilst I do think BluRay was the right choice, the card readers and 4 x USB were overkill.

Cell CPU: A very impressive CPU for raw performance but I don't believe that makes it a good CPU for a games console. Not only did this impact the price of the PS3 but also the many complaints on the difficulty of cross-compiling games and hence 3rd party support.

RAM: 256MB + 256MB appears to have been a bad decision. Either a single 512MB addressable by both GPU and CPU or since they were happy to over spec 512MB + 512MB would have been nice.

Backwards Compatibility: If cost effective then either have it from the start and make sure ALL territories get it! Or don't have it at all.

im stealing this post cause its so full of win.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 14 July 2011
homer said:
enditall727 said:
ThePS3News said:
Jay520 said:
Quick question:

If Sony lost monies with each PS3 sold, wouldn't the PS3 be further in the hole if they sold more consoles?


You sir, just proved a quick and valid point.

Anyways From what i know right now, Sony has been making money off the PS3 since they first released the Slim model back in August of 2009.  :)


no.

ps3 didn't start to profit sony until around april-august 2010

and as far as like november 2010 sony was only in the red(loss) with PlayStation Network. they said that they wouldn't be in the green(profit) with psn until 2011(aka until the current psn plus user's AT THAT TIME renewed their subscription's in 2011)

Please provide a link to this if possible, because I distinctly remember Sony profiting off of the slim. I think you may be confused.

What he wrote is partially true and partially wrong: according to cost estimates, like iSuppli ones, in October 2009 PS3 was still losing a few tens $ in USA, but, due to pricing, already breaking even or even profiting a few $ in EU. During Spring 2010 it should have broken even in USA, if components cost followed the usual reduction with time.



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jacoboram126 on 14 July 2011

no I dont think its a faliure at all I love my ps3 the exlusive games are much better than any off xbox games.



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Crazymann on 15 July 2011
snakenobi said:
FinalEvangelion said:
snakenobi said:
if it would have launched at $399 the gaming world would have been completely different today

Xbox 360 would have never taken off


Fixed it for you.  Wii would have still had its blue ocean market no matter what.  But I think less people would have turned to the Xbox 360 had the launch price been the same as the 360 because more would have gone from the PS2 to PS3, naturally.  In America, I think the 360 and PS3 would have been equal because of the popularity of shooters (or the 360 still slightly ahead).  But in the rest of the world, the 360 would have had even less of a presence.

wii would have had the innovation market but if you think that brand name doesn't matter when PLAYSTATION was the biggest thing in gaming by far back then

Wii would have picked yp by nowhere near the way it did

 

its like Android,Nokia keep taking out better things but APPLE still beats them

I just wanted to point this out...

http://www.businessinsider.com/android-iphone-market-share-2011-4

Droid is doing very well for itself.  As I am pro-Google/anti-Apple, this is good news to me.  However, that is only US data.  Still, Droid is a worldwide phenomenon, so I hope it will hold true there.

OT, again... NO Sony did not fail the PS3.



snakenobi on 16 July 2011
Crazymann said:
snakenobi said:
FinalEvangelion said:
snakenobi said:
if it would have launched at $399 the gaming world would have been completely different today

Xbox 360 would have never taken off


Fixed it for you.  Wii would have still had its blue ocean market no matter what.  But I think less people would have turned to the Xbox 360 had the launch price been the same as the 360 because more would have gone from the PS2 to PS3, naturally.  In America, I think the 360 and PS3 would have been equal because of the popularity of shooters (or the 360 still slightly ahead).  But in the rest of the world, the 360 would have had even less of a presence.

wii would have had the innovation market but if you think that brand name doesn't matter when PLAYSTATION was the biggest thing in gaming by far back then

Wii would have picked yp by nowhere near the way it did

 

its like Android,Nokia keep taking out better things but APPLE still beats them

I just wanted to point this out...

http://www.businessinsider.com/android-iphone-market-share-2011-4

Droid is doing very well for itself.  As I am pro-Google/anti-Apple, this is good news to me.  However, that is only US data.  Still, Droid is a worldwide phenomenon, so I hope it will hold true there.

OT, again... NO Sony did not fail the PS3.

android doesn't comprise of one brand but plenty and all of the biggest in phone industry except nokia,it is destined to do more

even then since FEB this year Android's increase in US was halted after Verizon iPhone launch



snakenobi on 16 July 2011
homer said:
snakenobi said:
homer said:
snakenobi said:
homer said:
snakenobi said:
if it would have launched at $399 the gaming world would have been completely different today

Wii would have never taken off


Nah. Wii still would have raped the competition. It would have sold better WW for sure, but I actually wouldn't be surprised if the 360 still would have beaten it at that price point in the US.


another brand name doesn't matter guy


Never said it doesn't matter, I just think you overestimate the average consumer's loyalty to plastic.

i didn't

thats why i said sony needed to launch it at $399

 

that was within consumer reach and would have done the deal.

Even at that price, I think the wii would still have won.

if we go by your way

VITA should comfortably outsell 3DS isn't it....lol